Re: [mythtv-users] Tennis

2005-08-15 Thread Michael T. Dean

Bruce Markey wrote:


Michael T. Dean wrote:

If I notice that a recording starts X  minutes into the recording 
when it should have started much sooner, I'll check the end and 
either delete it, allowing re-record or watch it (depending on the 
content and whether it looks like the end is "close enough").


I've got to admit, though, that when I'm in TV-watching mode (i.e. 
brain in power-save mode), doing the math to get to the end can be a 
challenge...  OK, let's see.  2 hour 2 minute recording, I'm 
currently at 15 minutes, 12 seconds, so there's about 1 hour 46 
minutes left, and I want to jump to 5 minutes before the end then use 
the normal skips to see how it ends, so I need 1 hour 41 minutes; 
then, I have to go throught the "units" discussion with myself--Myth 
takes minutes unless it's over an hour, in which case, you can use 
minutes for up to 99 or hours then minutes--so type in 141 then hit 
right to jump.  Usually (without the written notes in an e-mail) 
about this time I figure out I made a mistake with the calculations 
in my head and start the process over.  At least the second time, it 
gets easier because the numbers are smaller.  Hmmm, maybe I should do 
a patch for jump to X minutes before end...


Enter a number then press "I". 3-0-I will take you to 30:00 no matter
where you are currently. 1-2-0-I takes you to 1:20:00 (80 minutes) and
not 2:00:00 (120 munutes).

So, if you are at 15:12 and want to check 5 minutes before the end of
2:02:00, press Space to Save Position, 1-5-7-I to jump to 1:57:00,
ESC to Exit without save, and restart to the bookmark at 15:12. 
Variation,

1-5-I to go back to about where you were before. 'nother variation, press
Pause then 3-0-0-I. This will take you to a paused frame a few seconds
before the end. Seek from there if it doesn't show you what you need.


Wow.  Can't wait to get home to try that out...

Thanks.

Mike

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Re: [mythtv-users] Tennis

2005-08-15 Thread Bruce Markey

Michael T. Dean wrote:

Ian Campbell wrote:


On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 09:18 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote:
 


I hit a similar problem once, a sports show pushed the start of a movie
that was to be recorded out by about 30 minutes.  Needless to say the
end of the movie was not recorded which did not go over to well.
  


:-) Ever since the last five minutes of Hitchcock's Rear Window got cut
off I've gotten into the habit of fast-forwarding to the end to check
before we start watching.

I can't think of a worse film to miss the end of... we had to go out and
rent the DVD straight away.
 

Yeah.  If I notice that a recording starts X  minutes into the recording 
when it should have started much sooner, I'll check the end and either 
delete it, allowing re-record or watch it (depending on the content and 
whether it looks like the end is "close enough").


I've got to admit, though, that when I'm in TV-watching mode (i.e. brain 
in power-save mode), doing the math to get to the end can be a 
challenge...  OK, let's see.  2 hour 2 minute recording, I'm currently 
at 15 minutes, 12 seconds, so there's about 1 hour 46 minutes left, and 
I want to jump to 5 minutes before the end then use the normal skips to 
see how it ends, so I need 1 hour 41 minutes; then, I have to go 
throught the "units" discussion with myself--Myth takes minutes unless 
it's over an hour, in which case, you can use minutes for up to 99 or 
hours then minutes--so type in 141 then hit right to jump.  Usually 
(without the written notes in an e-mail) about this time I figure out I 
made a mistake with the calculations in my head and start the process 
over.  At least the second time, it gets easier because the numbers are 
smaller.  Hmmm, maybe I should do a patch for jump to X minutes before 
end...


Enter a number then press "I". 3-0-I will take you to 30:00 no matter
where you are currently. 1-2-0-I takes you to 1:20:00 (80 minutes) and
not 2:00:00 (120 munutes).

So, if you are at 15:12 and want to check 5 minutes before the end of
2:02:00, press Space to Save Position, 1-5-7-I to jump to 1:57:00,
ESC to Exit without save, and restart to the bookmark at 15:12. Variation,
1-5-I to go back to about where you were before. 'nother variation, press
Pause then 3-0-0-I. This will take you to a paused frame a few seconds
before the end. Seek from there if it doesn't show you what you need.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Tennis

2005-08-15 Thread Michael T. Dean

Ian Campbell wrote:


On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 09:18 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote:
 


I hit a similar problem once, a sports show pushed the start of a movie
that was to be recorded out by about 30 minutes.  Needless to say the
end of the movie was not recorded which did not go over to well.
   


:-) Ever since the last five minutes of Hitchcock's Rear Window got cut
off I've gotten into the habit of fast-forwarding to the end to check
before we start watching.

I can't think of a worse film to miss the end of... we had to go out and
rent the DVD straight away.
 

Yeah.  If I notice that a recording starts X  minutes into the recording 
when it should have started much sooner, I'll check the end and either 
delete it, allowing re-record or watch it (depending on the content and 
whether it looks like the end is "close enough").


I've got to admit, though, that when I'm in TV-watching mode (i.e. brain 
in power-save mode), doing the math to get to the end can be a 
challenge...  OK, let's see.  2 hour 2 minute recording, I'm currently 
at 15 minutes, 12 seconds, so there's about 1 hour 46 minutes left, and 
I want to jump to 5 minutes before the end then use the normal skips to 
see how it ends, so I need 1 hour 41 minutes; then, I have to go 
throught the "units" discussion with myself--Myth takes minutes unless 
it's over an hour, in which case, you can use minutes for up to 99 or 
hours then minutes--so type in 141 then hit right to jump.  Usually 
(without the written notes in an e-mail) about this time I figure out I 
made a mistake with the calculations in my head and start the process 
over.  At least the second time, it gets easier because the numbers are 
smaller.  Hmmm, maybe I should do a patch for jump to X minutes before 
end...


Mike

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Re: [mythtv-users] Tennis

2005-08-15 Thread Bruce Markey

Chris Menard wrote:

I always thought it would be nice to have a faster way to set up 'stop
recording X miniuts like' for baseball games.

when ever I set a game to record I to the settings screen and hit the
button 60 times to add an hour to the end.  I dont want this for every
show, just baseball games.


Press ">" 6 times.


I thought a setting fot this data withing the 'recording profiles'
would makes sense.  I would love a 'Sports' profile that added a
configured amount of time.


There is an questionable feature now to add end time for all shows
of a certain category. This is presumably for "Sports events" but
doesn't say so and can only be applied to one category. However, if
you look at Search Lists->Categories and choose "Sports events" then
sort by title, you'll see that most are pre-recorded and don't need
any extra time. Having this turned on could cause confusion and
unwanted conflicts as the endtime is unexpectedly lengthened.

For live sports that may run over, the amount of time you expect to
need is different for different sports. MLS Soccer doesn't run late
and if it does it won't be by more than 5 or 10 minutes. An MLB baseball
game is as likely to go 2 1/2 hours as it is to go 4 1/2 hours.


Am I missing a function/feature somewhere that would do this some how?


What I do is to use the "Multiple sports teams" example from Custom
Record (mythtv-HOWTO section coming soon) to set a "profile" of
recording options for all of the teams I follow in a sport. Currently,
I follow the Marlins and Giants so I set a single rule to record games
if either of these teams are playing. I set 59 minutes end time (so that
it can finish before preroll of a following show), a Recording Profile
with lower res but higher bitrate to handle motion better, and lower
priority so that it grabs a higher card number and leaves the main cards
for the regularly scheduled stuff. I can later add or remove teams from
the list (like why watch the Giants if Bonds is out?) and still have
the same parameters. For NCAA Basketball, I might have Gonzaga|Indiana|
Texas Tech|Duke all with 29 minutes for overtime as college hoops don't
go that far over even if there is one overtime.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Tennis

2005-08-15 Thread Chris Menard
I always thought it would be nice to have a faster way to set up 'stop
recording X miniuts like' for baseball games.

when ever I set a game to record I to the settings screen and hit the
button 60 times to add an hour to the end.  I dont want this for every
show, just baseball games.

I thought a setting fot this data withing the 'recording profiles'
would makes sense.  I would love a 'Sports' profile that added a
configured amount of time.

Am I missing a function/feature somewhere that would do this some how?

-chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Tennis

2005-08-15 Thread Ian Campbell
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 09:18 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote:
> I hit a similar problem once, a sports show pushed the start of a movie
> that was to be recorded out by about 30 minutes.  Needless to say the
> end of the movie was not recorded which did not go over to well.

:-) Ever since the last five minutes of Hitchcock's Rear Window got cut
off I've gotten into the habit of fast-forwarding to the end to check
before we start watching.

I can't think of a worse film to miss the end of... we had to go out and
rent the DVD straight away.

Ian.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Tennis

2005-08-15 Thread Jim Reith

At 09:18 AM 8/15/2005, you wrote:

On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 09:00, Fred Squires wrote:
> On 8/15/05, David Whyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been doing that so I end up getting 4-5 hour recordings where
> > > the game ends up being only 3.5 hours long. Is there a simple way
> > > once they are recorded to prune off the end, after the event is done?
> >
> > only by adding a cut list and then transcoding but that generally
> > makes the video a different format such as MPEG4.
> >
> > Whytey
>
> Not necessarily, if you simply want to not see it just create a cut
> point at the end of the match.  The player will then skip anything
> after the cut point, but you won't save any space that way.

Why not just hit the exit button once the match ends?  I don't think you
have to sit and watch the entire recording all the way to the end.  :)


Well, the most recent situation was a baseball game I was attending and got
home after the extended recording had finished



Are you saving these matches after they are watched?  Probably easier to
watch them and delete them than to schedule additional processing time
and your time to create an edit list and transcode.


I'm hoping to burn them to DVD to send to my daughter away at school



I hit a similar problem once, a sports show pushed the start of a movie
that was to be recorded out by about 30 minutes.  Needless to say the
end of the movie was not recorded which did not go over to well.  But
that is the same problem with a standard VCR if you don't know the show
is being delayed for some reason and there is no way to modify the
recording schedule.


yep, same issue



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Re: [mythtv-users] Tennis

2005-08-15 Thread Scot L. Harris
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 09:00, Fred Squires wrote:
> On 8/15/05, David Whyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been doing that so I end up getting 4-5 hour recordings where
> > > the game ends up being only 3.5 hours long. Is there a simple way
> > > once they are recorded to prune off the end, after the event is done?
> > 
> > only by adding a cut list and then transcoding but that generally
> > makes the video a different format such as MPEG4.
> > 
> > Whytey
> 
> Not necessarily, if you simply want to not see it just create a cut
> point at the end of the match.  The player will then skip anything
> after the cut point, but you won't save any space that way.

Why not just hit the exit button once the match ends?  I don't think you
have to sit and watch the entire recording all the way to the end.  :)

Are you saving these matches after they are watched?  Probably easier to
watch them and delete them than to schedule additional processing time
and your time to create an edit list and transcode.

I hit a similar problem once, a sports show pushed the start of a movie
that was to be recorded out by about 30 minutes.  Needless to say the
end of the movie was not recorded which did not go over to well.  But
that is the same problem with a standard VCR if you don't know the show
is being delayed for some reason and there is no way to modify the
recording schedule.  

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Re: [mythtv-users] Tennis

2005-08-15 Thread Jim Reith

At 09:00 AM 8/15/2005, you wrote:

On 8/15/05, David Whyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 15 Aug 2005 03:10:54 -0700, Jim Reith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Each recording schedule you create you can specify that it records an
> > >extra X minutes.  Also, you can say that for any and every recording
> > >schedule you create you can record extra time.
> > >
> > >You just need to look in the setup and the recording screens.
> > >
> > >Whytey
> >
> > I've been doing that so I end up getting 4-5 hour recordings where
> > the game ends up being only 3.5 hours long. Is there a simple way
> > once they are recorded to prune off the end, after the event is done?
>
> only by adding a cut list and then transcoding but that generally
> makes the video a different format such as MPEG4.
>
> Whytey

Not necessarily, if you simply want to not see it just create a cut
point at the end of the match.  The player will then skip anything
after the cut point, but you won't save any space that way.


and what is the suggested method for manually modifying/creating these
cutlists?



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Re: [mythtv-users] Tennis

2005-08-15 Thread Fred Squires
On 8/15/05, David Whyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 15 Aug 2005 03:10:54 -0700, Jim Reith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Each recording schedule you create you can specify that it records an
> > >extra X minutes.  Also, you can say that for any and every recording
> > >schedule you create you can record extra time.
> > >
> > >You just need to look in the setup and the recording screens.
> > >
> > >Whytey
> >
> > I've been doing that so I end up getting 4-5 hour recordings where
> > the game ends up being only 3.5 hours long. Is there a simple way
> > once they are recorded to prune off the end, after the event is done?
> 
> only by adding a cut list and then transcoding but that generally
> makes the video a different format such as MPEG4.
> 
> Whytey

Not necessarily, if you simply want to not see it just create a cut
point at the end of the match.  The player will then skip anything
after the cut point, but you won't save any space that way.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Tennis

2005-08-15 Thread David Whyte
On 15 Aug 2005 03:10:54 -0700, Jim Reith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Each recording schedule you create you can specify that it records an
> >extra X minutes.  Also, you can say that for any and every recording
> >schedule you create you can record extra time.
> >
> >You just need to look in the setup and the recording screens.
> >
> >Whytey
> 
> I've been doing that so I end up getting 4-5 hour recordings where
> the game ends up being only 3.5 hours long. Is there a simple way
> once they are recorded to prune off the end, after the event is done?

only by adding a cut list and then transcoding but that generally
makes the video a different format such as MPEG4.

Whytey

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Re: [mythtv-users] Tennis

2005-08-15 Thread Jim Reith

Each recording schedule you create you can specify that it records an
extra X minutes.  Also, you can say that for any and every recording
schedule you create you can record extra time.

You just need to look in the setup and the recording screens.

Whytey


I've been doing that so I end up getting 4-5 hour recordings where
the game ends up being only 3.5 hours long. Is there a simple way
once they are recorded to prune off the end, after the event is done?



On 8/15/05, Chuck Vohs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 I had my wife sold on this mythtv...it's up and running and seemed to be
 working great.
 Then I tried recording Tennis, every time it is on, no matter what
 channel, for her.
 Well, today it recorded Tennis, but it cut off the final couple of
 games, I think because the programming for the schedule said it was only
 on for 2 hours.
 Is there an easy way to record sporting goods from the scheduled start
 until they are over?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Tennis

2005-08-14 Thread David Whyte
Each recording schedule you create you can specify that it records an
extra X minutes.  Also, you can say that for any and every recording
schedule you create you can record extra time.

You just need to look in the setup and the recording screens.

Whytey

On 8/15/05, Chuck Vohs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had my wife sold on this mythtv...it's up and running and seemed to be
> working great.
> Then I tried recording Tennis, every time it is on, no matter what
> channel, for her.
> Well, today it recorded Tennis, but it cut off the final couple of
> games, I think because the programming for the schedule said it was only
> on for 2 hours.
> Is there an easy way to record sporting goods from the scheduled start
> until they are over?
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[mythtv-users] Tennis

2005-08-14 Thread Chuck Vohs
I had my wife sold on this mythtv...it's up and running and seemed to be 
working great.
Then I tried recording Tennis, every time it is on, no matter what 
channel, for her.
Well, today it recorded Tennis, but it cut off the final couple of 
games, I think because the programming for the schedule said it was only 
on for 2 hours.
Is there an easy way to record sporting goods from the scheduled start 
until they are over?


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