Re: [mythtv-users] Re: MythShyte One unhappy customer (John

2005-07-23 Thread Dewey Smolka
Don't sweat it, Chuck.

We're mostly good people on the list, and we do know who the knuckleheads are.

Thanks for sharing, and don't let one idiot get you down.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: MythShyte One unhappy customer (John

2005-07-22 Thread Kevin Saenz
H the silence is deafening. Looks like Chuck (I have heard of
chuck steak, wot kind of name is chuck?) is a complete dolt ;-) , he
even used a dummy mail address typical coward that he is.

 lmao.
 
 Wow impressive hardware. What distro were you using? so that I won't use it.
 When you installed linux did you select the smp kernel option? What
 window manager did you use? What ripping software were you using to
 rip DVDs?
 
 Because when I rip dvds using the myth interface. I don't go and watch
 a show in myth.
 
 Funny you are comparing 2 different hardware. Why haven't you got MCE
 running on the dual PIII? I have Myth running on XP2800 with 512 meg
 of ram and a fusion HDTV card, with Audigy2 card. I don't have any
 problems with viewing TV, or dripping my dvds or music.
 
 Your problem is laughable you are comparing apples and oranges. If we
 were to value your point of view compare apples with apples.
 
 
  Hi,
 
  Actually I'll throw in some useful facts.  I did have
  a dual PIII-550 system with 2gigs of ram running
  mythtv with a software encoder card.  I found from a
  system perspective that I could get good live tv off
  the following specs:
 
  MPEG4 encoding
  bitrate  4000 (scaled)
  Capture at:  320x240  (?don't remember these settings)
  mpg audio encoding, quality 7
  (no features turned on)
 
  If my system wasn't loaded then I could do live
  TV/pause/etc.  The OSD was a little slow to pop up.
  Screen wise, I would see Mpeg4 artifacts.  Now, please
  bear in mind that this system was also my server
  (file, web, mysql, and development box).  By Nicing
  -19 my mythbackend and making sure i didn't load up
  too many processes things were okay.  However, if I
  tried to do a compile or rip more then 1 DVD at a time
  (all at nice +19) then the system would stutter all
  over the place.  I also noticed that I could run
  RTJPEG with out much cpu loading on this machine...
  but ran into soo many IO  bound issues that it
  effectively strangled the machine so I'd do the
  Mpeg4, just turn down the capture size significantly
  and you should be okay.
 
  I'm now running an MCE150 card in another machine
  doing video capture.  The quality is worlds better
  then the software encoding card in an XP2400
  box...file sizes are much larger, but over all its a
  better experience.
 
  -Chuck
 

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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: MythShyte One unhappy customer (John

2005-07-22 Thread Charles Choukalos
Wow,

What did I miss?  Dolt?  Insulting me?  Dummy email
address?  Just too busy to read the lists that
much Perhaps you should be thinking super
busy, trying to be nice and add back to the
community... as in ... heck you can run a software
encoder at 320x240 and a 1 gig pIII has slightly more
output then a dual pIII 550 (usually the 2nd processor
adds about 70% capacity due to load/store collisions,
etc..).  I'd think similar settings would probably
work  [Keep with me here... I'm sure you can do it]...
but really the hw cards are much nicer picture
quality... blah blah blah...riding on previous scanned
thread... probably worth the extra expense...blah blah
blah and etc. 

As far as all that other krap ola... huh?  I didn't
say... its not relevent really... last time I checked
the list there weren't that many newbie's... etc... 
Thought I was being clear oh well.  Did some one
actually have a real question?  Or just is bored and
trying on flame war 101 cause they're not busy?

I'm happy for you that you've got all this free time. 
Some of us don't. 

-Chuck

--- Kevin Saenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 H the silence is deafening. Looks like Chuck
 (I have heard of
 chuck steak, wot kind of name is chuck?) is a
 complete dolt ;-) , he
 even used a dummy mail address typical coward that
 he is.
 
  lmao.
  
  Wow impressive hardware. What distro were you
 using? so that I won't use it.
  When you installed linux did you select the smp
 kernel option? What
  window manager did you use? What ripping software
 were you using to
  rip DVDs?
  
  Because when I rip dvds using the myth interface.
 I don't go and watch
  a show in myth.
  
  Funny you are comparing 2 different hardware. Why
 haven't you got MCE
  running on the dual PIII? I have Myth running on
 XP2800 with 512 meg
  of ram and a fusion HDTV card, with Audigy2 card.
 I don't have any
  problems with viewing TV, or dripping my dvds or
 music.
  
  Your problem is laughable you are comparing apples
 and oranges. If we
  were to value your point of view compare apples
 with apples.
  
  
   Hi,
  
   Actually I'll throw in some useful facts.  I did
 have
   a dual PIII-550 system with 2gigs of ram running
   mythtv with a software encoder card.  I found
 from a
   system perspective that I could get good live tv
 off
   the following specs:
  
   MPEG4 encoding
   bitrate  4000 (scaled)
   Capture at:  320x240  (?don't remember these
 settings)
   mpg audio encoding, quality 7
   (no features turned on)
  
   If my system wasn't loaded then I could do live
   TV/pause/etc.  The OSD was a little slow to pop
 up.
   Screen wise, I would see Mpeg4 artifacts.  Now,
 please
   bear in mind that this system was also my server
   (file, web, mysql, and development box).  By
 Nicing
   -19 my mythbackend and making sure i didn't load
 up
   too many processes things were okay.  However,
 if I
   tried to do a compile or rip more then 1 DVD at
 a time
   (all at nice +19) then the system would stutter
 all
   over the place.  I also noticed that I could run
   RTJPEG with out much cpu loading on this
 machine...
   but ran into soo many IO  bound issues that it
   effectively strangled the machine so I'd do
 the
   Mpeg4, just turn down the capture size
 significantly
   and you should be okay.
  
   I'm now running an MCE150 card in another
 machine
   doing video capture.  The quality is worlds
 better
   then the software encoding card in an XP2400
   box...file sizes are much larger, but over all
 its a
   better experience.
  
   -Chuck
  
 
 





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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: MythShyte One unhappy customer (John

2005-07-20 Thread Kevin Saenz
lmao.

Wow impressive hardware. What distro were you using? so that I won't use it.
When you installed linux did you select the smp kernel option? What
window manager did you use? What ripping software were you using to
rip DVDs?

Because when I rip dvds using the myth interface. I don't go and watch
a show in myth.

Funny you are comparing 2 different hardware. Why haven't you got MCE
running on the dual PIII? I have Myth running on XP2800 with 512 meg
of ram and a fusion HDTV card, with Audigy2 card. I don't have any
problems with viewing TV, or dripping my dvds or music.

Your problem is laughable you are comparing apples and oranges. If we
were to value your point of view compare apples with apples.


 Hi,
 
 Actually I'll throw in some useful facts.  I did have
 a dual PIII-550 system with 2gigs of ram running
 mythtv with a software encoder card.  I found from a
 system perspective that I could get good live tv off
 the following specs:
 
 MPEG4 encoding
 bitrate  4000 (scaled)
 Capture at:  320x240  (?don't remember these settings)
 mpg audio encoding, quality 7
 (no features turned on)
 
 If my system wasn't loaded then I could do live
 TV/pause/etc.  The OSD was a little slow to pop up.
 Screen wise, I would see Mpeg4 artifacts.  Now, please
 bear in mind that this system was also my server
 (file, web, mysql, and development box).  By Nicing
 -19 my mythbackend and making sure i didn't load up
 too many processes things were okay.  However, if I
 tried to do a compile or rip more then 1 DVD at a time
 (all at nice +19) then the system would stutter all
 over the place.  I also noticed that I could run
 RTJPEG with out much cpu loading on this machine...
 but ran into soo many IO  bound issues that it
 effectively strangled the machine so I'd do the
 Mpeg4, just turn down the capture size significantly
 and you should be okay.
 
 I'm now running an MCE150 card in another machine
 doing video capture.  The quality is worlds better
 then the software encoding card in an XP2400
 box...file sizes are much larger, but over all its a
 better experience.
 
 -Chuck

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[mythtv-users] Re: MythShyte One unhappy customer (John

2005-07-19 Thread Charles Choukalos
Hi,

Actually I'll throw in some useful facts.  I did have
a dual PIII-550 system with 2gigs of ram running
mythtv with a software encoder card.  I found from a
system perspective that I could get good live tv off
the following specs:

MPEG4 encoding
bitrate  4000 (scaled)
Capture at:  320x240  (?don't remember these settings)
mpg audio encoding, quality 7
(no features turned on)

If my system wasn't loaded then I could do live
TV/pause/etc.  The OSD was a little slow to pop up. 
Screen wise, I would see Mpeg4 artifacts.  Now, please
bear in mind that this system was also my server
(file, web, mysql, and development box).  By Nicing
-19 my mythbackend and making sure i didn't load up
too many processes things were okay.  However, if I
tried to do a compile or rip more then 1 DVD at a time
(all at nice +19) then the system would stutter all
over the place.  I also noticed that I could run
RTJPEG with out much cpu loading on this machine...
but ran into soo many IO  bound issues that it
effectively strangled the machine so I'd do the
Mpeg4, just turn down the capture size significantly
and you should be okay.

I'm now running an MCE150 card in another machine
doing video capture.  The quality is worlds better
then the software encoding card in an XP2400
box...file sizes are much larger, but over all its a
better experience. 

-Chuck

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