Re: [mythtv-users] Minimum memory for myth system

2005-06-16 Thread Simon Kenyon
On Wednesday 15 June 2005 22:26, James Stembridge wrote:
> On 6/15/05, Simon Kenyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > i went down to single user and was just running mysql and
> > mythfilldatabase on an epia with 256 and i left it for over 12 hours and
> > it sill didn't finish
>
> You have other problems then. I run an epia/dvb-t based combined
> frontend/backend on 256mb of ram.
>
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will look more into my mysql installation
maybe i did something wrong

thanks for the tip

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Re: [mythtv-users] Minimum memory for myth system

2005-06-16 Thread Simon Kenyon
On Wednesday 15 June 2005 19:08, Egeekial wrote:
> I've never tried it myself, but maybe you should take a loot at
> MythFillEPG. http://www.fotoniq.nl/projects/mythtv/

very good
won't work with the BBC grabber but good to know about

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Re: [mythtv-users] Minimum memory for myth system

2005-06-15 Thread James Stembridge
On 6/15/05, Simon Kenyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i went down to single user and was just running mysql and mythfilldatabase on
> an epia with 256 and i left it for over 12 hours and it sill didn't finish

You have other problems then. I run an epia/dvb-t based combined
frontend/backend on 256mb of ram.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Minimum memory for myth system

2005-06-15 Thread Egeekial

I've never tried it myself, but maybe you should take a loot at MythFillEPG.
http://www.fotoniq.nl/projects/mythtv/

Simon Kenyon wrote:


On Wednesday 15 June 2005 15:00, John Kuhn wrote:
[snip]
 


I think it was mostly apache and mysql sucking up all the ram.. since i
ran mythweb on the same box
   



i went down to single user and was just running mysql and mythfilldatabase on 
an epia with 256 and i left it for over 12 hours and it sill didn't finish


 




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Re: [mythtv-users] Minimum memory for myth system

2005-06-15 Thread Simon Kenyon
On Wednesday 15 June 2005 15:00, John Kuhn wrote:
[snip]
> I think it was mostly apache and mysql sucking up all the ram.. since i
> ran mythweb on the same box

i went down to single user and was just running mysql and mythfilldatabase on 
an epia with 256 and i left it for over 12 hours and it sill didn't finish

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Re: [mythtv-users] Minimum memory for myth system

2005-06-15 Thread John Kuhn

Calvin Harrigan wrote:


John Kuhn wrote:

I had a pvr350 in a 650mhz PIII system with 256 megs of ram.. and it 
swapped alot but all in all never gave me problems.. no glitchs.. I 
was however using the on board decoder..


--John


I have a PVR350 and a pentium < 1Ghz with about 64Megs of memory
running FC3.  This is the second system that I have built and was
trying to go 'ala cheapo.  I am wondering if anyone knows what is the
recommended minimum memory configuration of a myth system.  I know
that everything seems to work until I start watching live TV, that's
when the system seems to want to randomly kill off processes and have
lots of DMA errors.  I am going to attempt to install 512Megs of
memory in tonight and see if the problem goes away.

1.  Anyone with similiar experiences?
2.  Tips to reduce memory consumption would be welcomed.
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Strange, I also have 256 Megs on a combination backend/frontend.  I 
rarely ever touch the swap, typically it will use around 150 Megs of 
ram.  It's an XP1800 with a pvr 250 for capture.  Just seems that you 
shouldn't be swapping too much.

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I think it was mostly apache and mysql sucking up all the ram.. since i 
ran mythweb on the same box


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Re: [mythtv-users] Minimum memory for myth system

2005-06-15 Thread Todd Bailey
I  was running 128 and the os using the swap partition a fait bit of time, 
since memory is/was cheap I upgraded to 512.

But then I was doing other stuff beyond myth as well...



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I have a PVR350 and a pentium < 1Ghz with about 64Megs of memory
running FC3.  This is the second system that I have built and was
trying to go 'ala cheapo.  I am wondering if anyone knows what is the
recommended minimum memory configuration of a myth system.  I know
that everything seems to work until I start watching live TV, that's
when the system seems to want to randomly kill off processes and have
lots of DMA errors.  I am going to attempt to install 512Megs of
memory in tonight and see if the problem goes away.

1.  Anyone with similiar experiences?
2.  Tips to reduce memory consumption would be welcomed.


256MB works fine for me. I have 2 DVB-T tuner cards in my FC3 system
and 512MB of swap.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Minimum memory for myth system

2005-06-15 Thread Phill Edwards
> I have a PVR350 and a pentium < 1Ghz with about 64Megs of memory
> running FC3.  This is the second system that I have built and was
> trying to go 'ala cheapo.  I am wondering if anyone knows what is the
> recommended minimum memory configuration of a myth system.  I know
> that everything seems to work until I start watching live TV, that's
> when the system seems to want to randomly kill off processes and have
> lots of DMA errors.  I am going to attempt to install 512Megs of
> memory in tonight and see if the problem goes away.
> 
> 1.  Anyone with similiar experiences?
> 2.  Tips to reduce memory consumption would be welcomed.

256MB works fine for me. I have 2 DVB-T tuner cards in my FC3 system
and 512MB of swap.

Regards,
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Re: [mythtv-users] Minimum memory for myth system

2005-06-15 Thread Simon Kenyon
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 18:39, Isaac Richards wrote:
> My production myth box only has 256MB of ram as well.  Never had a single
> problem because of it.

i run a shell script from cron which downloads the data from the bbc with 
tv_grab_uk_rt and then feed the file into mythfilldatabase
the download takes a while (because i have lot of channels) but the 
mythfilldatabase churns away for hours and hours and never finishes. i did 
once leave it for 24 hours to see if it would finish (it didn't)
it *is* loading the data into the database but eventually the system starts 
swapping and that kills the throughput

looking at the code, one thing that struck me is that it uses DOM, which in my 
case means it loads the whole XML file (all 22M) into memory and then 
processes it. i have a mind to try using SAX and see if that makes a 
difference. in the meantime, i've ordered a 512M SIMM for the machine.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Minimum memory for myth system

2005-06-14 Thread Alexander Varakin
I used to have 128 MB for headless backend only and it was not enough: I was 
getting bad recordings sometimes. Now I have 320MB and no problems. 


On Tuesday 14 June 2005 14:35, Niels Dybdahl wrote:
> > I am wondering if anyone knows what is the
> > recommended minimum memory configuration of a myth system.
>
> I started with 256 MB RAM, but the backend (0.16) hanged every 5 days.for 
> I then increased to 512 MB and the system has become much more stable
> (backend hangs maybe once per month).
> 0.17 and 0.18 might be more stable.
>
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Re: [mythtv-users] Minimum memory for myth system

2005-06-14 Thread Ian Trider
On 6/14/05, Isaac Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 June 2005 02:25 pm, Calvin Harrigan wrote:
> > Strange, I also have 256 Megs on a combination backend/frontend.  I
> > rarely ever touch the swap, typically it will use around 150 Megs of
> > ram.  It's an XP1800 with a pvr 250 for capture.  Just seems that you
> > shouldn't be swapping too much.
> 
> My production myth box only has 256MB of ram as well.  Never had a single
> problem because of it.

As I said, I only have problems when mythfilldatabase is running, and
when browsing my (rather large -- Antenna/Dish Network/Expressvu)
channel list/looking for alternate airtimes.  I assumed that the
massive MySQL queries were causing MySQL to eat RAM and cause the
kernel swap excessively, but I don't think I've actually checked into
this..

.. I'll try and remember to take a look while it is running someday
and see what's actually going on.

My original message might have not been entirely clear though -- other
than the circumstances I mention above, it runs without a hickup --
and the video (playback) only stutters when mythfilldatabase is
running.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Minimum memory for myth system

2005-06-14 Thread Isaac Richards
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 02:25 pm, Calvin Harrigan wrote:
> Strange, I also have 256 Megs on a combination backend/frontend.  I
> rarely ever touch the swap, typically it will use around 150 Megs of
> ram.  It's an XP1800 with a pvr 250 for capture.  Just seems that you
> shouldn't be swapping too much.

My production myth box only has 256MB of ram as well.  Never had a single 
problem because of it.

Isaac
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Re: [mythtv-users] Minimum memory for myth system

2005-06-14 Thread Niels Dybdahl
> I am wondering if anyone knows what is the
> recommended minimum memory configuration of a myth system. 

I started with 256 MB RAM, but the backend (0.16) hanged every 5 days.
I then increased to 512 MB and the system has become much more stable
(backend hangs maybe once per month).
0.17 and 0.18 might be more stable.

Niels Dybdahl
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Re: [mythtv-users] Minimum memory for myth system

2005-06-14 Thread Calvin Harrigan

John Kuhn wrote:

I had a pvr350 in a 650mhz PIII system with 256 megs of ram.. and it 
swapped alot but all in all never gave me problems.. no glitchs.. I 
was however using the on board decoder..


--John


I have a PVR350 and a pentium < 1Ghz with about 64Megs of memory
running FC3.  This is the second system that I have built and was
trying to go 'ala cheapo.  I am wondering if anyone knows what is the
recommended minimum memory configuration of a myth system.  I know
that everything seems to work until I start watching live TV, that's
when the system seems to want to randomly kill off processes and have
lots of DMA errors.  I am going to attempt to install 512Megs of
memory in tonight and see if the problem goes away.

1.  Anyone with similiar experiences?
2.  Tips to reduce memory consumption would be welcomed.
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Strange, I also have 256 Megs on a combination backend/frontend.  I 
rarely ever touch the swap, typically it will use around 150 Megs of 
ram.  It's an XP1800 with a pvr 250 for capture.  Just seems that you 
shouldn't be swapping too much.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Minimum memory for myth system

2005-06-14 Thread John Kuhn
I had a pvr350 in a 650mhz PIII system with 256 megs of ram.. and it 
swapped alot but all in all never gave me problems.. no glitchs.. I was 
however using the on board decoder..


--John


I have a PVR350 and a pentium < 1Ghz with about 64Megs of memory
running FC3.  This is the second system that I have built and was
trying to go 'ala cheapo.  I am wondering if anyone knows what is the
recommended minimum memory configuration of a myth system.  I know
that everything seems to work until I start watching live TV, that's
when the system seems to want to randomly kill off processes and have
lots of DMA errors.  I am going to attempt to install 512Megs of
memory in tonight and see if the problem goes away.

1.  Anyone with similiar experiences?
2.  Tips to reduce memory consumption would be welcomed.
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[mythtv-users] Minimum memory for myth system

2005-06-14 Thread Monkey Pet
I have a PVR350 and a pentium < 1Ghz with about 64Megs of memory
running FC3.  This is the second system that I have built and was
trying to go 'ala cheapo.  I am wondering if anyone knows what is the
recommended minimum memory configuration of a myth system.  I know
that everything seems to work until I start watching live TV, that's
when the system seems to want to randomly kill off processes and have
lots of DMA errors.  I am going to attempt to install 512Megs of
memory in tonight and see if the problem goes away.

1.  Anyone with similiar experiences?
2.  Tips to reduce memory consumption would be welcomed.
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