Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar
Lane Schwartz wrote:
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:59:00 -, Neil Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Like in the UK you don't say you are going to vacuum your house (unless you
are trying to sound posh), you get the Hoover out, even it is made by
someone else. The exception to this is Dyson, people actually call it a
Dyson.
Even worse, if you are going to 'vacuum' your house, how will you live
in it ?
How do you seal the doors and windows to keep that vacuum in ? :-)
If you hear the Dutch word for Hoover/vacuum cleaner: (translated)
Dust-Sucker... Ah well..
But everybody calls it just that.. ('stofzuiger' that is...)
And for Dyson.. ahem.. Well it isn't a vacuum cleaner so why call it
one... ;-)
Gert
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:59:00 -, Neil Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like in the UK you don't say you are going to vacuum your house (unless you > are trying to sound posh), you get the Hoover out, even it is made by > someone else. The exception to this is Dyson, people actually call it a > Dyson. I lived in England for a while (a year of undergrad in Nottingham, a year of graduate school in Cambridge). "Hoover" was the one bit of British English I just could never get used to. I willingly added "u" to colour and favourite. I dropped "the" when talking about someone who's in hospital. I can pull off a really atrocious imitation of a BBC radio newscaster. I wrote cheques (not checks!) with amounts like "Five pounds only" instead of "Five pounds and no/100". I even learned to refer to sports teams as singular entities (America have advanced to the second round of the World Cup!). But I never could get over the use of Hoover to mean vacuum. Cheers, Lane :) -- Meetup with other Myth users! http://mythtv.info/moin.cgi/MUG ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar
It works both ways. Kodak used to have a slogan that was something like "If it's not an Eastman it's not a Kodak" if they hadn't dropped it, everyone would probably call a camera a kodak Like in the UK you don't say you are going to vacuum your house (unless you are trying to sound posh), you get the Hoover out, even it is made by someone else. The exception to this is Dyson, people actually call it a Dyson. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Carr > Sent: 14 December 2004 17:33 > To: Discussion about mythtv > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar > > > I would think they would want the advertising. Oh well... > > Kevin Kuphal wrote: > > > I thought this was funny: > > > http://news.com.com/Noun+Verb+TiVo+says+its+neither/2100-1041_3-54 > 88370.html > > > > > > TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb. > > Granted they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny. > > > > Kevin > > > > ___ > > mythtv-users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > > -- > Scott Carr > OpenOffice.org > Documentation Co-Lead > http://documentation.openoffice.org > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar
And I thought the days of conquering armies pillaging and looting were over! On Tuesday 14 December 2004 02:05 pm, Scott Alfter wrote: > However, the German company lost the right to use the trademark in many > countries as the Allies seized and resold its foreign assets after > World War I. The right to use "Aspirin" in the United States (along with > all other Bayer trademarks) was purchased from the U.S. government by > Sterling Drug, Inc in 1918. -- Bill Chmura Director of Internet Technology Explosivo ITG Wolcott, CT p: 888.560.YWEB (9932) e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w. http://www.explosivo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 12:55:17PM -0500, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > Trademarks are a funny thing. > > They *have* to take affirmative action to protect them, or they slip, > into the public domain. > > Like Aspirin. I thought aspirin fell into the public domain because the Germans lost WWI. A search turned up this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspirin The name "aspirin" is composed of a- (for the acetyl group) -spir- (for the spiraea flower) and -in (a common ending for drugs at the time). Bayer registered it as a trademark on March 6, 1899. However, the German company lost the right to use the trademark in many countries as the Allies seized and resold its foreign assets after World War I. The right to use "Aspirin" in the United States (along with all other Bayer trademarks) was purchased from the U.S. government by Sterling Drug, Inc in 1918. Even before the patent for the drug expired in 1917, Bayer had been unable to stop competitors from copying the formula and using the name elsewhere, and so with a flooded market, the public was unable to recognize "Aspirin" as coming from only one manufacturer. Sterling was subsequently unable to prevent "Aspirin" from being ruled a generic mark (and therefore unprotected) in a U.S. federal court in 1921. Other countries (such as Canada) still consider "Aspirin" a protected trademark. _/_ / v \ Scott Alfter (IIGS( http://alfter.us/Top-posting! \_^_/ rm -rf /bin/laden>What's the most annoying thing on Usenet? ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 11:15:01AM -0600, Kevin Kuphal wrote: > > I thought this was funny: > > http://news.com.com/Noun+Verb+TiVo+says+its+neither/2100-1041_3-5488370.html > > > > TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb. > > Granted they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny. I think we should jump in here. My wife uses Myth as a verb all the time... "Oh shoot! I forgot to watch Nip/Tuck last night. Did you Myth it?" or "There's a show on tonight that I want you to Myth" (almost sounds like she's talking with a lisp :) Paul ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Joel Anderson wrote: That's hilarious. "TiVo wants to keep its name from going the way of Xerox or Kleenex" Too late! Lol! Yeah, lots of people 'copied' Xerox and Kleenex as 'blew it'! ;-) -marc ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar
> I thought this was funny: > http://news.com.com/Noun+Verb+TiVo+says+its+neither/2100-1041_3-5488370.html > > TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb. > Granted they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny. That's hilarious. "TiVo wants to keep its name from going the way of Xerox or Kleenex" Too late! Lol! -- Joel ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 11:32:55AM -0600, Scott Carr wrote: > > TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb. > > Granted they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny. > I would think they would want the advertising. Oh well... Trademarks are a funny thing. They *have* to take affirmative action to protect them, or they slip, into the public domain. Like Aspirin. Or Cellophane. So it's a fight that, as a corporation, you want to fight as hard as possible... and lose. You do, as a businessman, in general actually want the mindshare that comes from being a semi-generic term for an action. But you want to have it because you're the primary one in the market (like Google). TiVo, on the other hand, are likely nervous. And we likely *are* on their radar. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth & AssociatesThe Things I Think'87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 If you can read this... thank a system adminstrator. Or two. --me ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 11:15:01AM -0600, Kevin Kuphal wrote: > I thought this was funny: > http://news.com.com/Noun+Verb+TiVo+says+its+neither/2100-1041_3-5488370.html > > TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb. > Granted they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny. Well, they do say that "verbing weirds language"... :-) _/_ / v \ Scott Alfter (IIGS( http://alfter.us/Top-posting! \_^_/ rm -rf /bin/laden>What's the most annoying thing on Usenet? ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar
I would think they would want the advertising. Oh well... Kevin Kuphal wrote: I thought this was funny: http://news.com.com/Noun+Verb+TiVo+says+its+neither/2100-1041_3-5488370.html TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb. Granted they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users -- Scott Carr OpenOffice.org Documentation Co-Lead http://documentation.openoffice.org ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 11:15:01AM -0600, Kevin Kuphal wrote: > I thought this was funny: > http://news.com.com/Noun+Verb+TiVo+says+its+neither/2100-1041_3-5488370.html > > TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb. > Granted they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny. They're correct; it's neither. Like all trademarked brand names, it's an *adjective*: A TiVo personal video recorder. A Band-aid brand adhesive bandage. A Whopper sandwich. Get the impression I've spent too much time doing this? ;-) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth & AssociatesThe Things I Think'87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 If you can read this... thank a system adminstrator. Or two. --me ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar
I thought this was funny: http://news.com.com/Noun+Verb+TiVo+says+its+neither/2100-1041_3-5488370.html TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb. Granted they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: TiVo cracks down on grammar
Heh...maybe I should stop using "Google" as a verb as well ;-) On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Kevin Kuphal wrote: I thought this was funny: http://news.com.com/Noun+Verb+TiVo+says+its+neither/2100-1041_3-5488370.html TiVo is cracking down on news organizations that use TiVo as a verb. Granted they are protecting their trademark but it strikes me as funny. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
