Re: [mythtv-users] Manual record/stop
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 16:11:21 -0600 Lane Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 16:39:46 -0500, Joseph A. Caputo > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > There used to be a feature called "Instant Recording", IIRC, that > > was meant for just this purpose. It was disabled because it was > > broken and the original author did not maintain it. > > When you mention the "Instant Recording" feature, are you talking > about the feature that let you press 'R' while watching Live TV to > record? As I mentioned earlier in this thread, that feature is > somewhat similar to what I'm talking about, but not the same thing. No, this (IIRC), was a screen that was pretty much intended to do what you're looking for -- select a channel and say "start recording... now, for X minutes". It was removed in 0.12. -JAC ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Manual record/stop
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 16:39:46 -0500, Joseph A. Caputo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 01 December 2004 16:16, Lane Schwartz wrote: > > Hmmm Anyone know what the best method is for putting in a feature > > request? (Other than implementing it myself :) Is it OK to send > > messages of that sort to the myth-dev list? > > No, please *don't* send a feature request to the -dev list (unless it's > accompanied by a patch implementing the feature). The only result > would be that you'd be made fun of on the -dev IRC channel :-) > > There really is no method for requesting a feature. Many of the > developers read the -users list; hope that one of them has a similar > itch & decides to scratch it. > > > I think you're right - if someone was familiar with the code, I > > suspect that adding a mode like this wouldn't be too hard. Then > > again, I haven't looked at the code :} > > There used to be a feature called "Instant Recording", IIRC, that was > meant for just this purpose. It was disabled because it was broken and > the original author did not maintain it. Thanks for the advice - that's why I asked whether it was appropriate to send to -dev. When you mention the "Instant Recording" feature, are you talking about the feature that let you press 'R' while watching Live TV to record? As I mentioned earlier in this thread, that feature is somewhat similar to what I'm talking about, but not the same thing. I guess if I want this bad enough I'll be sitting down with the code soon. I need *some* way to deal with my stack of home video tapes. Just have to decide what the best way is. -- "No, we've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11." -- George W. Bush, 17 Sept 2003 ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Manual record/stop
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 16:16, Lane Schwartz wrote: > Hmmm Anyone know what the best method is for putting in a feature > request? (Other than implementing it myself :) Is it OK to send > messages of that sort to the myth-dev list? No, please *don't* send a feature request to the -dev list (unless it's accompanied by a patch implementing the feature). The only result would be that you'd be made fun of on the -dev IRC channel :-) There really is no method for requesting a feature. Many of the developers read the -users list; hope that one of them has a similar itch & decides to scratch it. > I think you're right - if someone was familiar with the code, I > suspect that adding a mode like this wouldn't be too hard. Then > again, I haven't looked at the code :} There used to be a feature called "Instant Recording", IIRC, that was meant for just this purpose. It was disabled because it was broken and the original author did not maintain it. -JAC ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Manual record/stop
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 15:56:32 -0500, Matt Vollmar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lane Schwartz wrote: > >I agreed that current Myth functionality is not well suited to copying > >videos from a VCR. > > > >I have several dozen old home movies to archive to DVD, and I'm still > >trying to come up with a good way of doing this. > > > > > >Ideally, I'd like to see a "VHS dub" mode in Myth. In this mode, you > >could configure Myth to record for X minutes (ex 120 mins), then hit a > >key or button to "begin recording now". > > > >This is different from recording Live TV because you can set an end > >time. It is different from the manual recording mode because you can > >press the "begin recording now" key as you press play on the VCR; in > >manual mode you have to set the time for the start of the recording, > >and then try to press play at the exact time you have scheduled - this > >is not a trivial difference. > > > >I'd like to try implementing this myself, and I may try later this > >month when I'm on vacation. But my C++ skills are a bit rusty... so > >we'll see. > > > >Other advanced functions that I think would be very useful in a "VCR > >dub" mode would be "blank screen detection." A lot of my home videos > >don't use the whole tape. Consequently, if I dub the whole tape onto > >the computer, I often end up with 10-20 minutes of blank, blue screen > >at the end of the tape. It would be great if this could be marked > >automatically, in a similar manner to how commercials are detected. > > > >Anyway, enough daydreaming for now... > > > >Lane > > > > > > > > > This doesn't seem all that difficult to me. You just set the recording > for a few minutes more than the tape length, watch your status of > recording on either MythWeb or in the status screen in Myth. When it > says recording, press play. When it is done, press stop. Then, use the > edit mode to create a cut-list. You can then transcode or do whatever > with it. Of course, I don't have any tapes to put on the computer. > Additionally, seems like the C++ shouldn't be that hard to add a hot key > for it, and have it prompt you at the end for a name, etc. > > I love Myth. > > Matt You're completely right - it is possible now to dub VHS tapes into Myth. I'm just saying it's not as convenient as I think it could be. Part of the reason that I don't like the method that you describe is that it leads to blank blue screen at the beginning of the recording. I use a PVR-250 and record to MPEG2, then do a MPEG2->MPEG2 export using nuvexport. For whatever reason I've sometimes had audio sync issues when I do the nuvexport if I do a commercial cut at the beginning of a recording (but only, it seems, if the recording was a VHS dub). Because of that, the "begin recording now" functionality would be better for me than the timed manual recording. Hmmm Anyone know what the best method is for putting in a feature request? (Other than implementing it myself :) Is it OK to send messages of that sort to the myth-dev list? I think you're right - if someone was familiar with the code, I suspect that adding a mode like this wouldn't be too hard. Then again, I haven't looked at the code :} Lane -- "No, we've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11." -- George W. Bush, 17 Sept 2003 ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Manual record/stop
Lane Schwartz wrote: From: Matthew Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [mythtv-users] Manual record/stop Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:48:00 -0800 (PST) I have a question about Myth's abilities is there the an ability to start and stop recording on command? I ask because I have a number of old VHS tapes I'd like to record over for DVD archiving. However besides trying to hit record at the exact moment I've configured a manual recording session, I can't think of any way to make Myth do it. Though as I write this, considering I have a pvr-350, I suppose I could write directly from the /dev/video to an mpeg file. But it there's a better way to do it I'm curious. On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:53:41 +, Phill Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pressing "R" on the keyboard (or appropriately configured remote control key) is supposed to toggle between record/stop recording when watching live TV. So if the video feed was coming in as the TV feed wouldn't that do it? On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:01:09 -0600, spectro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been wondering about plain old VCR functions too. If you hit R at 9:55 myth will stop recording at 10 because the programming is got stored ends there. It would be cool to have a way to manual schedule from live tv, the way you would do with a VCR (just record this for the next two hours) The problem with using "cat /dev/video0 > tmp/test_capture.mpg" is that I would like to use edit mode to remove commercial breaks. I have a ton of tennis matches on VHS tapes and mythcommflag works great getting the breaks right when I capture these. I agreed that current Myth functionality is not well suited to copying videos from a VCR. I have several dozen old home movies to archive to DVD, and I'm still trying to come up with a good way of doing this. Ideally, I'd like to see a "VHS dub" mode in Myth. In this mode, you could configure Myth to record for X minutes (ex 120 mins), then hit a key or button to "begin recording now". This is different from recording Live TV because you can set an end time. It is different from the manual recording mode because you can press the "begin recording now" key as you press play on the VCR; in manual mode you have to set the time for the start of the recording, and then try to press play at the exact time you have scheduled - this is not a trivial difference. I'd like to try implementing this myself, and I may try later this month when I'm on vacation. But my C++ skills are a bit rusty... so we'll see. Other advanced functions that I think would be very useful in a "VCR dub" mode would be "blank screen detection." A lot of my home videos don't use the whole tape. Consequently, if I dub the whole tape onto the computer, I often end up with 10-20 minutes of blank, blue screen at the end of the tape. It would be great if this could be marked automatically, in a similar manner to how commercials are detected. Anyway, enough daydreaming for now... Lane This doesn't seem all that difficult to me. You just set the recording for a few minutes more than the tape length, watch your status of recording on either MythWeb or in the status screen in Myth. When it says recording, press play. When it is done, press stop. Then, use the edit mode to create a cut-list. You can then transcode or do whatever with it. Of course, I don't have any tapes to put on the computer. Additionally, seems like the C++ shouldn't be that hard to add a hot key for it, and have it prompt you at the end for a name, etc. I love Myth. Matt ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Manual record/stop
> > >From: Matthew Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: [mythtv-users] Manual record/stop > > >Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:48:00 -0800 (PST) > > >I have a question about Myth's abilities is there the an ability to > > >start and stop recording on command? I ask because I have a number of old > > >VHS tapes I'd like to record over for DVD archiving. However besides > > >trying to hit record at the exact moment I've configured a manual > > >recording session, I can't think of any way to make Myth do it. > > > > > >Though as I write this, considering I have a pvr-350, I suppose I could > > >write directly from the /dev/video to an mpeg file. But it there's a > > >better way to do it I'm curious. > On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:53:41 +, Phill Edwards > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pressing "R" on the keyboard (or appropriately configured remote control > > key) is supposed to toggle between record/stop recording when watching live > > TV. So if the video feed was coming in as the TV feed wouldn't that do it? On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:01:09 -0600, spectro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been wondering about plain old VCR functions too. If you hit R at > 9:55 myth will stop recording at 10 because the programming is got > stored ends there. It would be cool to have a way to manual schedule > from live tv, the way you would do with a VCR (just record this for > the next two hours) > > The problem with using "cat /dev/video0 > tmp/test_capture.mpg" is > that I would like to use edit mode to remove commercial breaks. I have > a ton of tennis matches on VHS tapes and mythcommflag works great > getting the breaks right when I capture these. > I agreed that current Myth functionality is not well suited to copying videos from a VCR. I have several dozen old home movies to archive to DVD, and I'm still trying to come up with a good way of doing this. Ideally, I'd like to see a "VHS dub" mode in Myth. In this mode, you could configure Myth to record for X minutes (ex 120 mins), then hit a key or button to "begin recording now". This is different from recording Live TV because you can set an end time. It is different from the manual recording mode because you can press the "begin recording now" key as you press play on the VCR; in manual mode you have to set the time for the start of the recording, and then try to press play at the exact time you have scheduled - this is not a trivial difference. I'd like to try implementing this myself, and I may try later this month when I'm on vacation. But my C++ skills are a bit rusty... so we'll see. Other advanced functions that I think would be very useful in a "VCR dub" mode would be "blank screen detection." A lot of my home videos don't use the whole tape. Consequently, if I dub the whole tape onto the computer, I often end up with 10-20 minutes of blank, blue screen at the end of the tape. It would be great if this could be marked automatically, in a similar manner to how commercials are detected. Anyway, enough daydreaming for now... Lane -- "No, we've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11." -- George W. Bush, 17 Sept 2003 ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
