Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myth Firewire Support
Michael Haan wrote: I just called comcast and they're telling me they only have SA 2000, 2100, 2200 and 3200 - no Motorola. How did you get yours? Let me also just vent, quickly. Yet another reason I hate the @#%$*!!! cable company - all they can do is make things difficult. Apparently I can't even buy my own STB to use. Shocker. The main reason you can't buy your own STB is that nobody makes them yet (though I doubt even that's true if you look hard enough). If you could get your hands on an STB that supports CableCard, Comcast must provide you with the CableCard to plug into it, thus enabling decoding of their encrypted streams. Note that the current CableCard spec is uni-directional, meaning you won't be able to use the STB for interactive features. CableCard 2 is pending which will support interactivity. Most new TVs today support CableCard (or so I've heard). Now, all you need to do is see if you can find a 3rd-party STB that (1) supports CableCard and (2) has an enabled Firewire output. Good luck, and please post here if you find one! -JAC ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myth Firewire Support
This thread seems to indicate that you can: http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/2/68496.html Don't know if the SmartCard interface mentioned in the DCT6200 docs is the same as CableCard. On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:41:03 -0500, Joseph Caputo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Haan wrote: I just called comcast and they're telling me they only have SA 2000, 2100, 2200 and 3200 - no Motorola. How did you get yours? Let me also just vent, quickly. Yet another reason I hate the @#%$*!!! cable company - all they can do is make things difficult. Apparently I can't even buy my own STB to use. Shocker. The main reason you can't buy your own STB is that nobody makes them yet (though I doubt even that's true if you look hard enough). If you could get your hands on an STB that supports CableCard, Comcast must provide you with the CableCard to plug into it, thus enabling decoding of their encrypted streams. Note that the current CableCard spec is uni-directional, meaning you won't be able to use the STB for interactive features. CableCard 2 is pending which will support interactivity. Most new TVs today support CableCard (or so I've heard). Now, all you need to do is see if you can find a 3rd-party STB that (1) supports CableCard and (2) has an enabled Firewire output. Good luck, and please post here if you find one! -JAC ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Re: Myth Firewire Support
I picked up a Motorola DCT6200 digital cable box from Comcast. Connected it to my Myth box via FireWire and it works great. By compiling 6200ch.c located in the contrib directory Myth is able to change channels on the 6200. You of course need to compile Myth with ieee1394 support which is dependent on several ieee1394 libraries. libraw1394 and libiec61883 are two libraries you need that I can think of off the top of my head but there may be more. Anyone know any more? Also, you need ieee1394 support compiled into the kernel. Once I got all the libraries compiled and installed and the kernel compiled with ieee1394 support it was a simple matter of plugging in the 6200. Amazingly it just worked! Your milage will of course vary depending on which distro of Linux you're running as to the ease of getting dependencies installed. I use Gentoo and because of their Portage package manager found it fairly easy to get things compiled, installed, configured, and running. The nice thing I've found about running FireWire from the digital cable box is that since there's no need for an analog to digital conversion the hit of the CPU is very small. On the p3 733 I run Myth on capturing video uses roughly 3% of the CPU. I assume the same is true for capture cards but having never used one I can't say for sure. I can run MythFrontend on Mac OS X and watch live or recorded TV over my network as well as change channels by typing them on the keyboard. I also created a Samba share for the directory Myth save the video to whick allows me to copy recorded progams to other computers. Very slick. Having just gotten my myth box running using analog cable and a pvr 350, I'd like to now bring my digital cable box into the fold. But, I don't want to deal with lirc if at all possible. So I'm wondering about the viability of using firewire. How easy is this and what's the prognosis for supporting channel changing over firewire via myth in the near future? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myth Firewire Support
Sounds great. I'm also running gentoo and installed myth by emerging it. What does it mean to compile myth with firewire support - what do I have to do? Also, I have comcast but they've given me a SA 2100 box - can I just request one of these motorola dct6200's? On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:32:03 -0800, Michael Eldridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I picked up a Motorola DCT6200 digital cable box from Comcast. Connected it to my Myth box via FireWire and it works great. By compiling 6200ch.c located in the contrib directory Myth is able to change channels on the 6200. You of course need to compile Myth with ieee1394 support which is dependent on several ieee1394 libraries. libraw1394 and libiec61883 are two libraries you need that I can think of off the top of my head but there may be more. Anyone know any more? Also, you need ieee1394 support compiled into the kernel. Once I got all the libraries compiled and installed and the kernel compiled with ieee1394 support it was a simple matter of plugging in the 6200. Amazingly it just worked! Your milage will of course vary depending on which distro of Linux you're running as to the ease of getting dependencies installed. I use Gentoo and because of their Portage package manager found it fairly easy to get things compiled, installed, configured, and running. The nice thing I've found about running FireWire from the digital cable box is that since there's no need for an analog to digital conversion the hit of the CPU is very small. On the p3 733 I run Myth on capturing video uses roughly 3% of the CPU. I assume the same is true for capture cards but having never used one I can't say for sure. I can run MythFrontend on Mac OS X and watch live or recorded TV over my network as well as change channels by typing them on the keyboard. I also created a Samba share for the directory Myth save the video to whick allows me to copy recorded progams to other computers. Very slick. Having just gotten my myth box running using analog cable and a pvr 350, I'd like to now bring my digital cable box into the fold. But, I don't want to deal with lirc if at all possible. So I'm wondering about the viability of using firewire. How easy is this and what's the prognosis for supporting channel changing over firewire via myth in the near future? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myth Firewire Support
I just called comcast and they're telling me they only have SA 2000, 2100, 2200 and 3200 - no Motorola. How did you get yours? Let me also just vent, quickly. Yet another reason I hate the @#%$*!!! cable company - all they can do is make things difficult. Apparently I can't even buy my own STB to use. Shocker. On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:56:18 -0500, Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds great. I'm also running gentoo and installed myth by emerging it. What does it mean to compile myth with firewire support - what do I have to do? Also, I have comcast but they've given me a SA 2100 box - can I just request one of these motorola dct6200's? On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:32:03 -0800, Michael Eldridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I picked up a Motorola DCT6200 digital cable box from Comcast. Connected it to my Myth box via FireWire and it works great. By compiling 6200ch.c located in the contrib directory Myth is able to change channels on the 6200. You of course need to compile Myth with ieee1394 support which is dependent on several ieee1394 libraries. libraw1394 and libiec61883 are two libraries you need that I can think of off the top of my head but there may be more. Anyone know any more? Also, you need ieee1394 support compiled into the kernel. Once I got all the libraries compiled and installed and the kernel compiled with ieee1394 support it was a simple matter of plugging in the 6200. Amazingly it just worked! Your milage will of course vary depending on which distro of Linux you're running as to the ease of getting dependencies installed. I use Gentoo and because of their Portage package manager found it fairly easy to get things compiled, installed, configured, and running. The nice thing I've found about running FireWire from the digital cable box is that since there's no need for an analog to digital conversion the hit of the CPU is very small. On the p3 733 I run Myth on capturing video uses roughly 3% of the CPU. I assume the same is true for capture cards but having never used one I can't say for sure. I can run MythFrontend on Mac OS X and watch live or recorded TV over my network as well as change channels by typing them on the keyboard. I also created a Samba share for the directory Myth save the video to whick allows me to copy recorded progams to other computers. Very slick. Having just gotten my myth box running using analog cable and a pvr 350, I'd like to now bring my digital cable box into the fold. But, I don't want to deal with lirc if at all possible. So I'm wondering about the viability of using firewire. How easy is this and what's the prognosis for supporting channel changing over firewire via myth in the near future? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myth Firewire Support
Wierd - I have comcast with an HD set top box and it *IS* a Motorola. I'll look up the model number later emike Michael Haan wrote: I just called comcast and they're telling me they only have SA 2000, 2100, 2200 and 3200 - no Motorola. How did you get yours? Let me also just vent, quickly. Yet another reason I hate the @#%$*!!! cable company - all they can do is make things difficult. Apparently I can't even buy my own STB to use. Shocker. On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:56:18 -0500, Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds great. I'm also running gentoo and installed myth by emerging it. What does it mean to compile myth with firewire support - what do I have to do? Also, I have comcast but they've given me a SA 2100 box - can I just request one of these motorola dct6200's? On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:32:03 -0800, Michael Eldridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I picked up a Motorola DCT6200 digital cable box from Comcast. Connected it to my Myth box via FireWire and it works great. By compiling 6200ch.c located in the contrib directory Myth is able to change channels on the 6200. You of course need to compile Myth with ieee1394 support which is dependent on several ieee1394 libraries. libraw1394 and libiec61883 are two libraries you need that I can think of off the top of my head but there may be more. Anyone know any more? Also, you need ieee1394 support compiled into the kernel. Once I got all the libraries compiled and installed and the kernel compiled with ieee1394 support it was a simple matter of plugging in the 6200. Amazingly it just worked! Your milage will of course vary depending on which distro of Linux you're running as to the ease of getting dependencies installed. I use Gentoo and because of their Portage package manager found it fairly easy to get things compiled, installed, configured, and running. The nice thing I've found about running FireWire from the digital cable box is that since there's no need for an analog to digital conversion the hit of the CPU is very small. On the p3 733 I run Myth on capturing video uses roughly 3% of the CPU. I assume the same is true for capture cards but having never used one I can't say for sure. I can run MythFrontend on Mac OS X and watch live or recorded TV over my network as well as change channels by typing them on the keyboard. I also created a Samba share for the directory Myth save the video to whick allows me to copy recorded progams to other computers. Very slick. Having just gotten my myth box running using analog cable and a pvr 350, I'd like to now bring my digital cable box into the fold. But, I don't want to deal with lirc if at all possible. So I'm wondering about the viability of using firewire. How easy is this and what's the prognosis for supporting channel changing over firewire via myth in the near future? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
