Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Strange MythBackend troubles
I think I figured out the remote system problem. I wasn't aware that you don't need to run a database on the remote system. Once I turned that off, and re set everything up between the master and slave boxes, the delete problem, and the inability to jump forward and back cleared up. Now, I have a different problem, though. The tuner on the slave backend shows as 'not available' in system status. Any ideas there? both master and slave backends are running. nothing is recording, it's just 'not available' On 12/8/05, Kirk Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 16:49 -0500, Mike Frisch wrote: On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 11:26:44PM -0800, Jeff Clemens wrote: So occasionally, my master backend gets into a strange state. I have a frontend and a backend running on each of 2 boxes. The master backend occasionally gets into a state where the frontend will report that the backend is down when trying some things (like deleting a recording for instance), but other menu items that use the backend work fine.When it's in this state, neither frontend works correctly. /sbin/service mythbackend restart fixes the problem temporarily. I cannot offer much other than to say the same thing happens regularly to me.I cannot predict when it will happen but it happens somewhat frequently.It is as if the frontend loses track of the backend. I think this is what has happened to me on a few occasions, the backend has stopped recording, the status page works still works but the frontend won't play but lists all the shows etc. Again a rcmythbackend restart fixed but I didn't discover exactly why it happened. My system is also having the same problem.It seems to loose theconnection with the backend when I try to delete a recording. Thefrontend will eventualy time out but I have to restart the backend. Here is some more information about my system that might help someone track this problem down. Running on FC4 (2.6.14-1.1644_FC4smp) on a P4 3Gig with 1 Gig ofRAM. Myth 18.1from atrpms about 2 weeks ago. Two capture devices.A PVR-150 and a firewire connection to aDCT-6200 cable box. The system is setup right off of Jarod's How-to fromhttp://www.wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php I'm using JFS for the filesystem that stores the recordings. Here are the ivtv packages that I am using: ivtv.i3861:0.4.0-98.rhfc4.at installed ivtv-firmware-audio.i386 0.0.1-1.atinstalled ivtv-firmware-dec.i386 2.02.023-4.at installed ivtv-firmware-enc.i386 2.04.024-4.atinstalled ivtv-kmdl-2.6.14-1.1644_FC4smp.i6861:0.4.0-98.rhfc4.at installed I hope this information helps. I just built up this new system.Theold system was working without a hitch for almost 2 years. Kirk___ mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Re: Strange MythBackend troubles
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:58:53 -0800 From: Jeff Clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think I figured out the remote system problem. I wasn't aware that you don't need to run a database on the remote system. Once I turned that off, and re set everything up between the master and slave boxes, the delete problem, and the inability to jump forward and back cleared up. So in other words, mysql is no longer running on your slave backend at all? (My SBE [which is also my FE] has mysql still running; it hadn't occurred to me that this is a problem, and in fact I thought that certain SBE/FE settings were stored locally. Where -is- this info stored? Should I disable mysql on my SBE/FE, too? I should point out that I have no problems deleting things...) Now, I have a different problem, though. The tuner on the slave backend shows as 'not available' in system status. Any ideas there? both master and slave backends are running. nothing is recording, it's just 'not available' If I boot my MBE, my SBE/FE always claims that its tuner is not available unless I boot the SBE. I bug-reported this dependency a few weeks ago on this list but it generated no response (except, well, just restart mythbackend on the SBE instead of any idea of whether this was even viewed as a bug at all). This means I have to be careful to boot my SBE only after my MBE is actually up, which complicates recovery from power failures (of which I just had one today, actually), and especially unattended recovery. [And after booting the MBE without rebooting the SBE, certain UI operations work, but some complain that the backend has gone away; if I just okay that popup and continue, the SBE/FE recovers and notices that the MBE is there. But the SBE's tuner is permanently unavailable unless the SBE is restarted.] So have you tried rebooting your SBE and/or restarting mythfrontend? Does this help? P.S. This is all in 0.18.1, not SVN. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Strange MythBackend troubles
hadn't occurred to me that this is a problem, and in fact I thought that certain SBE/FE settings were stored locally. Where -is- this info stored? Should I disable mysql on my SBE/FE, too? I should Everything for all frontends/backends is stored in the single database pointed to by your mysql.txt at all). This means I have to be careful to boot my SBE only after my MBE is actually up, which complicates recovery from Can't speak for 0.18 but I regularly shutdown the master backend and my slave reconnects happily once the master is backup. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Strange MythBackend troubles
Are you sure you guys aren't experiencing the same problems as I am in this thread? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/164194 What do your backend logs say? On 12/9/05, Greg Estabrooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hadn't occurred to me that this is a problem, and in fact I thought that certain SBE/FE settings were stored locally. Where -is- this info stored? Should I disable mysql on my SBE/FE, too? I should Everything for all frontends/backends is stored in the single database pointed to by your mysql.txt at all). This means I have to be careful to boot my SBE only after my MBE is actually up, which complicates recovery from Can't speak for 0.18 but I regularly shutdown the master backend and my slave reconnects happily once the master is backup. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Re: Strange MythBackend troubles
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 21:39:47 -0500 From: Sasha Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you sure you guys aren't experiencing the same problems as I am in this thread? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/164194 Well, I don't think -I- am. The only time I've noticed that the SBE/FE can't talk to the MBE is after I've rebooted the MBE, and that situation clears up for the FE as soon as I've acknowledged the popup that there's a problem. (That popup can come at irritating times, though---like -after- I've already entered all the information for a manual schedule, whereupon it drops all that info on the floor as soon as I've cleared the condition and leaves me with the default page again.) OTOH, the SBE's tuner is permanently unavailable until I reboot the SBE. So this doesn't seem to be the same randomly goes away problem that you're reporting. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Re: Strange MythBackend troubles
-Original Message- On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 16:49 -0500, Mike Frisch wrote: On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 11:26:44PM -0800, Jeff Clemens wrote: So occasionally, my master backend gets into a strange state. I have a frontend and a backend running on each of 2 boxes. The master backend occasionally gets into a state where the frontend will report that the backend is down when trying some things (like deleting a recording for instance), but other menu items that use the backend work fine. When it's in this state, neither frontend works correctly. /sbin/service mythbackend restart fixes the problem temporarily. I cannot offer much other than to say the same thing happens regularly to me. I cannot predict when it will happen but it happens somewhat frequently. It is as if the frontend loses track of the backend. I think this is what has happened to me on a few occasions, the backend has stopped recording, the status page works still works but the frontend won't play but lists all the shows etc. Again a rcmythbackend restart fixed but I didn't discover exactly why it happened. My system is also having the same problem. It seems to loose the connection with the backend when I try to delete a recording. The frontend will eventualy time out but I have to restart the backend. Here is some more information about my system that might help some one track this problem down. Running on FC4 (2.6.14-1.1644_FC4smp) on a P4 3Gig with 1 Gig of RAM. Myth 18.1 from atrpms about 2 weeks ago. Two capture devices. A PVR-150 and a firewire connection to a DCT-6200 cable box. The system is setup right off of Jarod's How-to from http://www.wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php I'm using JFS for the filesystem that stores the recordings. Here are the ivtv packages that I am using: ivtv.i3861:0.4.0-98.rhfc4.at installed ivtv-firmware-audio.i386 0.0.1-1.at installed ivtv-firmware-dec.i386 2.02.023-4.at installed ivtv-firmware-enc.i386 2.04.024-4.at installed ivtv-kmdl-2.6.14-1.1644_FC4smp.i686 1:0.4.0-98.rhfc4.at installed I hope this information helps. I just built up this new system. The old system was working without a hitch for almost 2 years. Kirk ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Re: Strange MythBackend troubles
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 11:26:44PM -0800, Jeff Clemens wrote: So occasionally, my master backend gets into a strange state. I have a frontend and a backend running on each of 2 boxes. The master backend occasionally gets into a state where the frontend will report that the backend is down when trying some things (like deleting a recording for instance), but other menu items that use the backend work fine. When it's in this state, neither frontend works correctly. /sbin/service mythbackend restart fixes the problem temporarily. I cannot offer much other than to say the same thing happens regularly to me. I cannot predict when it will happen but it happens somewhat frequently. It is as if the frontend loses track of the backend. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Strange MythBackend troubles
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 16:49 -0500, Mike Frisch wrote: On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 11:26:44PM -0800, Jeff Clemens wrote: So occasionally, my master backend gets into a strange state. I have a frontend and a backend running on each of 2 boxes. The master backend occasionally gets into a state where the frontend will report that the backend is down when trying some things (like deleting a recording for instance), but other menu items that use the backend work fine. When it's in this state, neither frontend works correctly. /sbin/service mythbackend restart fixes the problem temporarily. I cannot offer much other than to say the same thing happens regularly to me. I cannot predict when it will happen but it happens somewhat frequently. It is as if the frontend loses track of the backend. I think this is what has happened to me on a few occasions, the backend has stopped recording, the status page works still works but the frontend won't play but lists all the shows etc. Again a rcmythbackend restart fixed but I didn't discover exactly why it happened. Druid ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Strange MythBackend troubles
On 12/6/05, Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 16:49 -0500, Mike Frisch wrote: On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 11:26:44PM -0800, Jeff Clemens wrote: So occasionally, my master backend gets into a strange state. I have a frontend and a backend running on each of 2 boxes.The master backend occasionally gets into a state where the frontend will report that the backend is down when trying some things (like deleting a recording for instance), but other menu items that use the backend work fine.When it's in this state, neither frontend works correctly. /sbin/service mythbackend restart fixes the problem temporarily. I cannot offer much other than to say the same thing happens regularly to me.I cannot predict when it will happen but it happens somewhat frequently.It is as if the frontend loses track of the backend.I think this is what has happened to me on a few occasions, the backend has stopped recording, the status page works still works but thefrontend won't play but lists all the shows etc.I think I am experiencing a similar problem. Occaisionally a program will stop recording partway through. It's not always obvious that this has happened, because the frontend appears to work fine. I can still watch recorded programs, including the one that failed, up to the point where it stopped. Everything appears to work, but it will not attempt to record any other programs. What really sends it into a tailspin is trying to delete a program after this has happened. The frontend completely freezes and must be killed along with a restart of the backend to get things back to normal. This problem started about two months ago, but I haven't changed anything that I can think of since I installed 0.18.1 (other than the possible upgrade of the ivtv drivers). Nothing seems to be logged about this in any log that I can find, and I'm completely stumped. --Josh ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
