Re: [mythtv-users] Guide data setup for mixed ATSC/QAM NTSC backend? Multiple xmltv feeds needed?

2006-01-30 Thread Todd Ignasiak
On 1/29/06, Daniel Kristjansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 14:19 -0500, Michael T. Dean wrote: On 01/29/2006 01:59 PM, Todd Ignasiak wrote:  I am trying to clean up my MythTV configuration a bit.Part of that  effort is to use a single Zap2it / xmltv guide account, so I can deal
 You have two Myth video sources, one for SDTV and one for HDTV channels?What most users do is set up several listings on the same zap2it accountwith slightly different zip codes. So if your neighborhood is in 10023,
you can use the neighboring neighborhoods 10022, 10024, etc foradditional listings, since you probably get the same OTA/Cable signalsas your immediate neighbors.Thanks for the reply. I didn't realize that zap2it/xmltv supported multiple listings per account. I added a new listing for the few digital channels, and I think that should be good. Zap2it had seperate listings for Comcast Cable  Comcast Digital, so I didn't need to use another zip code.
The analog channels worked great with the xmltv listings. mythfill database automatically found the data for the right channels, since there is no ambiguity in the frequency / channel number.The digital / HD channels were not as easy, the Comcast channel numbers are in the 700's, but the actual channel frequencies are 79, 116, 117 (two HD channels per QAM channel). The scan showed channels like 2#1 and 2#2, and for one channel it picked up the PSIP data and used the virtual channel numbers. So, I ended up with one set of channels from the scan, and one set from xmltv, each with partial data. I edited the mysql database by hand to make sure all channels had the correct xmltvid, mplexid, atscsrcid, etc. But, I'm sure there must be an easier way.

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[mythtv-users] Guide data setup for mixed ATSC/QAM NTSC backend? Multiple xmltv feeds needed?

2006-01-29 Thread Todd Ignasiak
I am trying to clean up my MythTV configuration a bit. Part of that effort is to use a single Zap2it / xmltv guide account, so I can deal with the expiration less frequently (with two, it seems like it's always expiring). I have four tuners, all hooked to my cable TV connection. The two SD tuners (PVR-500 card) can record all the analog channels (2-63). The two ATSC/QAM tuners can record the handful of HD channels (79,116,117; which breaks out into five visible HD channels), and cannot do SD (at least not as I have it set up. I wouldn't want them to do SD anyway, as they don't have MPEG encoders.)
But, with my config now, it seems that MythTV doesn't know the difference between the channel types, and tries to record SD with the HD tuner, and HD with the SD tuner. I have the TV format set to ATSC on my HD channels, and I was hoping that would allow MythTV to associate those channels with the HD capable tuners. 
I'm sure others have this same setup. What is the recommended best practice for associating channels/guide data with the best tuner card? Must I go back to my config with two guide sources, each limited to the relevant stations the tuners can receive?
Thanks for any input.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Guide data setup for mixed ATSC/QAM NTSC backend? Multiple xmltv feeds needed?

2006-01-29 Thread Michael T. Dean
On 01/29/2006 01:59 PM, Todd Ignasiak wrote:
 I am trying to clean up my MythTV configuration a bit.  Part of that 
 effort is to use a single Zap2it / xmltv guide account, so I can deal 
 with the expiration less frequently (with two, it seems like it's 
 always expiring).  I have four tuners, all hooked to my cable TV 
 connection.  The two SD tuners (PVR-500 card) can record all the 
 analog channels (2-63).  The two ATSC/QAM tuners can record the 
 handful of HD channels (79,116,117;  which breaks out into five 
 visible HD channels), and cannot do SD (at least not as I have it set 
 up.  I wouldn't want them to do SD anyway, as they don't have MPEG 
 encoders.)

 But, with my config now, it seems that MythTV doesn't know the 
 difference between the channel types, and tries to record SD with the 
 HD tuner, and HD with the SD tuner.  I have the TV format set to ATSC 
 on my HD channels, and I was hoping that would allow MythTV to 
 associate those channels with the HD capable tuners. 

 I'm sure others have this same setup.  What is the recommended best 
 practice for associating channels/guide data with the best tuner 
 card?   Must I go back to my config with two guide sources, each 
 limited to the relevant stations the tuners can receive?

You have two Myth video sources, one for SDTV and one for HDTV channels?

Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] Guide data setup for mixed ATSC/QAM NTSC backend? Multiple xmltv feeds needed?

2006-01-29 Thread Daniel Kristjansson
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 14:19 -0500, Michael T. Dean wrote:
 On 01/29/2006 01:59 PM, Todd Ignasiak wrote:
  I am trying to clean up my MythTV configuration a bit.  Part of that 
  effort is to use a single Zap2it / xmltv guide account, so I can deal 
 You have two Myth video sources, one for SDTV and one for HDTV channels?

What most users do is set up several listings on the same zap2it account
with slightly different zip codes. So if your neighborhood is in 10023,
you can use the neighboring neighborhoods 10022, 10024, etc for
additional listings, since you probably get the same OTA/Cable signals
as your immediate neighbors.

-- Daniel

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Re: [mythtv-users] Guide data setup for mixed ATSC/QAM NTSC backend? Multiple xmltv feeds needed?

2006-01-29 Thread Chad
On 1/29/06, Daniel Kristjansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 14:19 -0500, Michael T. Dean wrote:
  On 01/29/2006 01:59 PM, Todd Ignasiak wrote:
   I am trying to clean up my MythTV configuration a bit.  Part of that
   effort is to use a single Zap2it / xmltv guide account, so I can deal
  You have two Myth video sources, one for SDTV and one for HDTV channels?

 What most users do is set up several listings on the same zap2it account
 with slightly different zip codes. So if your neighborhood is in 10023,
 you can use the neighboring neighborhoods 10022, 10024, etc for
 additional listings, since you probably get the same OTA/Cable signals
 as your immediate neighbors.

 -- Daniel

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Hoping that I don't hijack this thread too much:

What about the option for TV Format where ATSC and NTSC appears? 
I've got one big, new HDTV and the rest of my TV's are all old school
32 CRT's...

Chad
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Re: [mythtv-users] Guide data setup for mixed ATSC/QAM NTSC backend? Multiple xmltv feeds needed?

2006-01-29 Thread Daniel Kristjansson
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 19:40 -0700, Chad wrote:
 On 1/29/06, Daniel Kristjansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What about the option for TV Format where ATSC and NTSC appears? 
 I've got one big, new HDTV and the rest of my TV's are all old school
 32 CRT's...

It won't work, MythTV has no idea if a capture card can only do ATSC
or NTSC. If a source is connected to a card input MythTV assumes that
input can get all the channels listed in that source. If it is a digital
card it will realize that it can't receive that channel when you (or
the scheduler) tune to the channel, but if it is an analog card it will
gladly record static.

-- Daniel

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