RE: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
I just wanted to thank everyone for all their input. I think I'll be impatient and run to Fry's tonight and pick up a video card with TV out (Wife is away for another 6 hours and I found one with a rebate in the weekly circular). I'm certainly impatiently waiting for progress from John ;) but at worse case I'll have extra components for a 2nd frontend box. Thanks again everyone. Scott ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
All i can say is WOW. If my mythbox has the ability to play more stuff and potentially mame without upgrading hardware, I will be mucho happy!! ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
On 5/2/05, Gabe Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/2/05, John Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We are getting closer with the Xv support for the 350 so we might be able to > > get reasonable performance for these other playback cases. > > Not sure how quickly but I'm working on it in my spare time and its getting > > really close now. > > > > John That's absolutely fantastic news John. Thanks for your and others' continued hard work to help make this a reality. > > Does Xv support then rely on the CPU to do the heavy lifting, or does > the PVR have the ability to do it? My VIA C3 is rated at 1.2 ghz but > is really ~800 mhz. Is Xv not an option for a that type of system? > Excuse my ignorance on these issues. The xv/xvmc driver support takes the burden *off* the CPU and uses the video card/GPU to do the hard work The PVR-350 driver currently does not have xv support and as such cannot do the accelerated resizing/colour space transformations and other 'stuff' that is needed to be able to play back the other video types (typically having sizes that do not match that of the 350 framebuffer) at full speed with no jumping/dropping of frames. Nick ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
Some of the work will be reduced. The main difference is the data transfer size. The YUV updates are ~1/3 of the data required to update a complete RGBA frame and the 350 struggles to update the RGBA frame in a single frame hence the claims from mplayer about systems being to slow since the graphics card is not fast enough. Also many compressed streams have the data in a compressed YUV format so you don't have to generate the complete RGBA data from the yuv data before transferring it to the graphics card. However the 350's YUV format is different from most others so there is still some work to do but it is more of a re-ordering and will use less memory than producing a full RGBA frame so will probably be cheaper and provide better cache hits etc. but until it's all working it will be hard to tell. Also the Xv layer in X should be more efficient than writing through X and copying the data a few times so this should also provide a cpu saving. As to whether this is enough for a via C3 to run well I have no idea yet but hopefully I can get something out in the next week or 2 to try. John > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabe Rubin > Sent: 02 May 2005 20:57 > To: Discussion about mythtv > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD > > On 5/2/05, John Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We are getting closer with the Xv support for the 350 so we might be > able to > > get reasonable performance for these other playback cases. > > Not sure how quickly but I'm working on it in my spare time and its > getting > > really close now. > > > > John > > > Does Xv support then rely on the CPU to do the heavy lifting, or does > the PVR have the ability to do it? My VIA C3 is rated at 1.2 ghz but > is really ~800 mhz. Is Xv not an option for a that type of system? > Excuse my ignorance on these issues. > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
Gabe, You need to look into the unichrome drivers from unichrome.sourceforge.net. These have support for some of the newer via northbridges with S3 graphics. Kevin Gabe Rubin wrote: >On 5/2/05, John Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>We are getting closer with the Xv support for the 350 so we might be able to >>get reasonable performance for these other playback cases. >>Not sure how quickly but I'm working on it in my spare time and its getting >>really close now. >> >>John >> >> > > >Does Xv support then rely on the CPU to do the heavy lifting, or does >the PVR have the ability to do it? My VIA C3 is rated at 1.2 ghz but >is really ~800 mhz. Is Xv not an option for a that type of system? >Excuse my ignorance on these issues. >___ >mythtv-users mailing list >mythtv-users@mythtv.org >http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
On 5/2/05, John Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are getting closer with the Xv support for the 350 so we might be able to > get reasonable performance for these other playback cases. > Not sure how quickly but I'm working on it in my spare time and its getting > really close now. > > John Does Xv support then rely on the CPU to do the heavy lifting, or does the PVR have the ability to do it? My VIA C3 is rated at 1.2 ghz but is really ~800 mhz. Is Xv not an option for a that type of system? Excuse my ignorance on these issues. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
We are getting closer with the Xv support for the 350 so we might be able to get reasonable performance for these other playback cases. Not sure how quickly but I'm working on it in my spare time and its getting really close now. John > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick > Sent: 02 May 2005 20:45 > To: Discussion about mythtv > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD > > On 5/2/05, Scott Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Scott, > > > > > > Which driver you use is dictated by the video card being > > > used, and the capabilities of the driver for that card. You > > > will not use all of these drivers (that xine supports) with > > > all cards. I would suggest using x11 and xshm for > > > non-acclerated cards, and xv for accelerated cards (or xvmc > > > if the driver supports that). > > > > > > Having read this thread, I am assuming that your video card > > > does not have TV-Out support, or that it does and you are not > > > happy with it.. > > > When I originally installed my system last year after months > > > of lurking in the various mailing lists, I tried to get > > > everything working over the PVR-350 card. Live TV and > > > recorded program played perfectly (in terms of quality, but > > > not system speed), but I had problems playing back DVDs and > > > virtually all DivX and XVid video files with MythVideo > > > because of the missing acceleration in the ivtv X driver.. > > > > > > My other big problem was the the TVout support for my video > > > card (integrated Radeon 9100IGP) was nonexistent except for a > > > binary hack a determined user had come up with for an old > > > version of the driver. > > > Couple of weeks back ATI released their latest driver and > > > another hack was crafted to again get working TVout for the > > > 9100 card, so I gave it a whirl. > > > > > > I decided to bite the bullet finally and go for *what works today*. > > > Using the TVout of the video card and not the PVR-350 (on a > > > celeron D 2.4G/512MB system) everything came alive after I > > > had moved away from the ivtv non-accelerated X driver. > > > Playback of video and seeking within myth is now *much* > > > snappier. The system actually responds instantly unlike > > > before when seeking ahead in recordings could take 30s or > > > more. Mythvideo now plays all videos perfectly (using xv and > > > alsa) and no problems yet with mythDVD either. > > > > > > This has also finally got the WAF sorted out - as a nerd is > > > was cool to be able to use the 350 for all output, but as > > > >50% of the time the system is used for non > > > live/recorded-mythtv is was severely hampering its > > > usefulness. Now I have a fully functioning myth box that does > > > everything I want it to and no more nagging *why doesn't this > > > work* ... > > > > > > I'm still hoping the ivtv X driver will get xv support at > > > some point in the future after Hauppauge reveal more of their > > > secrets and will get it going again if this is the case, but > > > at the moment I am more happy to have everything working and > > > no more stress *trying* to get it to work using solely the 350 output. > > > > > > The 'third way' is to run mythtv over your video card's > > > tv-out and employ the decoder on the 350 for live tv and > > > recordings via another connection to your TV\VCR. This will > > > then give top notch playback quality of TV through the 350, > > > and accelerated playback of everything else via your video card. > > > > > > HTH, > > > Nick > > > > Nick, this is awesome info, thanks. You are 100% correct that my video > > card doesn't not have a TV out connector. I've been stubbornly trying > to > > get all output to work from the PVR-350. > > > > So I understand correctly, are you saying in your configuration you > watch > > all > > live tv via the PVR-350 (in and out) and then any recorded programs use > the > > non-PVR-350 video card? > > Scott, > > Current setup just uses the onboard TV-out for everything whilst I > sort out all my AV connections and decide what I think of the quality > compared to the 350. I'm also researching using a VGA to SCART adaptor > to get high quality RGB output from the VGA port instead of using the > S-Video TV out. > > Most importanly, at the moment, everything works and although the 350 > card was pricier than the 250, it offers excellent quality MPEG > decoding as well as the encoding, so I don't feel I've wasted money - > for a TV only system with slower and cooler CPU its the perfect card. > > Nick > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
How are people watching non mpeg2 media through their pvr-350s? I assume I can't as I am using a via c3 processor, and this will never be an option for me. However, I am going to be buying a HD set and want to build another frontend that will handle everything. Is my best bet for that not to use a 350, and just get a nice vid card that handles dvi or component out to the monitor? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
On 5/2/05, Scott Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Scott, > > > > Which driver you use is dictated by the video card being > > used, and the capabilities of the driver for that card. You > > will not use all of these drivers (that xine supports) with > > all cards. I would suggest using x11 and xshm for > > non-acclerated cards, and xv for accelerated cards (or xvmc > > if the driver supports that). > > > > Having read this thread, I am assuming that your video card > > does not have TV-Out support, or that it does and you are not > > happy with it.. > > When I originally installed my system last year after months > > of lurking in the various mailing lists, I tried to get > > everything working over the PVR-350 card. Live TV and > > recorded program played perfectly (in terms of quality, but > > not system speed), but I had problems playing back DVDs and > > virtually all DivX and XVid video files with MythVideo > > because of the missing acceleration in the ivtv X driver.. > > > > My other big problem was the the TVout support for my video > > card (integrated Radeon 9100IGP) was nonexistent except for a > > binary hack a determined user had come up with for an old > > version of the driver. > > Couple of weeks back ATI released their latest driver and > > another hack was crafted to again get working TVout for the > > 9100 card, so I gave it a whirl. > > > > I decided to bite the bullet finally and go for *what works today*. > > Using the TVout of the video card and not the PVR-350 (on a > > celeron D 2.4G/512MB system) everything came alive after I > > had moved away from the ivtv non-accelerated X driver. > > Playback of video and seeking within myth is now *much* > > snappier. The system actually responds instantly unlike > > before when seeking ahead in recordings could take 30s or > > more. Mythvideo now plays all videos perfectly (using xv and > > alsa) and no problems yet with mythDVD either. > > > > This has also finally got the WAF sorted out - as a nerd is > > was cool to be able to use the 350 for all output, but as > > >50% of the time the system is used for non > > live/recorded-mythtv is was severely hampering its > > usefulness. Now I have a fully functioning myth box that does > > everything I want it to and no more nagging *why doesn't this > > work* ... > > > > I'm still hoping the ivtv X driver will get xv support at > > some point in the future after Hauppauge reveal more of their > > secrets and will get it going again if this is the case, but > > at the moment I am more happy to have everything working and > > no more stress *trying* to get it to work using solely the 350 output. > > > > The 'third way' is to run mythtv over your video card's > > tv-out and employ the decoder on the 350 for live tv and > > recordings via another connection to your TV\VCR. This will > > then give top notch playback quality of TV through the 350, > > and accelerated playback of everything else via your video card. > > > > HTH, > > Nick > > Nick, this is awesome info, thanks. You are 100% correct that my video > card doesn't not have a TV out connector. I've been stubbornly trying to > get all output to work from the PVR-350. > > So I understand correctly, are you saying in your configuration you watch > all > live tv via the PVR-350 (in and out) and then any recorded programs use the > non-PVR-350 video card? Scott, Current setup just uses the onboard TV-out for everything whilst I sort out all my AV connections and decide what I think of the quality compared to the 350. I'm also researching using a VGA to SCART adaptor to get high quality RGB output from the VGA port instead of using the S-Video TV out. Most importanly, at the moment, everything works and although the 350 card was pricier than the 250, it offers excellent quality MPEG decoding as well as the encoding, so I don't feel I've wasted money - for a TV only system with slower and cooler CPU its the perfect card. Nick ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nick writes: > The 'third way' is to run mythtv over your video card's > tv-out and employ the decoder on the 350 for live tv and > recordings via another connection to your TV\VCR. This will > then give top notch playback quality of TV through the 350, > and accelerated playback of everything else via your video card. FWIW, that's what I've done. Seeing as I googled without luck, then mailed here and garnered not a single followup ;), I presume it might be useful to post the details -- see http://taint.org/wk/PvrDoubleTvOut . Slight mod from what Nick describes, btw: I use the PVR-350 for the main MythTV interface, live TV and TV recordings, but the onboard video solely for non-TV playback of AVI files and other non-MPEG1/2 video. - --j. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh CVS iD8DBQFCdn5EMJF5cimLx9ARAu5iAJ45ZFb4nNSXMw+ooGnTi9byxYurNwCeOjiC Xj+IZjFv2OxCWP32x+CE8yI= =2jTi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
> > Scott, > > Which driver you use is dictated by the video card being > used, and the capabilities of the driver for that card. You > will not use all of these drivers (that xine supports) with > all cards. I would suggest using x11 and xshm for > non-acclerated cards, and xv for accelerated cards (or xvmc > if the driver supports that). > > Having read this thread, I am assuming that your video card > does not have TV-Out support, or that it does and you are not > happy with it.. > When I originally installed my system last year after months > of lurking in the various mailing lists, I tried to get > everything working over the PVR-350 card. Live TV and > recorded program played perfectly (in terms of quality, but > not system speed), but I had problems playing back DVDs and > virtually all DivX and XVid video files with MythVideo > because of the missing acceleration in the ivtv X driver.. > > My other big problem was the the TVout support for my video > card (integrated Radeon 9100IGP) was nonexistent except for a > binary hack a determined user had come up with for an old > version of the driver. > Couple of weeks back ATI released their latest driver and > another hack was crafted to again get working TVout for the > 9100 card, so I gave it a whirl. > > I decided to bite the bullet finally and go for *what works today*. > Using the TVout of the video card and not the PVR-350 (on a > celeron D 2.4G/512MB system) everything came alive after I > had moved away from the ivtv non-accelerated X driver. > Playback of video and seeking within myth is now *much* > snappier. The system actually responds instantly unlike > before when seeking ahead in recordings could take 30s or > more. Mythvideo now plays all videos perfectly (using xv and > alsa) and no problems yet with mythDVD either. > > This has also finally got the WAF sorted out - as a nerd is > was cool to be able to use the 350 for all output, but as > >50% of the time the system is used for non > live/recorded-mythtv is was severely hampering its > usefulness. Now I have a fully functioning myth box that does > everything I want it to and no more nagging *why doesn't this > work* ... > > I'm still hoping the ivtv X driver will get xv support at > some point in the future after Hauppauge reveal more of their > secrets and will get it going again if this is the case, but > at the moment I am more happy to have everything working and > no more stress *trying* to get it to work using solely the 350 output. > > The 'third way' is to run mythtv over your video card's > tv-out and employ the decoder on the 350 for live tv and > recordings via another connection to your TV\VCR. This will > then give top notch playback quality of TV through the 350, > and accelerated playback of everything else via your video card. > > HTH, > Nick Nick, this is awesome info, thanks. You are 100% correct that my video card doesn't not have a TV out connector. I've been stubbornly trying to get all output to work from the PVR-350. So I understand correctly, are you saying in your configuration you watch all live tv via the PVR-350 (in and out) and then any recorded programs use the non-PVR-350 video card? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
On 5/2/05, Scott Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I purchased a new motherboard/cpu combo upgrading the AMD > > Athlon 1800+ to an Intel P4 2.4GHz. Spent about 4 hours > > getting it all working again, verifying that I had basic > > MythTV system working before even trying the DVD. This > > morning I tried the DVD and still the same error with mplayer > > "YOUR SYSTEM IS TOO SLOW TO PLAY THIS". Er. I'm using a > > PVR-350 and of course don't have xvideo available, so I've > > got to use -vo x11 on my mplayer. I'm trying ogle now, and > > while it hasn't completely died like mplayer there are > > obvious frame drops. CPU load is fairly low, .5-.66, I would > > have expected it to be a lot more considering the cpu is > > having to do all the decoding. > > > > Can anyone offer any recommendations? I'm so close to having > > an awesome mythtv system, one that even the wife approves of, > > the only thing lacking is DVD playback. > > > > Well I've spent some more time playing with various settings on > Xine and mplayer without much luck. Xine certainly seems to be > working the best but last night I ripped a dvd and then let Xine > play it and then went to bed. I awoke to the usual "too many frames" > dropped from Xine. > > I'm using this command for xine: > xine -f -I -V xshm --audio-driver alsa --no-logo --no-splash dvd:// > > One thing that was recommended was to try different -V settings. > >From my xine --help I see I have these installed: > > -V, --video-driver Select video driver by id. Available drivers: >dxr3 aadxr3 xv opengl caca xshm aa none xxmc > sdl vidix vidixfb fb xvmc > > How does one know which is the best choice for video driver aside from just > trying them all? > Is there a matrix some place? Scott, Which driver you use is dictated by the video card being used, and the capabilities of the driver for that card. You will not use all of these drivers (that xine supports) with all cards. I would suggest using x11 and xshm for non-acclerated cards, and xv for accelerated cards (or xvmc if the driver supports that). Having read this thread, I am assuming that your video card does not have TV-Out support, or that it does and you are not happy with it.. When I originally installed my system last year after months of lurking in the various mailing lists, I tried to get everything working over the PVR-350 card. Live TV and recorded program played perfectly (in terms of quality, but not system speed), but I had problems playing back DVDs and virtually all DivX and XVid video files with MythVideo because of the missing acceleration in the ivtv X driver.. My other big problem was the the TVout support for my video card (integrated Radeon 9100IGP) was nonexistent except for a binary hack a determined user had come up with for an old version of the driver. Couple of weeks back ATI released their latest driver and another hack was crafted to again get working TVout for the 9100 card, so I gave it a whirl. I decided to bite the bullet finally and go for *what works today*. Using the TVout of the video card and not the PVR-350 (on a celeron D 2.4G/512MB system) everything came alive after I had moved away from the ivtv non-accelerated X driver. Playback of video and seeking within myth is now *much* snappier. The system actually responds instantly unlike before when seeking ahead in recordings could take 30s or more. Mythvideo now plays all videos perfectly (using xv and alsa) and no problems yet with mythDVD either. This has also finally got the WAF sorted out - as a nerd is was cool to be able to use the 350 for all output, but as >50% of the time the system is used for non live/recorded-mythtv is was severely hampering its usefulness. Now I have a fully functioning myth box that does everything I want it to and no more nagging *why doesn't this work* ... I'm still hoping the ivtv X driver will get xv support at some point in the future after Hauppauge reveal more of their secrets and will get it going again if this is the case, but at the moment I am more happy to have everything working and no more stress *trying* to get it to work using solely the 350 output. The 'third way' is to run mythtv over your video card's tv-out and employ the decoder on the 350 for live tv and recordings via another connection to your TV\VCR. This will then give top notch playback quality of TV through the 350, and accelerated playback of everything else via your video card. HTH, Nick ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
> > I purchased a new motherboard/cpu combo upgrading the AMD > Athlon 1800+ to an Intel P4 2.4GHz. Spent about 4 hours > getting it all working again, verifying that I had basic > MythTV system working before even trying the DVD. This > morning I tried the DVD and still the same error with mplayer > "YOUR SYSTEM IS TOO SLOW TO PLAY THIS". Er. I'm using a > PVR-350 and of course don't have xvideo available, so I've > got to use -vo x11 on my mplayer. I'm trying ogle now, and > while it hasn't completely died like mplayer there are > obvious frame drops. CPU load is fairly low, .5-.66, I would > have expected it to be a lot more considering the cpu is > having to do all the decoding. > > Can anyone offer any recommendations? I'm so close to having > an awesome mythtv system, one that even the wife approves of, > the only thing lacking is DVD playback. > Well I've spent some more time playing with various settings on Xine and mplayer without much luck. Xine certainly seems to be working the best but last night I ripped a dvd and then let Xine play it and then went to bed. I awoke to the usual "too many frames" dropped from Xine. I'm using this command for xine: xine -f -I -V xshm --audio-driver alsa --no-logo --no-splash dvd:// One thing that was recommended was to try different -V settings. >From my xine --help I see I have these installed: -V, --video-driver Select video driver by id. Available drivers: dxr3 aadxr3 xv opengl caca xshm aa none xxmc sdl vidix vidixfb fb xvmc How does one know which is the best choice for video driver aside from just trying them all? Is there a matrix some place? Thanks for everyone's help. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
> > Hmm... you should probably do the following: > > hdparm -c3 -u1 /dev/hdc > > That'll set unmaskirq to on and set IO_support to 32-bit. > That'll help. I added this to my rc.local so it will set it each time, thanks. > Also, hook up a monitor and see if mplayer still complains. > That'll narrow down the problem to whether it's the 350, > mplayer, or the drive. > Via a monitor mplayer, xine and ogle all look great. Sound doesn't get out of sync with mplayer. I've used the following commands to test both from the 350 and from the monitor: ogle -u cli /dev/dvd mplayer dvd:// -fs -zoom -vo x11 xine -f -I -V xshm --audio-driver alsa --no-logo --no-splash dvd:// I've tried various settings on mplayer and xine (still messing with Xine a bit as I've not used it as much). With mplayer I've tried -ao oss etc, -ni, and of course framedrop, which helps but then you get dropped frames. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
>
> If you think Fry's is dangerous I would recommend you avoid
> any Apple Store OS release party. Having just walked away
> with a new G5, a new 12" PowerBook, and fresh copies of Tiger
> I'm wondering where I left my sanity last Friday. On the
> other hand, it's been a hell of a fun geek-out-weekend.
To try and fix this whole mess of not having xvideo support for
the pvr-350, I was willing to go to Costo and get the $1000 LCD
Tv that one of the other members recommended ;) We all know
who put a stop to that.
>
> Regarding your play back issue, most likely I would have to
> say it's a DMA problem. You've got plenty of CPU to do what
> you want to and in fact I use both xine and mplayer with a
> 16x DVD drive to get flawless playback.
My DVD drive is considerably older, maybe only 4-6X. I wonder
if that would hurt?
>
> Another suggestion once you're 100% sure DMA isn't the issue.
> You might try also to play a DVD w/o any audio just to see
> what happens.
> Maybe the problem is more an issue with the way you're
> decoding the sound which is causing mplayer to drop frames to
> keep the video and audio in sync.
Playing without audio (-nosound) produced a similar picture to
all the other players, but the audio doesn't go out of sync now ;)
And there also isn't a single error, so you might be on to something
with the audio killing it.
>
> Lastly, try using mplayer and playing a DVD from a terminal
> outside of MythTV. The nice verbose output of mplayer is
> great for understanding the problem. I'm sure no one would
> mind you pasting that to the list.
>
Always use this trick when debugging, it extremely useful.
Below is my log file from my last mplayer attempt. The
audio goes out of sync after about 5 minutes and I get this error
Ogle and xine do better (especially ogle) but there is still some
frame dropping.
mplayer dvd:// -fs -zoom -vo x11
MPlayer 1.0pre7-3.4.3 (C) 2000-2005 MPlayer Team
CPU: Intel Pentium 4/Xeon/Celeron Northwood (Family: 8, Stepping: 3)
Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes
CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied
Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system
startupscripts.
Opening joystick device /dev/input/js0
Can't open joystick device /dev/input/js0 : No such file or directory
Can't init input joystick
Setting up LIRC support...
mplayer: could not open config files /home/sharris/.lircrc and /etc/lircrc
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to read LIRC config file ~/.lircrc.
You will not be able to use your remote control.
Playing dvd://.
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
Reading disc structure, please wait...
There are 17 titles on this DVD.
There are 21 chapters in this DVD title.
There are 1 angles in this DVD title.
libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys
libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x012f
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0x04ba
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB at 0x052a
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB at 0x053f
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_1.VOB at 0x14ec
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_0.VOB at 0x2245
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_1.VOB at 0x00011a67
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_05_1.VOB at 0x001d4e2a
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_1.VOB at 0x001fddc1
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Found 6 VTS's
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
DVD successfully opened.
MPEG-PS file format detected.
VIDEO: MPEG2 720x480 (aspect 2) 29.970 fps 9800.0 kbps (1225.0 kbyte/s)
==
Opening audio decoder: [liba52] AC3 decoding with liba52
Using SSE optimized IMDCT transform
AC3: 5.1 (3f+2r+lfe) 48000 Hz 448.0 kbit/s
Using MMX optimized resampler
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 448.0 kbit/29.17% (ratio: 56000->192000)
Selected audio codec: [a52] afm:liba52 (AC3-liba52)
==
vo: X11 running at 720x480 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local display)
==
Opening video decoder: [mpegpes] MPEG 1/2 Video passthrough
VDec: vo config request - 720 x 480 (preferred csp: Mpeg PES)
Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...
Opening video filter: [scale]
The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.
VDecoder init failed :(
Opening video decoder: [libmpeg2] MPEG 1/2 Video decoder libmpeg2-v0.4.0b
Selected video codec: [mpeg12] vfm:libmpeg2 (MPEG-1 or 2 (libmpeg2)
RE: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 11:26 -0700, Scott Harris wrote: > Definitely have DMA on, on dvd and all HDDs. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] sharris]# /sbin/hdparm /dev/hdc > > /dev/hdc: > HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument > IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) > unmaskirq= 0 (off) > using_dma= 1 (on) > keepsettings = 0 (off) > readonly = 0 (off) > readahead= 256 (on) > HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument Hmm... you should probably do the following: hdparm -c3 -u1 /dev/hdc That'll set unmaskirq to on and set IO_support to 32-bit. That'll help. Also, hook up a monitor and see if mplayer still complains. That'll narrow down the problem to whether it's the 350, mplayer, or the drive. -I ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
On 5/1/05, Scott Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I purchased a new motherboard/cpu combo upgrading the AMD Athlon 1800+ to an Intel P4 2.4GHz. Spent about 4 hours getting it all working again, verifying that I had basic MythTV system working before even trying the DVD. This morning I tried the DVD and still the same error with mplayer "YOUR SYSTEM IS TOO SLOW TO PLAY THIS". Er. I'm using a PVR-350 and of course don't have xvideo available, so I've got to use -vo x11 on my mplayer. I'm trying ogle now, and while it hasn't completely died like mplayer there are obvious frame drops. CPU load is fairly low, .5-.66, I would have expected it to be a lot more considering the cpu is having to do all the decoding. If you think Fry's is dangerous I would recommend you avoid any Apple Store OS release party. Having just walked away with a new G5, a new 12" PowerBook, and fresh copies of Tiger I'm wondering where I left my sanity last Friday. On the other hand, it's been a hell of a fun geek-out-weekend. Regarding your play back issue, most likely I would have to say it's a DMA problem. You've got plenty of CPU to do what you want to and in fact I use both xine and mplayer with a 16x DVD drive to get flawless playback. Another suggestion once you're 100% sure DMA isn't the issue. You might try also to play a DVD w/o any audio just to see what happens. Maybe the problem is more an issue with the way you're decoding the sound which is causing mplayer to drop frames to keep the video and audio in sync. Lastly, try using mplayer and playing a DVD from a terminal outside of MythTV. The nice verbose output of mplayer is great for understanding the problem. I'm sure no one would mind you pasting that to the list. -- Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> AIM: BlueCame1 ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
> is having to do all the decoding. > > > > Can anyone offer any recommendations? I'm so close to having an > > awesome mythtv system, one that even the wife approves of, > the only thing lacking is DVD playback. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Scott > > Have you tried using Xine? Also, is DMA active on your DVD-ROM? > > Working on installing xine now, but the last time I tried with the older CPU it was just as unreliable as mplayer. Definitely have DMA on, on dvd and all HDDs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] sharris]# /sbin/hdparm /dev/hdc /dev/hdc: HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) unmaskirq= 0 (off) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 256 (on) HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Full system/CPU upgrade and still no DVD
On 5/1/05, Scott Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm just livid. The wife is away and inspired by everyone else's WAF > comments and the fact that Chris Kennedy has done an awesome > job lately of getting all the bugs worked out of the ivtv driver so there are > no more freezes.Fry's is 3 miles from my house, a > dangerous combo. > > I purchased a new motherboard/cpu combo upgrading the AMD Athlon 1800+ to an > Intel P4 2.4GHz. Spent about 4 hours getting it all > working again, verifying that I had basic MythTV system working before even > trying the DVD. This morning I tried the DVD and still > the same error with mplayer "YOUR SYSTEM IS TOO SLOW TO PLAY THIS". Er. > I'm using a PVR-350 and of course don't have xvideo > available, so I've got to use -vo x11 on my mplayer. I'm trying ogle now, > and while it hasn't completely died like mplayer there > are obvious frame drops. CPU load is fairly low, .5-.66, I would have > expected it to be a lot more considering the cpu is having to > do all the decoding. > > Can anyone offer any recommendations? I'm so close to having an awesome > mythtv system, one that even the wife approves of, the only > thing lacking is DVD playback. > > Thanks, > > Scott Have you tried using Xine? Also, is DMA active on your DVD-ROM? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
