Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-04-02 Thread Maverick
> > > I honestly couldn't say if the volume sliders work on either of my nForce2
> > > boards (7NIF2 included, I think I started that whole fad ;-). Both output
> > > their audio to amps, where all my volume control is done. :-)
> >
> > Yeah, I'd say you started it!! I got the 7NIF2 because you had it
> > listed on your site. I've been very happy with it, though, I can't
> > comment on it's TVout or audio, as I'm using a PVR-350 and it's TVout
> > right now. I expect to move to the motherboard's TVout at some point
> > in the future (reason I bought the board), but since I already had the
> > '350, I was familiar with getting it to work and have not gone any
> > further.
> 
> I say that Jarod should be paid for advertisement or at least
> compensated with some hardware. Let's contact a Chaintec rep. ;)

Better yet, I should pay Jarod to setup TVout on my Chaintec... =)

-Kenneth
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-04-01 Thread cythrault
On Apr 1, 2005 8:04 PM, Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I honestly couldn't say if the volume sliders work on either of my nForce2
> > boards (7NIF2 included, I think I started that whole fad ;-). Both output
> > their audio to amps, where all my volume control is done. :-)
> 
> Yeah, I'd say you started it!! I got the 7NIF2 because you had it
> listed on your site. I've been very happy with it, though, I can't
> comment on it's TVout or audio, as I'm using a PVR-350 and it's TVout
> right now. I expect to move to the motherboard's TVout at some point
> in the future (reason I bought the board), but since I already had the
> '350, I was familiar with getting it to work and have not gone any
> further.

I say that Jarod should be paid for advertisement or at least
compensated with some hardware. Let's contact a Chaintec rep. ;)

cyth
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-04-01 Thread Maverick
> > >I've also got the same problem with my 7NIF2...seems like that must be
> > >a prominent issue with this board
> >
> > I just control the volume on my tv.. the only problem is the sound out
> > from the board is a little low for my liking.. other then that it's not
> > a big deal
> 
> I honestly couldn't say if the volume sliders work on either of my nForce2
> boards (7NIF2 included, I think I started that whole fad ;-). Both output
> their audio to amps, where all my volume control is done. :-)

Yeah, I'd say you started it!! I got the 7NIF2 because you had it
listed on your site. I've been very happy with it, though, I can't
comment on it's TVout or audio, as I'm using a PVR-350 and it's TVout
right now. I expect to move to the motherboard's TVout at some point
in the future (reason I bought the board), but since I already had the
'350, I was familiar with getting it to work and have not gone any
further.

Even if the audio slider doesn't work, I doubt it would bother me,
because I use the volume on my TV, not MythTV.

I'm also using KnoppMyth R5A12...

-Kenneth
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-04-01 Thread Ryan A. Carris
On Mar 31, 2005 10:17 AM, Andrew Close <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> 
> i've had good success with the Chaintech 7NIF2 motherboard and Myth
> (KnoppMyth R5A12).  i have an Athlon XP +2700, which is socket A.  i'm
> not sure what the Duron is...
> it has onboard svideo, vga, audio, lan and the nforce2 chipset.  my
> only complaint is that i thought it had SPDIF connectors onboard (it
(snip)

I used to highly recommend the ASUS A7N8X-VM, which is an almost
identical board, HOWEVER, I no longer recommend Nforce2 IGB (onboard
graphic) board.  They just aren't stable under extremly high load

I used one for almost a year in my Myth box with a PVR-250 and a BTTV
tunner.  We also have about a dozen of these in use at work in various
boxes.

My Myth box locked up every once in a while, usually while recording
two programs at once.  I could cause it to happen more frequently by
cranking up the bitrate on my video.  I usually attributed the lockups
to the ittv driver and didn't get to upset.   But then recently, I
turned on commercial detection, and it was happening all the time.  I
finally got upset and looked into the problem.  It was the board. 
There is something about the onboard graphics and the heavy load.  
We've had the same problems at work with these boards.  We could never
get the boards to accept 1gig of memory (2x512) and boot.  We tried
Kingston, Corsair, and Crucial memory, none worked.  Talking to the
Tech Support at Mwave.com where we buy a lot of gear, they tell us
they can't get it to work either, without putting a AGP video card in
it, which worked semi-stable.  They said the IGB boards are all buggy.
So... YMMV,maybe the Chaintech's are better than the Asus, but, I
wouldn't touch it if you plan on having more then 1 tunner.   I am now
very happy running an MSI Nforce2 board and FX5200 card.  Rock solid. 
Amazing.  I can't beleive I used to put up with it locking up  once a
week or so.

I've been meaning to start a Hardware Compatabilty page over at the
WIKI.  I'm picturing a page w/ just the MB name, and a description
that basiclly states: Works Well or Sucks.  I was really thinking
about this after my experance with a Giga-byte FX5600XT card which the
Svideo out just sucked big time, but the Asus Nforce2 onboard was
great and so is this new MSI card.  So, it just varies from manuf. 
But, I haven't got around to it.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-04-01 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Friday 01 April 2005 07:34, John Kuhn wrote:
> >I've also got the same problem with my 7NIF2...seems like that must be
> >a prominent issue with this board
>
> I just control the volume on my tv.. the only problem is the sound out
> from the board is a little low for my liking.. other then that it's not
> a big deal

I honestly couldn't say if the volume sliders work on either of my nForce2 
boards (7NIF2 included, I think I started that whole fad ;-). Both output 
their audio to amps, where all my volume control is done. :-)

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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-04-01 Thread John Kuhn

I've also got the same problem with my 7NIF2...seems like that must be
a prominent issue with this board
 

I just control the volume on my tv.. the only problem is the sound out 
from the board is a little low for my liking.. other then that it's not 
a big deal

--John
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Mark Blakley
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:52:22 -0500, John Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chris Gardner wrote:
> 
> >>Everything else on the
> >>board seems to be great (though, I can't seem to get my mixer to
> >>control the volume -- don't know if it's the board or my
> >>configuration).
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I've got the same problem with my 7nif2 using Knoppmyth R5A12.  May be
> >the board.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I'd just like to chime in and say.. ME TOO!!!
> 
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I've also got the same problem with my 7NIF2...seems like that must be
a prominent issue with this board
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread John Kuhn
Chris Gardner wrote:
Everything else on the
board seems to be great (though, I can't seem to get my mixer to
control the volume -- don't know if it's the board or my
configuration).
   

I've got the same problem with my 7nif2 using Knoppmyth R5A12.  May be
the board.
 

I'd just like to chime in and say.. ME TOO!!!
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Brad Benson
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:53:37 -0600, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> this is the board I use.  No complaints.  I think what it comes down
> to is tons of people like the nForce2 chipset :)
> 
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:06:42 -0600, Dan Littlejohn
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Wish I had known about the S/PDIF bracket for the 7NIF2 and MSI boards.
> >
> > I picked the Abit AN7 for the S/PDIF (and it uses the slightly better
> > audio codec, Realtek ALC658 compared to the RealtekALC650) and picked
> > up a FX5200 video card.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:35:41 -0800, Rei Toi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Mark Gardner wrote:
> > > > I've skimmed the archives and havnt' found an answer to my liking...
> > > > so here's the question
> > > >
> > > > I'm planning on building a myth Frontend/Backend box with some
> > > > hardware i have around
> > > > AMD 1200 Duron (could be Athlon if I need the power)
> > > > PVR 350
> > > > 512 DDR
> > > > Will build either on SUSE 9.3 ( I work for novell ) or Fedora Core
> > > >
> > > > What i'm looking for is a motherboard that won't break the bank, but
> > > > just works.  I had one with a VIA chipset that had a bunch of DMA
> > > > errors :( But have had many good reports with nForce chipsets.
> > > > Preferably the onboard sound should work
> > > > Onboard video a plus but not required...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in Advance.
> > > Hi Mark,
> > >
> > > I use the MSI "K7N2GM2-LSR" motherboard which is currently $61.50 at 
> > > Newegg:
> > > http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-130-477&depa=0
> > >
> > > It has the nForce2 chipset and comes with the TV-out bracket (s-video &
> > > composite).
> > >
> > > You can use the bios to reconfigure the 3 audio jacks (Line-in,
> > > Line-out, & Mic.) to be 4 or 6 channel audio; if your surround sound
> > > system requires this. (I haven't tried it; you *may* need to use their
> > > MS Windows utilities to configure this particular option.)
> > >
> > > The board doesn't come with an S/PDIF bracket, but you can buy one (RCA
> > > & optical fiber) at CensusPC for $12.00:
> > > http://www.censuspc.com/cart/product.php?productid=182&cat=46&page=2
> > >
> > > Installing FC3 was fine, everything "just worked."  Also, installing
> > > Myth in accordance with Jarod's guide worked out very well.
> > >
> > > I also have a PVR-350 and have tried both it's TV-out and the on-board
> > > nForce TV-out.  I like the PVR-350's TV output much better (on my
> > > standard def TV the picture quality is higher) but I have to admit that
> > > I didn't try too hard to see if I could tweak the nVidia video quality.
> > >
> > > Having said that, X looks worse on the PVR-350 vs. the on-board nForce
> > > TV-out...  I use the PVR-350's TV-out anyway though, as my box is 100%
> > > dedicated to TV watching so I don't play games, etc. with this unit.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > -Rei.
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I'm also using the Chaintech 7NIF2 mobo and it's been great for me
with two minor exceptions.  The lack of spdif output is slightly
annoying (although I have a separate soundcard with spdif so not that
big a deal for me).  The other problem is really driving me nuts.  I
can't for the life of me get the temp sensors on the 7NIF2 to report
correct temperatures.  I've tried various versions of i2c and
lm_sensors as well as following various sets of instructions found via
google.  No matter what I do the CPU temp fluctuates wildly from -14C
to 80C.  Obviously my CPU is not running at -14C, let alone jumping to
34C a second or two later.  In all my attempts to correct this sensor
error, the most I've been able to do is totally hose my ivtv drivers
(requiring about 4 hours of tinkering to get it back) while still
getting bad temp readings.

If you're planning to monitor the temp in your system I'd consider
looking at a different board unless anyone else here has some
suggestions for making it work.  If you don't care about the temp
sensors I'd highly recommend this board.

Brad
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Joseph A. Caputo
On Thursday 31 March 2005 14:53, Matt wrote:
> this is the board I use.  No complaints.  I think what it comes down
> to is tons of people like the nForce2 chipset :)

See, this is why top-posting is bad, because it totally disrupts the 
flow of a conversation... when you say "this is the board I use", I 
have no idea to which board you're referring.  There are three boards 
mentioned in the thread:  7NIF2, Abit AN7 & MSI K7N2GM2-LSR.  Only by 
going back through my email and reading the message that this was in 
reply to was I able to surmise that "this" board refers to (I think) 
the Abit AN7.  Please trim your posts & don't top-post to avoid 
confusion.

Of course, in this case the problem was confounded by the fact that the 
post was itself responding to a top-poster, while most of the thread 
was bottom-posted... I can't follow the conversation at all without 
using my own email archive as a guide to who said what, when.

Please don't take it personally; I normally try to refrain from sounding 
like a jerk, but I just wanted to point this out as an example of why 
top-posting is bad.

Oh, and I'm intentionally not trimming this post so folks can see what 
I'm talking about.

-JAC

> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:06:42 -0600, Dan Littlejohn
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Wish I had known about the S/PDIF bracket for the 7NIF2 and MSI 
boards.
> > 
> > I picked the Abit AN7 for the S/PDIF (and it uses the slightly 
better
> > audio codec, Realtek ALC658 compared to the RealtekALC650) and 
picked
> > up a FX5200 video card.
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:35:41 -0800, Rei Toi 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Mark Gardner wrote:
> > > > I've skimmed the archives and havnt' found an answer to my 
liking...
> > > > so here's the question
> > > >
> > > > I'm planning on building a myth Frontend/Backend box with some
> > > > hardware i have around
> > > > AMD 1200 Duron (could be Athlon if I need the power)
> > > > PVR 350
> > > > 512 DDR
> > > > Will build either on SUSE 9.3 ( I work for novell ) or Fedora 
Core
> > > >
> > > > What i'm looking for is a motherboard that won't break the bank, 
but
> > > > just works.  I had one with a VIA chipset that had a bunch of 
DMA
> > > > errors :( But have had many good reports with nForce chipsets.
> > > > Preferably the onboard sound should work
> > > > Onboard video a plus but not required...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in Advance.
> > > Hi Mark,
> > >
> > > I use the MSI "K7N2GM2-LSR" motherboard which is currently $61.50 
at Newegg:
> > > 
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-130-477&depa=0
> > >
> > > It has the nForce2 chipset and comes with the TV-out bracket 
(s-video &
> > > composite).
> > >
> > > You can use the bios to reconfigure the 3 audio jacks (Line-in,
> > > Line-out, & Mic.) to be 4 or 6 channel audio; if your surround 
sound
> > > system requires this. (I haven't tried it; you *may* need to use 
their
> > > MS Windows utilities to configure this particular option.)
> > >
> > > The board doesn't come with an S/PDIF bracket, but you can buy one 
(RCA
> > > & optical fiber) at CensusPC for $12.00:
> > > 
http://www.censuspc.com/cart/product.php?productid=182&cat=46&page=2
> > >
> > > Installing FC3 was fine, everything "just worked."  Also, 
installing
> > > Myth in accordance with Jarod's guide worked out very well.
> > >
> > > I also have a PVR-350 and have tried both it's TV-out and the 
on-board
> > > nForce TV-out.  I like the PVR-350's TV output much better (on my
> > > standard def TV the picture quality is higher) but I have to admit 
that
> > > I didn't try too hard to see if I could tweak the nVidia video 
quality.
> > >
> > > Having said that, X looks worse on the PVR-350 vs. the on-board 
nForce
> > > TV-out...  I use the PVR-350's TV-out anyway though, as my box is 
100%
> > > dedicated to TV watching so I don't play games, etc. with this 
unit.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > -Rei.
> > >
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Joseph A. Caputo
On Thursday 31 March 2005 14:31, Dan Littlejohn wrote:
> I heard there are several problems with ALSA 1.0.8.  I am having to
> revert back to 1.0.7 because of a problem with Xine.

Hmm.  1.0.8 seems to work just fine for me on my FC2 box.  I've been 
using Xine, and Ogle just fine, as well as occasionally running it as a 
remote frontend.  I guess that's why they always say "YMMV".

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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Matt
this is the board I use.  No complaints.  I think what it comes down
to is tons of people like the nForce2 chipset :)


On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:06:42 -0600, Dan Littlejohn
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wish I had known about the S/PDIF bracket for the 7NIF2 and MSI boards.
> 
> I picked the Abit AN7 for the S/PDIF (and it uses the slightly better
> audio codec, Realtek ALC658 compared to the RealtekALC650) and picked
> up a FX5200 video card.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:35:41 -0800, Rei Toi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mark Gardner wrote:
> > > I've skimmed the archives and havnt' found an answer to my liking...
> > > so here's the question
> > >
> > > I'm planning on building a myth Frontend/Backend box with some
> > > hardware i have around
> > > AMD 1200 Duron (could be Athlon if I need the power)
> > > PVR 350
> > > 512 DDR
> > > Will build either on SUSE 9.3 ( I work for novell ) or Fedora Core
> > >
> > > What i'm looking for is a motherboard that won't break the bank, but
> > > just works.  I had one with a VIA chipset that had a bunch of DMA
> > > errors :( But have had many good reports with nForce chipsets.
> > > Preferably the onboard sound should work
> > > Onboard video a plus but not required...
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in Advance.
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > I use the MSI "K7N2GM2-LSR" motherboard which is currently $61.50 at Newegg:
> > http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-130-477&depa=0
> >
> > It has the nForce2 chipset and comes with the TV-out bracket (s-video &
> > composite).
> >
> > You can use the bios to reconfigure the 3 audio jacks (Line-in,
> > Line-out, & Mic.) to be 4 or 6 channel audio; if your surround sound
> > system requires this. (I haven't tried it; you *may* need to use their
> > MS Windows utilities to configure this particular option.)
> >
> > The board doesn't come with an S/PDIF bracket, but you can buy one (RCA
> > & optical fiber) at CensusPC for $12.00:
> > http://www.censuspc.com/cart/product.php?productid=182&cat=46&page=2
> >
> > Installing FC3 was fine, everything "just worked."  Also, installing
> > Myth in accordance with Jarod's guide worked out very well.
> >
> > I also have a PVR-350 and have tried both it's TV-out and the on-board
> > nForce TV-out.  I like the PVR-350's TV output much better (on my
> > standard def TV the picture quality is higher) but I have to admit that
> > I didn't try too hard to see if I could tweak the nVidia video quality.
> >
> > Having said that, X looks worse on the PVR-350 vs. the on-board nForce
> > TV-out...  I use the PVR-350's TV-out anyway though, as my box is 100%
> > dedicated to TV watching so I don't play games, etc. with this unit.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > -Rei.
> >
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Dan Littlejohn
I heard there are several problems with ALSA 1.0.8.  I am having to
revert back to 1.0.7 because of a problem with Xine.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-310644-highlight-sigsegv+xine.html

Dan


On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:17:14 -0500, Joseph A. Caputo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 31 March 2005 12:54, Chris Gardner wrote:
> > > Everything else on the
> > > board seems to be great (though, I can't seem to get my mixer to
> > > control the volume -- don't know if it's the board or my
> > > configuration).
> >
> > I've got the same problem with my 7nif2 using Knoppmyth R5A12.  May be
> > the board.
> 
> Nice to know it's not just me.  I've been toying with the idea of
> temporarily installing Winblows just to see what happens.  Or, maybe
> I'll try the latest Knoppix w/2.6 kernel (I'm still running FC1 w/a
> 2.4.22 kernel).  Could be my ALSA version, too.  I'm running 1.0.6a;
> latest stable release is 1.0.8.
> 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Joseph A. Caputo
On Thursday 31 March 2005 12:54, Chris Gardner wrote:
> > Everything else on the
> > board seems to be great (though, I can't seem to get my mixer to
> > control the volume -- don't know if it's the board or my
> > configuration).
> 
> I've got the same problem with my 7nif2 using Knoppmyth R5A12.  May be
> the board.

Nice to know it's not just me.  I've been toying with the idea of 
temporarily installing Winblows just to see what happens.  Or, maybe 
I'll try the latest Knoppix w/2.6 kernel (I'm still running FC1 w/a 
2.4.22 kernel).  Could be my ALSA version, too.  I'm running 1.0.6a; 
latest stable release is 1.0.8.

-JAC
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Dan Littlejohn
Wish I had known about the S/PDIF bracket for the 7NIF2 and MSI boards.

I picked the Abit AN7 for the S/PDIF (and it uses the slightly better
audio codec, Realtek ALC658 compared to the RealtekALC650) and picked
up a FX5200 video card.

Dan



On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:35:41 -0800, Rei Toi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Gardner wrote:
> > I've skimmed the archives and havnt' found an answer to my liking...
> > so here's the question
> >
> > I'm planning on building a myth Frontend/Backend box with some
> > hardware i have around
> > AMD 1200 Duron (could be Athlon if I need the power)
> > PVR 350
> > 512 DDR
> > Will build either on SUSE 9.3 ( I work for novell ) or Fedora Core
> >
> > What i'm looking for is a motherboard that won't break the bank, but
> > just works.  I had one with a VIA chipset that had a bunch of DMA
> > errors :( But have had many good reports with nForce chipsets.
> > Preferably the onboard sound should work
> > Onboard video a plus but not required...
> >
> >
> > Thanks in Advance.
> Hi Mark,
> 
> I use the MSI "K7N2GM2-LSR" motherboard which is currently $61.50 at Newegg:
> http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-130-477&depa=0
> 
> It has the nForce2 chipset and comes with the TV-out bracket (s-video &
> composite).
> 
> You can use the bios to reconfigure the 3 audio jacks (Line-in,
> Line-out, & Mic.) to be 4 or 6 channel audio; if your surround sound
> system requires this. (I haven't tried it; you *may* need to use their
> MS Windows utilities to configure this particular option.)
> 
> The board doesn't come with an S/PDIF bracket, but you can buy one (RCA
> & optical fiber) at CensusPC for $12.00:
> http://www.censuspc.com/cart/product.php?productid=182&cat=46&page=2
> 
> Installing FC3 was fine, everything "just worked."  Also, installing
> Myth in accordance with Jarod's guide worked out very well.
> 
> I also have a PVR-350 and have tried both it's TV-out and the on-board
> nForce TV-out.  I like the PVR-350's TV output much better (on my
> standard def TV the picture quality is higher) but I have to admit that
> I didn't try too hard to see if I could tweak the nVidia video quality.
> 
> Having said that, X looks worse on the PVR-350 vs. the on-board nForce
> TV-out...  I use the PVR-350's TV-out anyway though, as my box is 100%
> dedicated to TV watching so I don't play games, etc. with this unit.
> 
> HTH
> 
> -Rei.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Rei Toi
Mark Gardner wrote:
I've skimmed the archives and havnt' found an answer to my liking...
so here's the question
I'm planning on building a myth Frontend/Backend box with some
hardware i have around
AMD 1200 Duron (could be Athlon if I need the power)
PVR 350
512 DDR
Will build either on SUSE 9.3 ( I work for novell ) or Fedora Core 

What i'm looking for is a motherboard that won't break the bank, but
just works.  I had one with a VIA chipset that had a bunch of DMA
errors :( But have had many good reports with nForce chipsets.
Preferably the onboard sound should work
Onboard video a plus but not required...
Thanks in Advance.
Hi Mark,
I use the MSI "K7N2GM2-LSR" motherboard which is currently $61.50 at Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-130-477&depa=0
It has the nForce2 chipset and comes with the TV-out bracket (s-video & 
composite).

You can use the bios to reconfigure the 3 audio jacks (Line-in, 
Line-out, & Mic.) to be 4 or 6 channel audio; if your surround sound 
system requires this. (I haven't tried it; you *may* need to use their 
MS Windows utilities to configure this particular option.)

The board doesn't come with an S/PDIF bracket, but you can buy one (RCA 
& optical fiber) at CensusPC for $12.00:
http://www.censuspc.com/cart/product.php?productid=182&cat=46&page=2

Installing FC3 was fine, everything "just worked."  Also, installing 
Myth in accordance with Jarod's guide worked out very well.

I also have a PVR-350 and have tried both it's TV-out and the on-board 
nForce TV-out.  I like the PVR-350's TV output much better (on my 
standard def TV the picture quality is higher) but I have to admit that 
I didn't try too hard to see if I could tweak the nVidia video quality.

Having said that, X looks worse on the PVR-350 vs. the on-board nForce 
TV-out...  I use the PVR-350's TV-out anyway though, as my box is 100% 
dedicated to TV watching so I don't play games, etc. with this unit.

HTH
-Rei.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Andrew Close
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:54:20 -0500, Chris Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Everything else on the
> > board seems to be great (though, I can't seem to get my mixer to
> > control the volume -- don't know if it's the board or my
> > configuration).
> 
> I've got the same problem with my 7nif2 using Knoppmyth R5A12.  May be
> the board.

now that i think about it, i have the same prob.  while configuring i
was only listening via headphones connected to the line out.  the
sound was either on or off using the keyboard controls in Myth
although the graphic (progress bar?) looked like the sound was
increasing/decreasing.  i assumed it was because i was just connected
to headphones.  i haven't quite got my MythBox working through the tv
yet so i haven't tried sound out.  i will be running it through my
reciever so sound being either on or off may not matter in my
situation.  but once i get this system working correctly i'll be
building another one that has SPDIF out. :)
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Chris Gardner
> Everything else on the
> board seems to be great (though, I can't seem to get my mixer to
> control the volume -- don't know if it's the board or my
> configuration).

I've got the same problem with my 7nif2 using Knoppmyth R5A12.  May be
the board.


Chris.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Joseph A. Caputo
On Thursday 31 March 2005 12:22, Donavan Stanley wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:48:55 -0700, Mark Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > What i'm looking for is a motherboard that won't break the bank, but
> > just works.  I had one with a VIA chipset that had a bunch of DMA
> > errors :( But have had many good reports with nForce chipsets.
> > Preferably the onboard sound should work
> > Onboard video a plus but not required...
> 
> I'll also chime in and reccomend the 7NIF2.  As others have mentioned
> the lack of SPDIF on board might be an issue, however in all other
> respects it's a great choice.  The TV-Out quality is fantastic and
> having it on the backplane is a nice plus.  I've also used one of
> these boards to drive a HDTV LCD for a bit without issue.

One caveat about the 7NIF2:  though most folks have had good 
experiences, I bought one in November, and they appear to have updated 
the graphics chipset.  The TV-out for me just plain sucks.  Much worse 
then my old AGP GF4-MX 420.  At first I chalked it up to the newer NV18 
TV encoder that it uses (previous revisions used the NV17), but I've 
other folks swear that they don't have a problem with their NV18 
TV-out.  I dunno, maybe I just got a bad board.  Everything else on the 
board seems to be great (though, I can't seem to get my mixer to 
control the volume -- don't know if it's the board or my 
configuration).

-JAC
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Donavan Stanley
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:48:55 -0700, Mark Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What i'm looking for is a motherboard that won't break the bank, but
> just works.  I had one with a VIA chipset that had a bunch of DMA
> errors :( But have had many good reports with nForce chipsets.
> Preferably the onboard sound should work
> Onboard video a plus but not required...

I'll also chime in and reccomend the 7NIF2.  As others have mentioned
the lack of SPDIF on board might be an issue, however in all other
respects it's a great choice.  The TV-Out quality is fantastic and
having it on the backplane is a nice plus.  I've also used one of
these boards to drive a HDTV LCD for a bit without issue.

Your choice of Suse 9.3 should be fine.  I run 9.2 Pro on all of my
machines now.  Just install apt-get and add snowmans repository and
you should be able to get all the depencies for Myth as binaries. 
Also, grab the LSB init script for the backend from the contrib
directory it was built with Suse in mind.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Andrew Close
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:48:55 -0700, Mark Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've skimmed the archives and havnt' found an answer to my liking...
> so here's the question
> 
> I'm planning on building a myth Frontend/Backend box with some
> hardware i have around
> AMD 1200 Duron (could be Athlon if I need the power)
> PVR 350
> 512 DDR
> Will build either on SUSE 9.3 ( I work for novell ) or Fedora Core
> 
> What i'm looking for is a motherboard that won't break the bank, but
> just works.  I had one with a VIA chipset that had a bunch of DMA
> errors :( But have had many good reports with nForce chipsets.
> Preferably the onboard sound should work
> Onboard video a plus but not required...

Mark,

i've had good success with the Chaintech 7NIF2 motherboard and Myth
(KnoppMyth R5A12).  i have an Athlon XP +2700, which is socket A.  i'm
not sure what the Duron is...
it has onboard svideo, vga, audio, lan and the nforce2 chipset.  my
only complaint is that i thought it had SPDIF connectors onboard (it
appears to) but i couldn't find an adaptor to allow for passthrough. 
i finally contacted Chaintech and asked about it and they said: "7NIF2
S/PDIF feature is for manufacture option, so that board you have is
not support S/PDIF feature.".  so you might want to look at the 7NIF4
which i believe is the replacement board for the 7NIF2. 
http://www.chaintechusa.com/tw/eng/

this board is a micro-ATX and only has three PCI slots + AGP.  if you
want the SP/DIF option you may have to give up a slot.  and if you
don't already have a capture card i'd recommend the pvr-250 over the
350 as it's cheaper and you're looking at motherboards with svideo out
so you don't really need the 350.

andy
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Chris Gardner
Mark,
  I use the ChainTech 7nif2 MB.
  Onboard S-Video out, Sound, Ethernet.

  It worked right out of the box for me. I could not be happier with it.
  
  I think it was about $85.

Chris.



On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:48:55 -0700, Mark Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've skimmed the archives and havnt' found an answer to my liking...
> so here's the question
> 
> I'm planning on building a myth Frontend/Backend box with some
> hardware i have around
> AMD 1200 Duron (could be Athlon if I need the power)
> PVR 350
> 512 DDR
> Will build either on SUSE 9.3 ( I work for novell ) or Fedora Core
> 
> What i'm looking for is a motherboard that won't break the bank, but
> just works.  I had one with a VIA chipset that had a bunch of DMA
> errors :( But have had many good reports with nForce chipsets.
> Preferably the onboard sound should work
> Onboard video a plus but not required...
> 
> Thanks in Advance.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Alex Cruz
Try this one:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-152-051&depa=1
One of the regulars on the KnoppMyth forums recommended this one as part of 
his sub $600 MythTV box.

On Thursday 31 March 2005 09:48 am, Mark Gardner wrote:
> What i'm looking for is a motherboard that won't break the bank, but
> just works.  I had one with a VIA chipset that had a bunch of DMA
> errors :( But have had many good reports with nForce chipsets.
> Preferably the onboard sound should work
> Onboard video a plus but not required...
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[mythtv-users] Motherboard Recomendation

2005-03-31 Thread Mark Gardner
I've skimmed the archives and havnt' found an answer to my liking...
so here's the question

I'm planning on building a myth Frontend/Backend box with some
hardware i have around
AMD 1200 Duron (could be Athlon if I need the power)
PVR 350
512 DDR
Will build either on SUSE 9.3 ( I work for novell ) or Fedora Core 

What i'm looking for is a motherboard that won't break the bank, but
just works.  I had one with a VIA chipset that had a bunch of DMA
errors :( But have had many good reports with nForce chipsets.
Preferably the onboard sound should work
Onboard video a plus but not required...


Thanks in Advance.
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