Re: [mythtv-users] OSX frontend mouse?

2006-01-10 Thread David Snider
What do you use for a Mac remote?  I bought the keyspan remote and don't like it too much.  very small and flimsy feeling...   ToddI also use the Keyspan remote.  But I had a Sony learning remote so I programmed the buttons from the Keyspan into the Sony.   Still not enough buttons, but not as flimsy...___
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Re: [mythtv-users] OSX frontend mouse?

2006-01-10 Thread Brad DerManouelian
On Jan 9, 2006, at 11:03 PM, Todd Houle wrote:On Jan 8, 2006, at 9:23 PM, Brad DerManouelian wrote:A remote would help quite a bit actually. I've set up mine and I never have to touch the keyboard. Full control from across the room is nice. :) The only time I ever touch the keyboard is when I enter a search phrase.Also keep in mind that there are major UI changes in the works (from what I've read, anyway).___What do you use for a Mac remote?  I bought the keyspan remote and don't like it too much.  very small and flimsy feeling...   ToddI bought a learning remote and mapped the buttons to it. Plus now I have more buttons at my disposal. I think it cost $18 at Radio Shack.___
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Re: [mythtv-users] OSX frontend mouse?

2006-01-09 Thread Todd Houle
On Jan 8, 2006, at 9:23 PM, Brad DerManouelian wrote:A remote would help quite a bit actually. I've set up mine and I never have to touch the keyboard. Full control from across the room is nice. :) The only time I ever touch the keyboard is when I enter a search phrase.Also keep in mind that there are major UI changes in the works (from what I've read, anyway).___What do you use for a Mac remote?  I bought the keyspan remote and don't like it too much.  very small and flimsy feeling...   Todd___
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Re: [mythtv-users] OSX frontend mouse?

2006-01-09 Thread David Abrahams
Brad DerManouelian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Jan 8, 2006, at 9:03 PM, David Abrahams wrote:
>
>> Brad DerManouelian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> There's very little I've found in the MythTV UI that can really take
>> advantage of the keyboard anyway.  In fact, it seems like in many
>> screens where a keyboard _could_ be really great, the UI only lets you
>> use the arrow keys.  For example, when setting the duration or time of
>> a recording in the manual record screen I should be able to type in a
>> number.  Instead I can only scroll through a list of numbers that
>> often
>> doesn't include the exact value I want.
>
> A remote would help quite a bit actually. I've set up mine and I
> never have to touch the keyboard. 

Try setting up a time in the "schedule manual recording" screen.  I
think you won't be happy.  Even in other screens, don't you expect the
big "select" button in the middle of all the arrows to be able to set
a checkbox?  Does it really make sense to you that pushing the
"rightarrow" button sets it and the "select" button dismisses that
screen?

> Full control from across the room is nice. :)

I have a wireless keyboard/mouse for that ;-)

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Re: [mythtv-users] OSX frontend mouse?

2006-01-08 Thread David Abrahams
Brad DerManouelian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Jan 8, 2006, at 9:03 PM, David Abrahams wrote:
>
>> Brad DerManouelian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2006, at 6:13 PM, David Abrahams wrote:
>>>
>> There's very little I've found in the MythTV UI that can really take
>> advantage of the keyboard anyway.  In fact, it seems like in many
>> screens where a keyboard _could_ be really great, the UI only lets you
>> use the arrow keys.  For example, when setting the duration or time of
>> a recording in the manual record screen I should be able to type in a
>> number.  Instead I can only scroll through a list of numbers that
>> often
>> doesn't include the exact value I want.
>
> A remote would help quite a bit actually. I've set up mine and I
> never have to touch the keyboard. Full control from across the room
> is nice. :) The only time I ever touch the keyboard is when I enter a
> search phrase.
>
> Also keep in mind that there are major UI changes in the works (from
> what I've read, anyway). 

I'm working with SVN, so unless they're on a branch, I've already seen
them, such as they are.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OSX frontend mouse?

2006-01-08 Thread Brad DerManouelian

On Jan 8, 2006, at 9:03 PM, David Abrahams wrote:


Brad DerManouelian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


On Jan 8, 2006, at 6:13 PM, David Abrahams wrote:



Within the MythTV frontend on my mac the mouse becomes invisible and
inoperable.  At first I thought that was just how MythTV worked, but
then I happened to access the frontend over VNC from a Linux box,  
and
the mouse worked!  Can anyone tell me how to get the mouse  
working on

my MacOS frontend?

Thanks in advance,
Dave


Utilities/Setup->Appearance->Screen Settings (second screen in
Appearance)
There's a checkbox for Hide Mouse Cursor in Myth

You'll find that some buttons works with a mouse, but theme-specific
stuff probably won't.


Oh, like the top-level menus.  Too bad :(


Myth isn't meant to be used with a mouse, but there is some support
for it left over from legacy code, I believe.  You'd be much better
off getting used to not using the mouse. It's faster... really!


I am an inveterate emacs user and I generally prefer not using a
mouse... really!  But Myth's keyboard interface is so unpredictable
for me (sometimes spacebar selects/presses the current widget --
e.g. for buttons -- but if you're on a checkbox it presses the "Next"
button!?!) that a mouse is much less frustrating.  Also in
configuration screens with many items it's a lot faster to click the
*one* I care about.  Furthermore, I'd much rather keep a little mouse
on my coffee table than an entire keyboard.  Yes, I will be setting up
a remote, but that will inherit all the same problems of the
keyboard UI.

There's very little I've found in the MythTV UI that can really take
advantage of the keyboard anyway.  In fact, it seems like in many
screens where a keyboard _could_ be really great, the UI only lets you
use the arrow keys.  For example, when setting the duration or time of
a recording in the manual record screen I should be able to type in a
number.  Instead I can only scroll through a list of numbers that  
often

doesn't include the exact value I want.


A remote would help quite a bit actually. I've set up mine and I  
never have to touch the keyboard. Full control from across the room  
is nice. :) The only time I ever touch the keyboard is when I enter a  
search phrase.


Also keep in mind that there are major UI changes in the works (from  
what I've read, anyway). 
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Re: [mythtv-users] OSX frontend mouse?

2006-01-08 Thread David Abrahams
Brad DerManouelian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Jan 8, 2006, at 6:13 PM, David Abrahams wrote:
>
>>
>> Within the MythTV frontend on my mac the mouse becomes invisible and
>> inoperable.  At first I thought that was just how MythTV worked, but
>> then I happened to access the frontend over VNC from a Linux box, and
>> the mouse worked!  Can anyone tell me how to get the mouse working on
>> my MacOS frontend?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Dave
>
> Utilities/Setup->Appearance->Screen Settings (second screen in
> Appearance)
> There's a checkbox for Hide Mouse Cursor in Myth
>
> You'll find that some buttons works with a mouse, but theme-specific
> stuff probably won't. 

Oh, like the top-level menus.  Too bad :(

> Myth isn't meant to be used with a mouse, but there is some support
> for it left over from legacy code, I believe.  You'd be much better
> off getting used to not using the mouse. It's faster... really!

I am an inveterate emacs user and I generally prefer not using a
mouse... really!  But Myth's keyboard interface is so unpredictable
for me (sometimes spacebar selects/presses the current widget --
e.g. for buttons -- but if you're on a checkbox it presses the "Next"
button!?!) that a mouse is much less frustrating.  Also in
configuration screens with many items it's a lot faster to click the
*one* I care about.  Furthermore, I'd much rather keep a little mouse
on my coffee table than an entire keyboard.  Yes, I will be setting up
a remote, but that will inherit all the same problems of the
keyboard UI.

There's very little I've found in the MythTV UI that can really take
advantage of the keyboard anyway.  In fact, it seems like in many
screens where a keyboard _could_ be really great, the UI only lets you
use the arrow keys.  For example, when setting the duration or time of
a recording in the manual record screen I should be able to type in a
number.  Instead I can only scroll through a list of numbers that often
doesn't include the exact value I want.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OSX frontend mouse?

2006-01-08 Thread Brad DerManouelian

On Jan 8, 2006, at 6:13 PM, David Abrahams wrote:



Within the MythTV frontend on my mac the mouse becomes invisible and
inoperable.  At first I thought that was just how MythTV worked, but
then I happened to access the frontend over VNC from a Linux box, and
the mouse worked!  Can anyone tell me how to get the mouse working on
my MacOS frontend?

Thanks in advance,
Dave


Utilities/Setup->Appearance->Screen Settings (second screen in  
Appearance)

There's a checkbox for Hide Mouse Cursor in Myth

You'll find that some buttons works with a mouse, but theme-specific  
stuff probably won't. Myth isn't meant to be used with a mouse, but  
there is some support for it left over from legacy code, I believe.  
You'd be much better off getting used to not using the mouse. It's  
faster... really!


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[mythtv-users] OSX frontend mouse?

2006-01-08 Thread David Abrahams

Within the MythTV frontend on my mac the mouse becomes invisible and
inoperable.  At first I thought that was just how MythTV worked, but
then I happened to access the frontend over VNC from a Linux box, and
the mouse worked!  Can anyone tell me how to get the mouse working on
my MacOS frontend?

Thanks in advance,
Dave

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