Re: [mythtv-users] Re: email list vs forum

2005-02-16 Thread Brad Templeton
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:57:34PM -0500, Brad Benson wrote:
 On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 05:24:43 +0100, Robert Krig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Someone here mentioned usenet newsgroups.
  name some advantages of mailing list vs: newsgroup.  Is there even a
  mythtv newsgroup at the moment?
 
 Here's a big one:  I use Comcast for my internet service and they only
 allow a very limited amount of news activity per month and even for
 that I have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get a
 username/password to access their news server.  Now I know that I

Nobody is suggesting the mailing list would go away, if you have trouble
getting your USENET feed.

Anyway, as to the downsides, there are a few, but the upsides are many.
One reason people use mailing lists is they can control who is on the
list (ie. who reads it.)  Not an issue here.

By default newsgroups let anybody post, including spammers, and that's
the only downside people have to them.  You can make robot-moderated
newsgroups however that limit posters the same way mailing lists do.

If your USENET server is far away and slow, E-mail will be faster for
you.

One can also do a newsgroup that people can read, but one must still use
e-mail to post.  More of a pain to post to, but otherwise the best of
both.

Otherwise, newsreaders (especially when local as they should be) are
fast and much more tailored to large threaded discussions, with many more
threading features than typical mailers, killfiles etc.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: email list vs forum

2005-02-16 Thread Andrei Emeltchenko
Hello,
I agree that newsgroup is much better. I just have subscribed and got
more then 100 mails in one day. Too much.
Please let us know about newsgroup address.
Regards,
Andrei
Robert Krig wrote:
Someone here mentioned usenet newsgroups.
I have been thinking about this as well. It seems to me that the best
place for mythtv discussion would be via usenet. I cant really think of
any disadvantages of communicating via newsgroup. Perhaps someone could
name some advantages of mailing list vs: newsgroup.  Is there even a
mythtv newsgroup at the moment?
By the way, one of you mentioned that gmail has a comfortable way of
handling mailing lists. Can anyone recommend a linux mail reader which
handles mailing lists well?
 


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: email list vs forum

2005-02-16 Thread Max Waterman
Robert Krig wrote:
Can anyone recommend a linux mail reader which handles mailing lists well?
Actually, Thunderbird isn't half bad.
I wish it had a 'watch thread' function, as it does with news groups.
Max.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: email list vs forum

2005-02-16 Thread Max Waterman




Brad Templeton wrote:

  On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 11:57:34PM -0500, Brad Benson wrote:
  
  
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 05:24:43 +0100, Robert Krig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Someone here mentioned usenet newsgroups.
name some advantages of mailing list vs: newsgroup.  Is there even a
mythtv newsgroup at the moment?
  

Here's a big one:  I use Comcast for my internet service and they only
allow a very limited amount of news activity per month and even for
that I have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get a
username/password to access their news server.  Now I know that I

  
  
Nobody is suggesting the mailing list would go away, if you have trouble
getting your USENET feed.

Indeed. Actually, there isn't any technological reason why you can't
have all three (email, news, and forum).

It seems easy enough to get a news group together using gmane, if it
can be shown not to have significant amounts of spam.

However, I haven't seen a place that will mirror an email list in a
forum - for free, that is. On the other hand, I do think the
gossamer-thread archive is the best one I've seen
(http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/) - yes, perhaps I
haven't seen it *enough* :|

Max.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: email list vs forum

2005-02-16 Thread Cory Papenfuss
threading support. I'm a 'power' Pine user myself, as I don't like to
touch the mouse when in an e.mail/usenet reading app,
*sniff*... I didn't think there were any of us left *sniff*
:)
-Cory
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* Cory Papenfuss*
* Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student   *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University   *
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: email list vs forum

2005-02-16 Thread myth joe
Let's create a separate forum and email list to discuss the email vs
forum topic.
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[mythtv-users] Re: email list vs forum

2005-02-15 Thread Robert Krig
Someone here mentioned usenet newsgroups.
I have been thinking about this as well. It seems to me that the best
place for mythtv discussion would be via usenet. I cant really think of
any disadvantages of communicating via newsgroup. Perhaps someone could
name some advantages of mailing list vs: newsgroup.  Is there even a
mythtv newsgroup at the moment?

By the way, one of you mentioned that gmail has a comfortable way of
handling mailing lists. Can anyone recommend a linux mail reader which
handles mailing lists well?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: email list vs forum

2005-02-15 Thread Brad Benson
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 05:24:43 +0100, Robert Krig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Someone here mentioned usenet newsgroups.
 I have been thinking about this as well. It seems to me that the best
 place for mythtv discussion would be via usenet. I cant really think of
 any disadvantages of communicating via newsgroup. Perhaps someone could
 name some advantages of mailing list vs: newsgroup.  Is there even a
 mythtv newsgroup at the moment?

Here's a big one:  I use Comcast for my internet service and they only
allow a very limited amount of news activity per month and even for
that I have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get a
username/password to access their news server.  Now I know that I
could go through a third party news service, but for that I have to
pay a monthly fee.  Email is easy to setup, pretty much everyone who
has internet access has it and it's free (excepting the cost of your
connection and you'd need that for newsgroups anyway).  Besides, it
seems that an awful lot of people on this list prefer the mailing
list. Plus if we add a newsgroup that's just one more thing for Isaac
or someone else to have to maintain.  I, for one, would prefer that
the developers are able to spend their time developing myth rather
than maintaining multiple sources of help to cater to the preferences
of everyone who uses it.  Besides, I'd be willing to bet a lot of
money that if we added a newsgroup we'd start seeing posts like A
newsgroup was added for those people, why can't we have a forum too 
'cause that's the method I like better

Brad
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