Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 10:58:34AM -0500, Travis Osterman wrote: > I've been using Myth on my dedicated fc1 box for roughly one year now > and have only wonderful things to say. During the holidays I am > planning on performing some hardware upgrades to my system and am will > be installing gentoo on my Myth box. I haven't ventured far in the > relm of window managers (I prefer gnome myself) so I was looking for a > recommendation on a lightweight wm that would offer a slight increase > in performance from KDE. > > I've seen blackbox and fvwm mentioned in the mythtv.org howto and > would appreciate any more information whether one is preferrable or if > there are other undocumented alternatives. Thank you all for a > wonderful project and community. I use fvwm2 on Mandrake 10.1 with a custom config file and I am very happy with it. I use Mandrake's autologin setup to automatically log the mythtv user in when X starts. I then have a custom .fvwm2rc file that starts myth full screen. Cheers Scott Petersen Place the following file in ~mythtv/.fvwm/.fvwm2rc start of .fvwm2rc # Submitted by Scott Elliott Style myth* NoTitle, NoHandles, Sticky, WindowListSkip, SloppyFocus, GrabFocus, BorderWidth 0 # Changes by Scott Petersen #set the desk top size in units of physical screen size DeskTopSize 1X1 # Stuff to do at start-up # Start mythfrontend # Start IRexec so we can start and stop mythfrontend from the remote. Function "StartFunction" Exec exec /usr/bin/mythfrontend Exec exec /usr/bin/irexec --daemon ~/.mythtv/lircrc EndFunction Function "RestartFunction" Exec"I" exec /usr/bin/mythfrontend Exec"I" exec /usr/bin/irexec --daemon ~/.mythtv/lircrc EndFunction # Starts mythfrontend from the keyboard using F1 Key F1 R A exec /usr/bin/mythfrontend ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
> > I have been using ratpoison for about a week and there's one annoying > thing I can't seem to fix. There is a small blue line on the right > side and > the top of the image. I tried adjusting the overscan and the position > of the > window with no luck. Is there some setting, either in MYth or > Ratpoinson > I'm missing? I could be wrong but it may be a window border. Try dropping the following line: defborder 0 in your .ratpoisonrc (~/mythtv/.ratpoisonrc) and restart gdm and see if that works. ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
I've seen blackbox and fvwm mentioned in the mythtv.org howto and would appreciate any more information whether one is preferrable or if there are other undocumented alternatives. Thank you all for a wonderful project and community. I like fluxbox a lot. Much faster to start than KDE or Gnome, faster running. -- Milos Prudek _ Most websites are confused chintzy gaudy conflicting tacky unpleasant... unusable. Learn how usable YOUR website is! http://www.spoxdesign.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
I think I am missing something here, why is xrandr important? If you're using HDTV, you need xrandr to display 1080i and 720p natively. Otherwise, you have to scale one to the other. I could probably also be useful if you use different recording profiles for SDTV. If you were to cook up a 480x480, 640x480, and 720x480 modeline, for instance... no scaling necessary for anything. Alas, my mythtv box is still running RH9 with XFree86... no xrandr there until I redo it. -Cory * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 13:16, Darren Boyd wrote: > I'm using Ratpoison with much success. Myth is able to use the 'window > size' and 'window position' configuration properties with Ratpoison, > which never seemed to work in KDE. Also, I could never get KDE to save > the window settings for mythfrontend so I had to manually turn off the > borders every restart. > > I think I am missing something here, why is xrandr important? If you're using HDTV, you need xrandr to display 1080i and 720p natively. Otherwise, you have to scale one to the other. --PC ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
I'm using Ratpoison with much success. Myth is able to use the 'window size' and 'window position' configuration properties with Ratpoison, which never seemed to work in KDE. Also, I could never get KDE to save the window settings for mythfrontend so I had to manually turn off the borders every restart. I think I am missing something here, why is xrandr important? John Patrick Poet wrote: On Tue, 7 Dec 2004, Preston Crow wrote: >> On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 11:29, John Patrick Poet wrote: >>> WMI is another good choice. It is designed to be used without a mouse, although a mouse can be used. For example, [snip] The reason I use it over ratpoison, is that it handles xrandr correctly. http://wmi.modprobe.de/ I'm using WMI for the same xrandr reason, but I still haven't figured out how to stop it from opening an xterm with the man page every time it starts up. And I thought splash screens were bad. I seem to remember just `Q'uiting out of the help, then exiting that xterm. The next time I brought up the system, it did not show. I am not running the latest, greatest version, however. ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004, Preston Crow wrote: > On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 11:29, John Patrick Poet wrote: > > WMI is another good choice. It is designed to be used without a mouse, > > although a mouse can be used. For example, > > > > To create a new xterm: > > > > alt-i xt > > > > To quit: > > > > atl-i q > > > > The reason I use it over ratpoison, is that it handles xrandr correctly. > > > > http://wmi.modprobe.de/ > > I'm using WMI for the same xrandr reason, but I still haven't figured > out how to stop it from opening an xterm with the man page every time it > starts up. And I thought splash screens were bad. > > --PC I seem to remember just `Q'uiting out of the help, then exiting that xterm. The next time I brought up the system, it did not show. I am not running the latest, greatest version, however. John ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:13:29 -0600 (CST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:58:34 -0500, Travis Osterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > ... I was looking for a > > > recommendation on a lightweight wm that would offer a slight increase > > > in performance from KDE. > > Why are you concerned about window managers? Myth doesn't need one. That's not true at all. Without a windowmanager you can run into focus issues when using MythVideo and MythGame. ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
I'm using the most lightweight one of all: none! I'm running gentoo and have the following in my inittab: (on line actually) c7:45:respawn:/bin/su adam -l -c /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit /usr/local/bin/mythfrontend This automatically restarts if X or mythfrontend dies. If I need to do anything but run mythfrontend, I do it from an ssh session, or if that's not working, in runlevel 2. On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 10:58 -0500, Travis Osterman wrote: > I've been using Myth on my dedicated fc1 box for roughly one year now > and have only wonderful things to say. During the holidays I am > planning on performing some hardware upgrades to my system and am will > be installing gentoo on my Myth box. I haven't ventured far in the > relm of window managers (I prefer gnome myself) so I was looking for a > recommendation on a lightweight wm that would offer a slight increase > in performance from KDE. > > I've seen blackbox and fvwm mentioned in the mythtv.org howto and > would appreciate any more information whether one is preferrable or if > there are other undocumented alternatives. Thank you all for a > wonderful project and community. > > -- Travis > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users -- Adam Felson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
Haven't tried anythign other than KDE but would like to one day. I saw this - http://knoppmythwiki.homelinux.org/index.php?page=Change+to+evilwm - which might be of interest as another alternative. Have fun over the hols - sounds a great way to pass the time! I also back up your commenst about what a great community forum this is. Regards, Phill From: Travis Osterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Discussion about mythtv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:58:34 -0500 I've been using Myth on my dedicated fc1 box for roughly one year now and have only wonderful things to say. During the holidays I am planning on performing some hardware upgrades to my system and am will be installing gentoo on my Myth box. I haven't ventured far in the relm of window managers (I prefer gnome myself) so I was looking for a recommendation on a lightweight wm that would offer a slight increase in performance from KDE. I've seen blackbox and fvwm mentioned in the mythtv.org howto and would appreciate any more information whether one is preferrable or if there are other undocumented alternatives. Thank you all for a wonderful project and community. -- Travis ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
Travis Osterman wrote: Thanks to all for the quick responses. Here's the list of recommendations that were posted. I will probably start with the smallest and work my way up until I find one that fits the bill. ratpoison, fluxbox,WMI, icewm, xfce, fvwm, flwm I use pekwm for my regular set-up and it works fine with MythTV as well. ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote: I have been using ratpoison for about a week and there's one annoying thing I can't seem to fix. There is a small blue line on the right side and the top of the image. I tried adjusting the overscan and the position of the window with no luck. Is there some setting, either in MYth or Ratpoinson I'm missing? Is this the Xv overlay issue that affects the most recent nvidia driver? It's been mentioned a few times on the nvnews forums. You can sort of fix it if that is the issue by running xvattr to set the overlay colour to black, which hides it. Neil ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
Travis Osterman wrote: Thanks to all for the quick responses. Here's the list of recommendations that were posted. I will probably start with the smallest and work my way up until I find one that fits the bill. ratpoison, fluxbox,WMI, icewm, xfce, fvwm, flwm I'm using blackbox quite successfully. It's nice and configurable for keypress events to map to wm events with the bbkeys app. Neil ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
> On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:58:34 -0500, Travis Osterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... I was looking for a > > recommendation on a lightweight wm that would offer a slight increase > > in performance from KDE. Why are you concerned about window managers? Myth doesn't need one. > > > > I've seen blackbox and fvwm mentioned in the mythtv.org howto and > > would appreciate any more information whether one is preferrable or if > > there are other undocumented alternatives. Thank you all for a > > wonderful project and community. > > There are a *ton* of windowmanagers. They all work. > > http://xwinman.org/ provides a good list of options. > > Most Linux systems *should* already have twm and mwm on them. twm is > about as lightweight as you can get - it also has almost no > "functionality" other than launch an xterm and exit. > > A few choices I would consider that provide a good balance between > lightweight and usability: > - icewm > - xfce > - fvwm with fvwm-themes (using "windows XP-like" theme) > - flwm WindowMaker is also a nice mix of performance versus features. [deletia] ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
I'm actually using Windowmaker, haven't had any issues at all. Followed the directions in the link from Jarod's page, the only new thing to add to the directions is to add the dag apt to /etc/apt/sources.list -- Jim Gifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
Thanks to all for the quick responses. Here's the list of recommendations that were posted. I will probably start with the smallest and work my way up until I find one that fits the bill. ratpoison, fluxbox,WMI, icewm, xfce, fvwm, flwm -- Travis ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
To put it in your ratpoison config, put the commands in .ratpoisonrc (I think that's what the filename is). Problems with overscan (which is awful on the Epia, not so bad on the PVR-350) is really something that must be fixed in the driver. Hacks like padding can only get you so far. My problem: On the PVR-350, I was able to get the MythTV GUI to work fine with ratpoison by changing the GUI X/Y size and positions. TV-out was working perfectly (because the X server is different than the TV output). However, on my Epia, such a fix doesn't work very well, because if I add default padding to my windows, then my LiveTV/recorded shows are cut off at the bottom in attempting to line up the top. The problem with the Epias in this case is that the scaling needs to be fixed (the overscan), so that my picture is smaller. Therefore, YMMV. -- Joe --- Cory Papenfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have been using ratpoison for about a week and > there's one annoying > > thing I can't seem to fix. There is a small blue > line on the right > > side and > > the top of the image. I tried adjusting the > overscan and the position > > of the > > window with no luck. Is there some setting, > either in MYth or > > Ratpoinson > > I'm missing? > > > > Other than that, I like it. ctrl-t is my friend. > > > > Paul > > > OK, I haven't been *completely* satisfied with > ratpoison. My > tvout setup doesn't do overscan/underscan > adjustments, so when an xterm is > fullscreen I can't see the bottom line. I've gotten > around it by using > the 'defpadding' option in ratpoison. Haven't > figured out how to get it > in the .config for it, but I do this when I need to > see the bottom of the > screen: > > ctrl-t, : > defpadding 20 20 20 20 > > I think it makes 'fullscreen' have 20 pixels less > all the way around. > > -Cory > > > * > * Cory Papenfuss * > * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate > student * > * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State > University* > * > > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:58:34 -0500, Travis Osterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... I was looking for a > recommendation on a lightweight wm that would offer a slight increase > in performance from KDE. > > I've seen blackbox and fvwm mentioned in the mythtv.org howto and > would appreciate any more information whether one is preferrable or if > there are other undocumented alternatives. Thank you all for a > wonderful project and community. There are a *ton* of windowmanagers. They all work. http://xwinman.org/ provides a good list of options. Most Linux systems *should* already have twm and mwm on them. twm is about as lightweight as you can get - it also has almost no "functionality" other than launch an xterm and exit. A few choices I would consider that provide a good balance between lightweight and usability: - icewm - xfce - fvwm with fvwm-themes (using "windows XP-like" theme) - flwm ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
I have been using ratpoison for about a week and there's one annoying thing I can't seem to fix. There is a small blue line on the right side and the top of the image. I tried adjusting the overscan and the position of the window with no luck. Is there some setting, either in MYth or Ratpoinson I'm missing? Other than that, I like it. ctrl-t is my friend. Paul OK, I haven't been *completely* satisfied with ratpoison. My tvout setup doesn't do overscan/underscan adjustments, so when an xterm is fullscreen I can't see the bottom line. I've gotten around it by using the 'defpadding' option in ratpoison. Haven't figured out how to get it in the .config for it, but I do this when I need to see the bottom of the screen: ctrl-t, : defpadding 20 20 20 20 I think it makes 'fullscreen' have 20 pixels less all the way around. -Cory * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 11:29, John Patrick Poet wrote: > WMI is another good choice. It is designed to be used without a mouse, > although a mouse can be used. For example, > > To create a new xterm: > > alt-i xt > > To quit: > > atl-i q > > The reason I use it over ratpoison, is that it handles xrandr correctly. > > http://wmi.modprobe.de/ I'm using WMI for the same xrandr reason, but I still haven't figured out how to stop it from opening an xterm with the man page every time it starts up. And I thought splash screens were bad. --PC ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/7/2004 11:17:52 AM >>> >On Tue, 7 Dec 2004, Travis Osterman wrote: > >> I've been using Myth on my dedicated fc1 box for roughly one year now >> and have only wonderful things to say. During the holidays I am >> planning on performing some hardware upgrades to my system and am will >> be installing gentoo on my Myth box. I haven't ventured far in the >> relm of window managers (I prefer gnome myself) so I was looking for a >> recommendation on a lightweight wm that would offer a slight increase >> in performance from KDE. >> >> I've seen blackbox and fvwm mentioned in the mythtv.org howto and >> would appreciate any more information whether one is preferrable or if >> there are other undocumented alternatives. Thank you all for a >> wonderful project and community. >> >> -- Travis >> > Mine is more or less a "settup box," so I don't have a mouse >connected to it. I've found that ratpoision is pretty good to keep things >lightweight while still being able to get at a terminal or run other >things at the same time. If you know how to use 'screen' from the >console, 'ratpoison' works the same way (ctrl-t, [0123] to switch between >window [0123], etc). It automatically fullscreens everything and puts >focus on the top one. > >-Cory I have been using ratpoison for about a week and there's one annoying thing I can't seem to fix. There is a small blue line on the right side and the top of the image. I tried adjusting the overscan and the position of the window with no luck. Is there some setting, either in MYth or Ratpoinson I'm missing? Other than that, I like it. ctrl-t is my friend. Paul ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
Something between gnome and ratpoision that might suit you is xfce4. I use it for my mythbox (and my desktop incidentally) and have found it a pretty good performance/feature compromise. ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004, Cory Papenfuss wrote: > On Tue, 7 Dec 2004, Travis Osterman wrote: > > > I've been using Myth on my dedicated fc1 box for roughly one year now > > and have only wonderful things to say. During the holidays I am > > planning on performing some hardware upgrades to my system and am will > > be installing gentoo on my Myth box. I haven't ventured far in the > > relm of window managers (I prefer gnome myself) so I was looking for a > > recommendation on a lightweight wm that would offer a slight increase > > in performance from KDE. > > > > I've seen blackbox and fvwm mentioned in the mythtv.org howto and > > would appreciate any more information whether one is preferrable or if > > there are other undocumented alternatives. Thank you all for a > > wonderful project and community. > > > > -- Travis > > > Mine is more or less a "settup box," so I don't have a mouse > connected to it. I've found that ratpoision is pretty good to keep things > lightweight while still being able to get at a terminal or run other > things at the same time. If you know how to use 'screen' from the > console, 'ratpoison' works the same way (ctrl-t, [0123] to switch between > window [0123], etc). It automatically fullscreens everything and puts > focus on the top one. > > -Cory > WMI is another good choice. It is designed to be used without a mouse, although a mouse can be used. For example, To create a new xterm: alt-i xt To quit: atl-i q The reason I use it over ratpoison, is that it handles xrandr correctly. http://wmi.modprobe.de/ John ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004, Travis Osterman wrote: I've been using Myth on my dedicated fc1 box for roughly one year now and have only wonderful things to say. During the holidays I am planning on performing some hardware upgrades to my system and am will be installing gentoo on my Myth box. I haven't ventured far in the relm of window managers (I prefer gnome myself) so I was looking for a recommendation on a lightweight wm that would offer a slight increase in performance from KDE. I've seen blackbox and fvwm mentioned in the mythtv.org howto and would appreciate any more information whether one is preferrable or if there are other undocumented alternatives. Thank you all for a wonderful project and community. -- Travis Mine is more or less a "settup box," so I don't have a mouse connected to it. I've found that ratpoision is pretty good to keep things lightweight while still being able to get at a terminal or run other things at the same time. If you know how to use 'screen' from the console, 'ratpoison' works the same way (ctrl-t, [0123] to switch between window [0123], etc). It automatically fullscreens everything and puts focus on the top one. -Cory * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
Travis Osterman wrote: I've been using Myth on my dedicated fc1 box for roughly one year now and have only wonderful things to say. During the holidays I am planning on performing some hardware upgrades to my system and am will be installing gentoo on my Myth box. I haven't ventured far in the relm of window managers (I prefer gnome myself) so I was looking for a recommendation on a lightweight wm that would offer a slight increase in performance from KDE. I've seen blackbox and fvwm mentioned in the mythtv.org howto and would appreciate any more information whether one is preferrable or if there are other undocumented alternatives. Thank you all for a wonderful project and community. Travis, take a look at ratpoison. It seems perfect for mythtv... Search the mailing list archives, it has been discussed several times... ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Lightweight window manager recommendation
I've been using Myth on my dedicated fc1 box for roughly one year now and have only wonderful things to say. During the holidays I am planning on performing some hardware upgrades to my system and am will be installing gentoo on my Myth box. I haven't ventured far in the relm of window managers (I prefer gnome myself) so I was looking for a recommendation on a lightweight wm that would offer a slight increase in performance from KDE. I've seen blackbox and fvwm mentioned in the mythtv.org howto and would appreciate any more information whether one is preferrable or if there are other undocumented alternatives. Thank you all for a wonderful project and community. -- Travis ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
