Re: [mythtv-users] Satelite service recommendation for use w/ MythTV
I don't think those vision cards will work with Direct TV, they look like they are for DVB. D*TV uses DSS or DSB or somthing like that (all I kno is the DVB stuff dosn't work with it, shame since there are bunch of cards for that on the market. On Apr 2, 2005 12:27 AM, Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Voom: > Thanks for letting me know it's dead.. :) > > PCI Tuner Cards: > I found one manufacture that makes terrestrial tuner cards: > > http://www.twinhan.com/product_terrestrial.asp > > Of course, you can't view the encrypted channels. Though there's a ton > of 'illegal' sites selling a "Vision PCI" card that supposedly "tunes > everything with the right driver". Of course, no Linux drivers so it's > not even an option. > > Dish vs. DirecTV: > Seems like Dish is the way to go. DirecTV's site annoyed me, and as > far as I can tell their cheapest plan is $42/mo, and for that same > amount, I can get Dish's top 60 w/ locals + HD or other similar combos > for similar costs. > > As for firewire hacked tuners, I can't seem to find anything, so if > anyone has any info on that, it would be cool. I'd definitely like to > use Myth with satellite, or it's not worth it. > > Cable is of course an option, but they are about 30% more expensive > for the same (digital) programming. :( Anyone know if Adelphia does > firewire out on their digital/HD boxes? > > -Kenneth > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > -- -Griffon ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Satelite service recommendation for use w/ MythTV
Voom: Thanks for letting me know it's dead.. :) PCI Tuner Cards: I found one manufacture that makes terrestrial tuner cards: http://www.twinhan.com/product_terrestrial.asp Of course, you can't view the encrypted channels. Though there's a ton of 'illegal' sites selling a "Vision PCI" card that supposedly "tunes everything with the right driver". Of course, no Linux drivers so it's not even an option. Dish vs. DirecTV: Seems like Dish is the way to go. DirecTV's site annoyed me, and as far as I can tell their cheapest plan is $42/mo, and for that same amount, I can get Dish's top 60 w/ locals + HD or other similar combos for similar costs. As for firewire hacked tuners, I can't seem to find anything, so if anyone has any info on that, it would be cool. I'd definitely like to use Myth with satellite, or it's not worth it. Cable is of course an option, but they are about 30% more expensive for the same (digital) programming. :( Anyone know if Adelphia does firewire out on their digital/HD boxes? -Kenneth ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Satelite service recommendation for use w/ MythTV
Voom is effectively dead, so no joy there. Though there are many strange maneuver's going around it and the satellites. http://www.techdirt.com/search.pl?query=voom DirectTV is ok in the north CA area, but he HD situation is frustrating. Basically your choices are, only have OTA and combine it with D*TV, buy a HD Tivo and then maybe mod it or switch back and fourth. I have the HD Tivo and then on my myth back end I have a regular RCA box so we flip back and fourth mainly using Myth as a Video/DVD/Music player and most HD or live TV is watched on the Tivo (though myth works fine for the non HD stuff). It's something less then ideal. I have never quite gotten why there are no after market capture decoder cards for D*TV that would let a comp work just like the HD Tivo box since it's mainly just doing a raw write for the unscrambled content. Probable something to with lawyers though :p though tying the card to the MAC or however it works. Still seems like somthing should be out there slipping in from offshore. Is anyone actually able to capture HD content via fire wire either via modded box for over comcast? I havn't noticed many posts about that working, only not working. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Satelite service recommendation for use w/ MythTV
If you are going to buy PPV movies, you can now get the Dish Network PPV info from a script, where as DirecTV doesn't have that **YET** oh and you can of course get the dish network PPV script from www.mythppv.com - Original Message - From: "Maverick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "MythTV Users List" Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 6:35 PM Subject: [mythtv-users] Satelite service recommendation for use w/ MythTV I've had a working MythTV box for a couple months now, and so far it's been tuning my basic cable channels that my local cable company has. I've been thinking about switching to DSS for TV cause their lineups have more to offer than my local cable. My main questions are, Dish or DirectTV? My brother (a home theater installer) says go with Dish, it's better...true? Are there any specific hardware boxes I should look for? I'm assuming I'll just tune the DSS box w/ MythTV and use lircd to change channels, but are there any boxes with Firewire worth seeking out instead? -Kenneth ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005 ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Satelite service recommendation for use w/ MythTV
Robert Denier wrote: If nothing else the dish network CEO is a democrat and the directv one is a republican which may be a silly way of choosing, but well given that it is also cheaper.. *shrug* I don't know where you got that info, but Charlie Ergen sure ACTS like a Repub... ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Satelite service recommendation for use w/ MythTV
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 07:54:11PM -0500, Maverick wrote: > Functionality with MythTV is more important than nominal monthly cost, > as long as it's reasonable. I'd like to stay close to $50/mo for > comparable to what I have now plus maybe one premium channel set, like > HBO. I of course can search out pricing, but I just wanted to know > what works (best) with Myth... You might find digital cable (which is even more expensive) better because of the ability to get firewire out from the boxes, which is the only way to record HD signals if they are offered (which they need not be but sometimes are.) No satellite company offers firewire out, but there are companies that sell modded boxes which have firewire out. Of course, there is no "capture card" that can recored HD signals from these boxes because there are no consumer HD capture cards on the market. The only HD capture cards cost many thousands of dollars.Your options are a tuner/demod card which works only with over the air broadcasts or QAM on cable, or a box that can output firewire. Or watching HDTV live. But I can't stand to watch TV live. > > Anyone using Voom w/ MythTV? Is Voom any good? You would not be able to record your Voom HD with Myth, unless you can get a modded box that would do firewire out. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Satelite service recommendation for use w/ MythTV
> The cost difference seems quite large particularly if you have an antenna > to get digital TV and HDTV as I do, and just want a source of the major > non-OTA channels. Dish has a package at $27/month without locals or > $32/month with the locals, and has the channels I pay any attention to -- > news, a&e, SF, Comedy, Discovery, Food and a few others. Functionality with MythTV is more important than nominal monthly cost, as long as it's reasonable. I'd like to stay close to $50/mo for comparable to what I have now plus maybe one premium channel set, like HBO. I of course can search out pricing, but I just wanted to know what works (best) with Myth... HDTV is another consideration, I have an HD compatible TV (DVI input). I know myth needs alot of stuff to support that, but what about capturing HD out from any satellite services, and are there any offered that work with HD capture cards? Anyone using Voom w/ MythTV? Is Voom any good? -Kenneth ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Satelite service recommendation for use w/ MythTV
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 05:51:04PM -0600, Robert Denier wrote: > On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 18:35 -0500, Maverick wrote: > I've no idea about firewire. Personally from what little I've heard if > you didn't want to save a little money on programming then directv is > probably what you want for myth. I have dish and don't regret that. If The cost difference seems quite large particularly if you have an antenna to get digital TV and HDTV as I do, and just want a source of the major non-OTA channels. Dish has a package at $27/month without locals or $32/month with the locals, and has the channels I pay any attention to -- news, a&e, SF, Comedy, Discovery, Food and a few others. Compared to about $45 for Expanded Basic cable (which has a few more channels and of course all the locals) and $42 for DirecTV without locals I think. The $60/year for local channels they typically charge may be worth it for a 2nd access on the local SD channels, or you could of course put up an pvr-150 card for a full extra tuner card, no direct win here. Other alternatives are Expressvu (though not on the west coast and deep south any more) Their basic plan at $25 CDN -- about $23 USD after adding 15% of tax -- does not have many of the specialty channels but they can be added in $5 packs. I am dropping Expressvu though because it only half-works in California now. You need a Canadian billing address of course, which is easy for me because I am Canadian, but there are services which will arrange that for you. Expressvu uses Dish network equipment, so no serial port to change channels. Starchoice has a really cheap mostly-locals at $20 CDN but the more full featured pack is going to be about $40 USD, not too much less than DirecTV. One big difference about the Canadian services is that you get every single local channel in Canada, over 5 time zones. So all network shows (including all U.S. network shows) are on several times a night. So you won't have many conflicts, even with a single tuner, it's like having an extra tuner. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Satelite service recommendation for use w/ MythTV
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 18:35 -0500, Maverick wrote: > I've had a working MythTV box for a couple months now, and so far it's > been tuning my basic cable channels that my local cable company has. > I've been thinking about switching to DSS for TV cause their lineups > have more to offer than my local cable. > > My main questions are, > > Dish or DirectTV? My brother (a home theater installer) says go with > Dish, it's better...true? Dish - requires an IR blaster of similar to change channels - lower monthly cost, at least when I had mine installed. - If you have more than one receiver I think you tend to end up running two cables from the receiver. Maybe 3 with local channels. - Uses actual mpeg2 technology Directv - Direct serial connection possible to change channels on at least some boxes. I have no idea how this works I have dish. - I think they are still more monthly - They have more sports channels I think - Usually one fewer cable from the dish than dish, but only if you have multiple receivers. - I don't think they are quite using standard mpeg2 for their signals. I've no idea about firewire. Personally from what little I've heard if you didn't want to save a little money on programming then directv is probably what you want for myth. I have dish and don't regret that. If nothing else the dish network CEO is a democrat and the directv one is a republican which may be a silly way of choosing, but well given that it is also cheaper.. *shrug* > > Are there any specific hardware boxes I should look for? I'm assuming > I'll just tune the DSS box w/ MythTV and use lircd to change channels, > but are there any boxes with Firewire worth seeking out instead? > > -Kenneth > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > -- Robert Denier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PhD Electrical Engineering (May 2005) University of Missouri-Rolla http://www.finiteinfinity.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Satelite service recommendation for use w/ MythTV
I've had a working MythTV box for a couple months now, and so far it's been tuning my basic cable channels that my local cable company has. I've been thinking about switching to DSS for TV cause their lineups have more to offer than my local cable. My main questions are, Dish or DirectTV? My brother (a home theater installer) says go with Dish, it's better...true? Are there any specific hardware boxes I should look for? I'm assuming I'll just tune the DSS box w/ MythTV and use lircd to change channels, but are there any boxes with Firewire worth seeking out instead? -Kenneth ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
