Re: [mythtv-users] pcHDTV3000 and PVR-150 together?

2005-07-25 Thread Greg Woods
Here is just a note for the record. I am not at all sure what is really
going on here, but in case anyone else runs into it...

I started with a pcHDTV-3000 card, and after the usual initial Myth
newbie struggles, trials, and tribulations, I got it to work. The
problem was I had the wrong card. Since I don't actually have any HD
content right now, what I really needed was a hardware encoder card (but
I didn't know about any of this stuff when I started, it just seemed
nice to buy from a vendor that supports Linux over Windows). Myth
worked, but recording or watching TV took up a lot of CPU with the
software encoding, and I do want to use this machine for things other
than Myth.

So I got myself a PVR-150, and again went through the trials and
tribulations, this time as an ivtv newbie, and got that to work. So far,
so good.

But I thought, why not have two tuners? I could use the PVR-150 most of
the time, and only use the 3000 when I need a second tuner (PiP,
watching while recording, or recording two shows at once). So I put the
3000 card back in, based on previous posts in this thread saying that
people were able to make the two very different tuner cards work
together. 

I never got very far with this, because here is the strange thing: as
soon as I put the pcHDTV-3000 card back in the machine, my Conexant
modem (with Linuxant driver, used primarily for faxing) is no longer
recognized. I have no clue as to why a video capture card would
interfere with a modem card, and this happens even before I enable any
drivers (the 3000 card wasn't being recognized either because there was
no driver set up for it yet). Remove the 3000 card, and the modem works
again. Bizarre. So for now, I am running with just the one PVR-150 card.

--Greg


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Re: [mythtv-users] pcHDTV3000 and PVR-150 together?

2005-07-22 Thread Greg Woods
On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 11:21 -0400, Jim Reith wrote:

> The 150 requires some recent version of ivtv. I was successful with 3.6y
> but there are newer ones. you don't state what version you installed. it
> won't work with the 2.0/stable version

Sorry, I should have given a version number but I'm at work and don't
have the exact info handy. However, I am aware from past threads that I
need the bleeding edge drivers and the stable ones don't work. I got the
most recent one from ivtv.tv (released like a day or two ago). It was
3.7.something . 

It sounds, from the other responses, like I need to find a way to get
the DVB drivers to work with the pcHDTV3000, something I have been
unable to do thus far (I only have analog cable, which I thought made a
difference but now I'm no longer sure of that). May require going to a
2.6.12 kernel, painful for many reasons.  My problem of course is that I
have other things I use this machine for that also have custom-built
kernel modules, like a Linuxant-powered WinModem and VMware, and I can't
go to 2.6.12 until there are modules available from those driver vendors
that work with 2.6.12 and it's a lot of work to convert even when there
are. For now it's probably a better course for me to just remove the
3000 card and try to get the PVR-150 card working without the added
complication of a second card, then try to get the 3000 added in later
when I really need it.

--Greg


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Re: [mythtv-users] pcHDTV3000 and PVR-150 together?

2005-07-22 Thread Jim Reith

At 11:06 AM 7/22/2005, you wrote:

Has anyone actually successfully used a pcHDTV3000 and a PVR-150
together in the same machine? In the end, I'd like to use the PVR-150 as
the main tuner for analog cable, and use the 3000 for OTA HDTV via an
antenna. Can this be done? Right now I've got FC3 with a 2.6.10 kernel.

I originally had the 3000 only and the machine worked mostly OK (when I
didn't mess up the config parameters )-:  I tried adding the PVR-150 and
installing ivtv, but the new card doesn't work. I can configure it in
Myth, but tuning to it produces only a black screen with brief streaks
of color. xawtv segfaults when given /dev/video1.


The 150 requires some recent version of ivtv. I was successful with 3.6y
but there are newer ones. you don't state what version you installed. it
won't work with the 2.0/stable version



I suspect the root of this problem is that I'm trying to use two
different drivers for two similar devices (as far as the kernel is
concerned). They are both /dev/video devices with major number 81, so I
suspect that means I have to find one driver that works for both. I
don't think I can use v4l (cx*) for the 3000 and then try to use ivtv
for the 150. Is there a driver that works for both? If not, I'll
probably remove the 3000 and use the 150 only with ivtv drivers; I
gather that is known to work and I don't have any HD content yet anyway.


Don't know this. I'll leave it to someone else


If I do use two cards, can I use the same video source for both given
that they are both connected to the same cable source, or would I need
to create a second exactly identical video source?


I'm using a 150 and 350 both off the same "cable" source


--Greg


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Re: [mythtv-users] pcHDTV3000 and PVR-150 together?

2005-07-22 Thread Bruce Pennypacker
I've gotten a HD-3000 and a PVR-350 to work properly together, but I'm
using the DVB drivers for the HD-3000, not the v4l ones.  The only
problem I currently have is that the program data doesn't match the
channels on the PVR-350 (see my e-mail from last night for the details).
 Here's the rundown of my setup:

- custom 2.6.12.2 kernel.  Only DVB support that's being built is for
the HD-3000.  This took a bit of playing around to get right since it's
not entirely clear in the kernel menuconfig.  Let me know if you want
details on this.

- ivtv-0.3.7

- mythtv-0.18.1 (although I'm currently playing with the latest sources)

You should be able to use the same video source for both cards, although
I'm not sure if that might cause recording problems for you.  It wasn't
difficult for me to set up seperate video sources for each card, and
that'll help ensure that only HD channels are recorded on the HD-3000
and everything else is recorded on the PVR-350.

-Bruce

Greg Woods wrote:
> Has anyone actually successfully used a pcHDTV3000 and a PVR-150
> together in the same machine? In the end, I'd like to use the PVR-150 as
> the main tuner for analog cable, and use the 3000 for OTA HDTV via an
> antenna. Can this be done? Right now I've got FC3 with a 2.6.10 kernel.
> 
> I originally had the 3000 only and the machine worked mostly OK (when I
> didn't mess up the config parameters )-:  I tried adding the PVR-150 and
> installing ivtv, but the new card doesn't work. I can configure it in
> Myth, but tuning to it produces only a black screen with brief streaks
> of color. xawtv segfaults when given /dev/video1.
> 
> I suspect the root of this problem is that I'm trying to use two
> different drivers for two similar devices (as far as the kernel is
> concerned). They are both /dev/video devices with major number 81, so I
> suspect that means I have to find one driver that works for both. I
> don't think I can use v4l (cx*) for the 3000 and then try to use ivtv
> for the 150. Is there a driver that works for both? If not, I'll
> probably remove the 3000 and use the 150 only with ivtv drivers; I
> gather that is known to work and I don't have any HD content yet anyway.
> 
> If I do use two cards, can I use the same video source for both given
> that they are both connected to the same cable source, or would I need
> to create a second exactly identical video source?
> 
> --Greg
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Re: [mythtv-users] pcHDTV3000 and PVR-150 together?

2005-07-22 Thread Jack Perveiler
I have a pcHDTV-3000 working in a system with a PVR-500 (which is really 2
PVR-150's on 1 card).  I'm using a variation of 2.6.11 (whatever came with
KnoppMyth r5a16) and things work just fine.

Well, maybe "just fine" is too generous as the myth box is still in its
shakedown period but at least I can tune/record on all 3 tuners without any
problems :)

I'm using the DVB driver (again from KnoppMyth, but I believe they just got it
from pcHDTV.com) for the 3000 (works like a charm) and rev 3.6o of the ivtv
drivers for the 500.  

You definitely can't use one driver for both... I doubt a unified driver
exists.  Usually capture problems in the hauppage cards (especially the 150s
and 500s) can be fixed with a different ivtv driver or card firmware rev (the
newest isn't always the best/most stable).  I went through several ivtv
versions and firmware revisions before settling on the one I have now and the
experience was odd enough that I'll be staying with the working one forever now
:)

Try searching through the mythtv-users and ivtv mailing list archives... you'll
find lots of others with similar problems (many already solved).

--Jack

--- Greg Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Has anyone actually successfully used a pcHDTV3000 and a PVR-150
> together in the same machine? In the end, I'd like to use the PVR-150 as
> the main tuner for analog cable, and use the 3000 for OTA HDTV via an
> antenna. Can this be done? Right now I've got FC3 with a 2.6.10 kernel.
> 
> I originally had the 3000 only and the machine worked mostly OK (when I
> didn't mess up the config parameters )-:  I tried adding the PVR-150 and
> installing ivtv, but the new card doesn't work. I can configure it in
> Myth, but tuning to it produces only a black screen with brief streaks
> of color. xawtv segfaults when given /dev/video1.
> 
> I suspect the root of this problem is that I'm trying to use two
> different drivers for two similar devices (as far as the kernel is
> concerned). They are both /dev/video devices with major number 81, so I
> suspect that means I have to find one driver that works for both. I
> don't think I can use v4l (cx*) for the 3000 and then try to use ivtv
> for the 150. Is there a driver that works for both? If not, I'll
> probably remove the 3000 and use the 150 only with ivtv drivers; I
> gather that is known to work and I don't have any HD content yet anyway.
> 
> If I do use two cards, can I use the same video source for both given
> that they are both connected to the same cable source, or would I need
> to create a second exactly identical video source?
> 
> --Greg
> 
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[mythtv-users] pcHDTV3000 and PVR-150 together?

2005-07-22 Thread Greg Woods
Has anyone actually successfully used a pcHDTV3000 and a PVR-150
together in the same machine? In the end, I'd like to use the PVR-150 as
the main tuner for analog cable, and use the 3000 for OTA HDTV via an
antenna. Can this be done? Right now I've got FC3 with a 2.6.10 kernel.

I originally had the 3000 only and the machine worked mostly OK (when I
didn't mess up the config parameters )-:  I tried adding the PVR-150 and
installing ivtv, but the new card doesn't work. I can configure it in
Myth, but tuning to it produces only a black screen with brief streaks
of color. xawtv segfaults when given /dev/video1.

I suspect the root of this problem is that I'm trying to use two
different drivers for two similar devices (as far as the kernel is
concerned). They are both /dev/video devices with major number 81, so I
suspect that means I have to find one driver that works for both. I
don't think I can use v4l (cx*) for the 3000 and then try to use ivtv
for the 150. Is there a driver that works for both? If not, I'll
probably remove the 3000 and use the 150 only with ivtv drivers; I
gather that is known to work and I don't have any HD content yet anyway.

If I do use two cards, can I use the same video source for both given
that they are both connected to the same cable source, or would I need
to create a second exactly identical video source?

--Greg


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