Re: [mythtv-users] Recording a tape to DVD

2004-12-08 Thread Cecil Watson
Cecil Watson wrote:
Hello,
What I ended up doing is making a fake channel in the channel 
lineup, and binding it to COMPOSITE in on the card.  

How did you accomplish this?
TIA,
Cecil 
Got it working... Never mind.
Thanks
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recording a tape to DVD

2004-12-08 Thread Cecil Watson
Hello,
What I ended up doing is making a fake channel in the channel 
lineup, and binding it to COMPOSITE in on the card.  
How did you accomplish this?
TIA,
Cecil
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recording a tape to DVD

2004-12-06 Thread myth joe
What I have done is create bogus channels for each of my video cards
and mapped these to the aux inputs on the cards.  These inputs then go
to my receiver that, in theory, can switch my VCR so that it talks to
my Mythbox.  Beyond simple tests, I haven't put it into practice.  For
more info, you can search the archives for "mythjoe."  I posted some
details a while back about how to set up Myth to do this.

A one-button "record from aux input" option would be a nice feature, however


On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:13:05 -0500 (EST), Cory Papenfuss
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> >> The biggest problem that I've had with doing this is recording
> >> profiles.  I suspect I'm still a bit ignorant on how they work, but adding
> >> another set of recording profiles certainly didn't do what I was
> >> expecting.  Also, I haven't found how to choose a recording profile in
> >> Manual scheduling, so I have to temporarily make the 'Default' profile
> >> with the settings I want (704x480 @ 4500/6000 right now).
> >>
> >
> > I do exactly the same as you to record VHS.  If you want to change the
> > parameters of the recording (e.g. change the profile), you can first set up
> > the manual record, then go into "recording priorities" or "fix conflicts" 
> > and
> > edit the options there.
> >
> 
> Yes, I figured that out, but it does have a big problem.  You
> can't let it start recording until you've set the parameters like that.
> Basically, it requires you to set a manual recording to start for some
> number of minutes in the future (depending on how many "prerecord" seconds
> you've got set it setup).  Then you'll have to quickly exit and change the
> recording parameters before it starts recording.  Finally, you'll want to
> fire up the tape in a few minutes when it finally does start recording.
> Not exactly graceful or accurate.
> 
> I think what would be good would be the ability to mimic the
> 'Record' button of a VCR.  I don't think it would be too tough with
> facilities already present in MythTV.  I'm thinking of something like
> pulling up the pseudo-channel in the EPG, and it'll have 'Unknown' (since
> there's no listing for your VCR).  If you hit 'R' from there, it'll
> immediately start recording and pull up a 'Manual Recording Options' to
> allow setting the stop time.  Simple, crude, and completely reasonable for
> manual, unscheduled recordings.
> 
> One other question someone might be able to answer along these
> lines.  This bogus channel I've added ("Channel 99 is a 'CoryAUX' lineup)
> is mapped to the Composite4 on my PVR-250.  It shows up in the EPG, but I
> cannot change channels to it.  It would be nice to be able to WatchTV on
> the bogus channel as a monitor while queuing up the tape (even though it's
> a few seconds' time-shifted).  Any thoughts on why it won't let me change
> to this channel?
> 
> 
> 
> -Cory
> 
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> * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University   *
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recording a tape to DVD

2004-12-06 Thread Kevin Kuphal
John Kuhn wrote:

Just a side note, if you configure MythVideo to use the internal 
player (by specifying Internal as the player commandline option), 
wouldn't that let you use the PVR-350 decoder?

I havent tried it but i assume it would then send every type of file 
to the internal decoder.. which isnt going to work for mpeg and the 
likes :)

You can configure it on a per filetype basis by specifying Internal as 
the player only for those types.  You can of course always override any 
of these settings at the individual video level by specifying a custom 
player there.

Kevin
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recording a tape to DVD

2004-12-06 Thread John Kuhn

Just a side note, if you configure MythVideo to use the internal 
player (by specifying Internal as the player commandline option), 
wouldn't that let you use the PVR-350 decoder?

I havent tried it but i assume it would then send every type of file to 
the internal decoder.. which isnt going to work for mpeg and the likes :)

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Re: [mythtv-users] Recording a tape to DVD

2004-12-06 Thread Kevin Kuphal
John Kuhn wrote:

Agreed. The surest way for a feature request to become a feature is to
write the code. :)
I'll try to take a look at the code tonight. Not making any promises,
esp as my C++ skills are a bit rusty.
Do any of the current developers have any comments about a MythVHS
module being added with the purpose of making it as easy as possible
to import VHS tapes into Myth?
Lane
 

I'm not a developer, but I know a few people personally that would 
love the addition of this

what i invision is a smallish preview window of the video (like in 
recorded shows) and then the controls start/stop and name the video.  
inserting into mythvideo would be ideal, but for the pvr-350 folk like 
myself it would be best to insert it into recorded programs (as to 
make use the of the hardware 350 decoder) for playback

just some ideas
Just a side note, if you configure MythVideo to use the internal player 
(by specifying Internal as the player commandline option), wouldn't that 
let you use the PVR-350 decoder?

Kevin
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recording a tape to DVD

2004-12-06 Thread John Kuhn

Agreed. The surest way for a feature request to become a feature is to
write the code. :)
I'll try to take a look at the code tonight. Not making any promises,
esp as my C++ skills are a bit rusty.
Do any of the current developers have any comments about a MythVHS
module being added with the purpose of making it as easy as possible
to import VHS tapes into Myth?
Lane
 

I'm not a developer, but I know a few people personally that would love 
the addition of this

what i invision is a smallish preview window of the video (like in 
recorded shows) and then the controls start/stop and name the video.  
inserting into mythvideo would be ideal, but for the pvr-350 folk like 
myself it would be best to insert it into recorded programs (as to make 
use the of the hardware 350 decoder) for playback

just some ideas
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recording a tape to DVD

2004-12-06 Thread Lane Schwartz
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 10:05:02 -0500, John Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chris wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > I'm working on a Christmas project that will have me use my myth box to
> >record some old family videos (on VHS tapes) to DVD.  I've seen lots of
> >messages on the list about recording shows to DVD, but since this is
> >coming from a tape (and will be manually started & stopped), it seems
> >like my best approach is to use ivtv's test_ioctl to set my PVR250 to
> >DVD-compatible settings and then "cat /dev/video > file.mpg" .  (I can
> >then edit the file in LVE, avidemux, or something similar.)  Involving
> >myth seems like it would be more complicated than it needs to be, as I
> >will require manual control over the recordings and can't take advantage
> >of all the other things that Myth can do automatically.
> >
> > However, I thought I'd first check here to see if anyone had done
> >something similar or had any clever ideas on improving my approach.  Any
> >suggestions are welcome.
> >
> >
> >
> >org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
> >
> >
> 
> would be really nice if someone could make a module exactly for this.
> Myth has all the functionality todo it, just needs a more usefriendly
> method.  a nice Start/stop switch would be ideal with possibly some
> transcoding options.. also giving the process the highest priorty so
> myth doesnt try to steal the tuner for another show..
> 
> I have alot of vhs hi/8 tapes i would love to get into the mythbox

Agreed. The surest way for a feature request to become a feature is to
write the code. :)

I'll try to take a look at the code tonight. Not making any promises,
esp as my C++ skills are a bit rusty.

Do any of the current developers have any comments about a MythVHS
module being added with the purpose of making it as easy as possible
to import VHS tapes into Myth?

Lane

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Re: [mythtv-users] Recording a tape to DVD

2004-12-06 Thread John Kuhn
Chris wrote:
I'm working on a Christmas project that will have me use my myth box to
record some old family videos (on VHS tapes) to DVD.  I've seen lots of
messages on the list about recording shows to DVD, but since this is
coming from a tape (and will be manually started & stopped), it seems
like my best approach is to use ivtv's test_ioctl to set my PVR250 to
DVD-compatible settings and then "cat /dev/video > file.mpg" .  (I can
then edit the file in LVE, avidemux, or something similar.)  Involving
myth seems like it would be more complicated than it needs to be, as I
will require manual control over the recordings and can't take advantage
of all the other things that Myth can do automatically.
However, I thought I'd first check here to see if anyone had done
something similar or had any clever ideas on improving my approach.  Any
suggestions are welcome.
 

org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
 

would be really nice if someone could make a module exactly for this.  
Myth has all the functionality todo it, just needs a more usefriendly 
method.  a nice Start/stop switch would be ideal with possibly some 
transcoding options.. also giving the process the highest priorty so 
myth doesnt try to steal the tuner for another show..

I have alot of vhs hi/8 tapes i would love to get into the mythbox
--John
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recording a tape to DVD

2004-12-06 Thread Cory Papenfuss
The biggest problem that I've had with doing this is recording 
profiles.  I suspect I'm still a bit ignorant on how they work, but adding 
another set of recording profiles certainly didn't do what I was 
expecting.  Also, I haven't found how to choose a recording profile in 
Manual scheduling, so I have to temporarily make the 'Default' profile 
with the settings I want (704x480 @ 4500/6000 right now).

I do exactly the same as you to record VHS.  If you want to change the 
parameters of the recording (e.g. change the profile), you can first set up 
the manual record, then go into "recording priorities" or "fix conflicts" and 
edit the options there.

	Yes, I figured that out, but it does have a big problem.  You 
can't let it start recording until you've set the parameters like that.
Basically, it requires you to set a manual recording to start for some 
number of minutes in the future (depending on how many "prerecord" seconds 
you've got set it setup).  Then you'll have to quickly exit and change the 
recording parameters before it starts recording.  Finally, you'll want to 
fire up the tape in a few minutes when it finally does start recording. 
Not exactly graceful or accurate.

	I think what would be good would be the ability to mimic the 
'Record' button of a VCR.  I don't think it would be too tough with 
facilities already present in MythTV.  I'm thinking of something like 
pulling up the pseudo-channel in the EPG, and it'll have 'Unknown' (since 
there's no listing for your VCR).  If you hit 'R' from there, it'll 
immediately start recording and pull up a 'Manual Recording Options' to 
allow setting the stop time.  Simple, crude, and completely reasonable for 
manual, unscheduled recordings.

	One other question someone might be able to answer along these 
lines.  This bogus channel I've added ("Channel 99 is a 'CoryAUX' lineup) 
is mapped to the Composite4 on my PVR-250.  It shows up in the EPG, but I 
cannot change channels to it.  It would be nice to be able to WatchTV on 
the bogus channel as a monitor while queuing up the tape (even though it's 
a few seconds' time-shifted).  Any thoughts on why it won't let me change 
to this channel?

-Cory
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recording a tape to DVD

2004-12-06 Thread Brian Stults
Cory Papenfuss wrote:
 However, I thought I'd first check here to see if anyone had done
something similar or had any clever ideas on improving my approach.  Any
suggestions are welcome.

I am in exactly the same situation. I have a suitcase full of family
videos, and I plan to convert them to DVD. I have yet to come up with
an efficient and elegant method.
Ditto here (except I'm trying to record some old 8mm camcorder tapes 
onto DVD *in time for* christmas!).

The problem with just doing a cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg is that 
you'll have to set everything up manually (not a big deal).  The bigger 
problem is that you'll have to make sure that mythtv doesn't try to use 
the card while you're recording with it.

What I ended up doing is making a fake channel in the channel 
lineup, and binding it to COMPOSITE in on the card.  Although there's no 
programming information in it, I can schedule a manual recording.  If 
there's 2 hours of footage to tape, I'd set it up to record 2:05 
manually, hit play, and go do something else for awhile.

The biggest problem that I've had with doing this is recording 
profiles.  I suspect I'm still a bit ignorant on how they work, but 
adding another set of recording profiles certainly didn't do what I was 
expecting.  Also, I haven't found how to choose a recording profile in 
Manual scheduling, so I have to temporarily make the 'Default' profile 
with the settings I want (704x480 @ 4500/6000 right now).

I do exactly the same as you to record VHS.  If you want to change the 
parameters of the recording (e.g. change the profile), you can first set 
up the manual record, then go into "recording priorities" or "fix 
conflicts" and edit the options there.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recording a tape to DVD

2004-12-04 Thread Cory Papenfuss
 However, I thought I'd first check here to see if anyone had done
something similar or had any clever ideas on improving my approach.  Any
suggestions are welcome.

I am in exactly the same situation. I have a suitcase full of family
videos, and I plan to convert them to DVD. I have yet to come up with
an efficient and elegant method.
	Ditto here (except I'm trying to record some old 8mm camcorder 
tapes onto DVD *in time for* christmas!).

	The problem with just doing a cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg is that 
you'll have to set everything up manually (not a big deal).  The bigger 
problem is that you'll have to make sure that mythtv doesn't try to use 
the card while you're recording with it.

	What I ended up doing is making a fake channel in the channel 
lineup, and binding it to COMPOSITE in on the card.  Although there's no 
programming information in it, I can schedule a manual recording.  If 
there's 2 hours of footage to tape, I'd set it up to record 2:05 manually, 
hit play, and go do something else for awhile.

	The biggest problem that I've had with doing this is recording 
profiles.  I suspect I'm still a bit ignorant on how they work, but adding 
another set of recording profiles certainly didn't do what I was 
expecting.  Also, I haven't found how to choose a recording profile in 
Manual scheduling, so I have to temporarily make the 'Default' profile 
with the settings I want (704x480 @ 4500/6000 right now).

	Certainly not elegant, but it does work, allows mythtv to set up 
all the settings so I know they're the same for each tape, and it won't 
collide with any other recordings scheduled.

-Cory
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recording a tape to DVD

2004-12-04 Thread Lane Schwartz
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 09:14:54 -0500, Chris
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I'm working on a Christmas project that will have me use my myth box to
> record some old family videos (on VHS tapes) to DVD.  I've seen lots of
> messages on the list about recording shows to DVD, but since this is
> coming from a tape (and will be manually started & stopped), it seems
> like my best approach is to use ivtv's test_ioctl to set my PVR250 to
> DVD-compatible settings and then "cat /dev/video > file.mpg" .  (I can
> then edit the file in LVE, avidemux, or something similar.)  Involving
> myth seems like it would be more complicated than it needs to be, as I
> will require manual control over the recordings and can't take advantage
> of all the other things that Myth can do automatically.
> 
>  However, I thought I'd first check here to see if anyone had done
> something similar or had any clever ideas on improving my approach.  Any
> suggestions are welcome.


I am in exactly the same situation. I have a suitcase full of family
videos, and I plan to convert them to DVD. I have yet to come up with
an efficient and elegant method.

 Please do keep us informed if you come up with a good solution.

Lane


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[mythtv-users] Recording a tape to DVD

2004-12-04 Thread Chris
 I'm working on a Christmas project that will have me use my myth box to
record some old family videos (on VHS tapes) to DVD.  I've seen lots of
messages on the list about recording shows to DVD, but since this is
coming from a tape (and will be manually started & stopped), it seems
like my best approach is to use ivtv's test_ioctl to set my PVR250 to
DVD-compatible settings and then "cat /dev/video > file.mpg" .  (I can
then edit the file in LVE, avidemux, or something similar.)  Involving
myth seems like it would be more complicated than it needs to be, as I
will require manual control over the recordings and can't take advantage
of all the other things that Myth can do automatically.

 However, I thought I'd first check here to see if anyone had done
something similar or had any clever ideas on improving my approach.  Any
suggestions are welcome.


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Fan of video games, anime, and the outdoors
MythTV page:  http://www.istop.com/~kyanos/

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