Re: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ?
At 09:36 AM 6/22/2005, Nick wrote: On 6/22/05, Joe Barnhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This rant thread is about Jerod's guide, which is specific to Fedora > Core. You are using KnoppMyth. You're also using a version of > KnoppMyth which is not the very latest. The current release is R5A16.1 > which fixes numerous small problems. You should visit the forum at > http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2 to discuss KnoppMyth-specific problems and > fixes. Cecil and the others there are incredibly helpful. http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/ is also a good resource for KnoppMyth users. yes, which I've used extensively but it too isn't complete and this looked like a likely place (pointed to from those forums) to ask questions. I guess I just stumbled into a rant in a bad time. I still feel that we are mostly working with the same core apps (apps, not the OS) and the discussion is relevant. If the apps have different configuration formats/options based on OS flavor beyond location of files, then things have diverged far worse than I would expect. I've also been using Linux professionally back to Slackware in the 1993 timeframe, as well as RedHat and MkLinux and chose KnoppMyth as a reasonable place to start for this with much of the configuration being automated. hell, I've done graphic board drivers for X10.4 and up in my professional life but that doesn't mean I need to config something like this from first principles. Eventually I'll customize the sources and contribute back but I would think people would want feedback of HowTo inconsistencies, in fact, many of the files I've downloaded and threads, ask for it. Jim ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ?
On 6/22/05, Joe Barnhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This rant thread is about Jerod's guide, which is specific to Fedora > Core. You are using KnoppMyth. You're also using a version of > KnoppMyth which is not the very latest. The current release is R5A16.1 > which fixes numerous small problems. You should visit the forum at > http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2 to discuss KnoppMyth-specific problems and > fixes. Cecil and the others there are incredibly helpful. http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/ is also a good resource for KnoppMyth users. Nick ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ?
--- Jim Reith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, as much as I appreciate the effort everyone has put into the > HowTo's There has been a major change in going to R5A15 from the R4 > versions. This rant thread is about Jerod's guide, which is specific to Fedora Core. You are using KnoppMyth. You're also using a version of KnoppMyth which is not the very latest. The current release is R5A16.1 which fixes numerous small problems. You should visit the forum at http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2 to discuss KnoppMyth-specific problems and fixes. Cecil and the others there are incredibly helpful. Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ?
> Well, as much as I appreciate the effort everyone has put into the HowTo's There has been a major change in going to R5A15 from the R4 versions. The current HowTo's use the older syntax and the new software complains about the befores and afters and the post-installs. I was able to finally piece together my system from several topics and couldn't get the final piece to get past the purple and green screen and "no device". I finally found the pvr.pl script and ran that, which them put the old style format back into ivtv and left me with an XF86Config-4 with no device and no link for the Hex from lspci -v (all zeros) and so when I put my old ivtv and XF86Config-4 from the backups (gdm.conf was the same) and rebooted, it actually came up and is running. So I was close, but there was no place along the way that had the complete solution. I will try to document the various file changes but pvr.pl did something I hadn't so I'll have to look at it and see what I missed. As I said, I appreciate the work people have done to get the system up, but we need to indicate which version things are done with so we can figure out which set to work from I hate to point this out but the guide this thread is referring to is titled "Fedora Myth(TV)ology::HOWTO". It appears that you are using Knoppmyth. Now I have used Jarod's guide several times, most recently with FedoraCore 3 but I found it useful even when installing myth on slackware. Some things didn't apply to slackware but I didn't feel the need to criticize Jarod simply because I chose a different distro than he. and keep in mind that I'm not the original poster, just someone else that's had trouble using all the guides that have been pointed out in all the various archived threads. This is a volatile section since PVR-350 video out is really new Jim (aka !Nick) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ?
--- Jim Reith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On 6/21/05, todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> OK, working on my 4th reinstall and I see from > prior installs I forgot > >> to exec this. > >> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# /sbin/modprobe ivtv-fb > >> FATAL: Error inserting ivtv_fb > >> > (/lib/modules/2.6.11-1.27_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/ivtv-fb.ko): > >> Operation not permitted > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# > >> > >> I am running this on a haup. pvr-250 card. > >> > >> can I ignore this or do we have a problem to > research further. > >> > >> this in out of the install ivtv config section > of " Wilsons how to... > > > >... for configuring output from the PVR-350 card. > This only appears if > >you consciously open the normally-hidden section > dedicated to PVR-350 > >output. > > > >Please stop bashing Jarod's guide (which you manage > to do in nearly > >every post). A large number of people (with > apparently much less > >computing knowledge than you profess to) have > successfully built > >systems using this guide, myself included. If you > try and setup > >hardware that you don't even have, you will have > problems. > > > >If you spot a problem, notify the author. If you > come across a problem > >in MythTV, submit a patch if you are able to. > Nobody said that MythTV > >is production quality (although a lot of us find it > stable enough). > >That's why the release is at 0.18. Finally, Google, > Google Groups and > >the mythtv-users archive are invaluable - there's a > huge amount of > >useful information available there. > > > >Nick > > > >BTW, your website's index page is not index.htm. > You may want to fix > >the broken links. And freelance is one word ... > > Well, as much as I appreciate the effort everyone > has put into the > HowTo's There has been a major change in going to > R5A15 from the R4 > versions. The current HowTo's use the older syntax > and the new > software complains about the befores and afters and > the > post-installs. I was able to finally piece together > my system from > several topics and couldn't get the final piece to > get past the > purple and green screen and "no device". I finally > found the pvr.pl > script and ran that, which them put the old style > format back into > ivtv and left me with an XF86Config-4 with no device > and no link for > the Hex from lspci -v (all zeros) and so when I put > my old ivtv and > XF86Config-4 from the backups (gdm.conf was the > same) and rebooted, > it actually came up and is running. So I was close, > but there was no > place along the way that had the complete solution. > I will try to > document the various file changes but pvr.pl did > something I hadn't > so I'll have to look at it and see what I missed. > > As I said, I appreciate the work people have done to > get the system > up, but we need to indicate which version things are > done with so we > can figure out which set to work from > I hate to point this out but the guide this thread is referring to is titled "Fedora Myth(TV)ology::HOWTO". It appears that you are using Knoppmyth. Now I have used Jarod's guide several times, most recently with FedoraCore 3 but I found it useful even when installing myth on slackware. Some things didn't apply to slackware but I didn't feel the need to criticize Jarod simply because I chose a different distro than he. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ?
On 6/21/05, todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, working on my 4th reinstall and I see from prior installs I forgot to exec this. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# /sbin/modprobe ivtv-fb FATAL: Error inserting ivtv_fb (/lib/modules/2.6.11-1.27_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/ivtv-fb.ko): Operation not permitted [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# I am running this on a haup. pvr-250 card. can I ignore this or do we have a problem to research further. this in out of the install ivtv config section of " Wilsons how to... ... for configuring output from the PVR-350 card. This only appears if you consciously open the normally-hidden section dedicated to PVR-350 output. Please stop bashing Jarod's guide (which you manage to do in nearly every post). A large number of people (with apparently much less computing knowledge than you profess to) have successfully built systems using this guide, myself included. If you try and setup hardware that you don't even have, you will have problems. If you spot a problem, notify the author. If you come across a problem in MythTV, submit a patch if you are able to. Nobody said that MythTV is production quality (although a lot of us find it stable enough). That's why the release is at 0.18. Finally, Google, Google Groups and the mythtv-users archive are invaluable - there's a huge amount of useful information available there. Nick BTW, your website's index page is not index.htm. You may want to fix the broken links. And freelance is one word ... Well, as much as I appreciate the effort everyone has put into the HowTo's There has been a major change in going to R5A15 from the R4 versions. The current HowTo's use the older syntax and the new software complains about the befores and afters and the post-installs. I was able to finally piece together my system from several topics and couldn't get the final piece to get past the purple and green screen and "no device". I finally found the pvr.pl script and ran that, which them put the old style format back into ivtv and left me with an XF86Config-4 with no device and no link for the Hex from lspci -v (all zeros) and so when I put my old ivtv and XF86Config-4 from the backups (gdm.conf was the same) and rebooted, it actually came up and is running. So I was close, but there was no place along the way that had the complete solution. I will try to document the various file changes but pvr.pl did something I hadn't so I'll have to look at it and see what I missed. As I said, I appreciate the work people have done to get the system up, but we need to indicate which version things are done with so we can figure out which set to work from ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ?
On 6/21/05, todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, working on my 4th reinstall and I see from prior installs I forgot > to exec this. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# /sbin/modprobe ivtv-fb > FATAL: Error inserting ivtv_fb > (/lib/modules/2.6.11-1.27_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/ivtv-fb.ko): > Operation not permitted > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# > > I am running this on a haup. pvr-250 card. > > can I ignore this or do we have a problem to research further. > > this in out of the install ivtv config section of " Wilsons how to... ... for configuring output from the PVR-350 card. This only appears if you consciously open the normally-hidden section dedicated to PVR-350 output. Please stop bashing Jarod's guide (which you manage to do in nearly every post). A large number of people (with apparently much less computing knowledge than you profess to) have successfully built systems using this guide, myself included. If you try and setup hardware that you don't even have, you will have problems. If you spot a problem, notify the author. If you come across a problem in MythTV, submit a patch if you are able to. Nobody said that MythTV is production quality (although a lot of us find it stable enough). That's why the release is at 0.18. Finally, Google, Google Groups and the mythtv-users archive are invaluable - there's a huge amount of useful information available there. Nick BTW, your website's index page is not index.htm. You may want to fix the broken links. And freelance is one word ... ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ?
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 02:37 am, todd wrote: > Please keep you insults to yourself. Then stop insulting all the people involved with this project. I'm quite tired of it. If you continue to do so, you'll not be allowed on this list anymore. Isaac ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ?
Please keep you insults to yourself. they do little to solving a problem and promote ill-will. And you never know you may need a job from a person like myself. In the copy of the doc I am using there is no indication that the command provided is pvr-350 specific. But I can hardly fault the writer of the doc, I have often found that great or even good developers make poor tech writers. In any event good day, sir On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 01:22 -0400, Isaac Richards wrote: > On Monday 20 June 2005 11:58 pm, Todd Bailey wrote: > > thanks, I'm reading wilson's install how to notes. > > > > unfortunately it has a few holes in it and it forces you to make a few too > > many assumptions. > > Like the assumption that the person reading it understands English, and won't > follow the PVR-350 instructions if they're not using a PVR-350? I tend to > think that that's a valid assumption to make. > > Isaac > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users -- todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ?
On Monday 20 June 2005 11:58 pm, Todd Bailey wrote: > thanks, I'm reading wilson's install how to notes. > > unfortunately it has a few holes in it and it forces you to make a few too > many assumptions. Like the assumption that the person reading it understands English, and won't follow the PVR-350 instructions if they're not using a PVR-350? I tend to think that that's a valid assumption to make. Isaac ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ?
thanks, I'm reading wilson's install how to notes. unfortunately it has a few holes in it and it forces you to make a few too many assumptions. This mailbox protected from junk email by MailFrontier Desktop from MailFrontier, Inc. http://info.mailfrontier.com - Original Message - From: "Isaac Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion about mythtv" Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ? On Monday 20 June 2005 08:47 pm, todd wrote: OK, working on my 4th reinstall and I see from prior installs I forgot to exec this. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# /sbin/modprobe ivtv-fb FATAL: Error inserting ivtv_fb (/lib/modules/2.6.11-1.27_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/ivtv-fb.ko): Operation not permitted [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# I am running this on a haup. pvr-250 card. can I ignore this or do we have a problem to research further. this in out of the install ivtv config section of " Wilsons how to... You might want to try actually reading the howto. That's part of the pvr-350 instructions, and doesn't have anything to do with the pvr-250. Isaac ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ?
On Monday 20 June 2005 08:47 pm, todd wrote: > OK, working on my 4th reinstall and I see from prior installs I forgot > to exec this. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# /sbin/modprobe ivtv-fb > FATAL: Error inserting ivtv_fb > (/lib/modules/2.6.11-1.27_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/ivtv-fb.ko): > Operation not permitted > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# > > I am running this on a haup. pvr-250 card. > > can I ignore this or do we have a problem to research further. > > this in out of the install ivtv config section of " Wilsons how to... You might want to try actually reading the howto. That's part of the pvr-350 instructions, and doesn't have anything to do with the pvr-250. Isaac ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ?
Thanks, I'll make a note of this in the install notes. This mailbox protected from junk email by MailFrontier Desktop from MailFrontier, Inc. http://info.mailfrontier.com - Original Message - From: "MythTV-Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion about mythtv" Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:58 PM Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ? I believe the command you need to run is "/sbin/modprobe ivtv" (I use 2xpvr-250s) The ivtv-fb is specific to the pvr-350 card with video out. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of todd Posted At: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:48 PM Posted To: MythTV-Users Conversation: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ? Subject: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ? OK, working on my 4th reinstall and I see from prior installs I forgot to exec this. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# /sbin/modprobe ivtv-fb FATAL: Error inserting ivtv_fb (/lib/modules/2.6.11-1.27_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/ivtv-fb.ko): Operation not permitted [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# I am running this on a haup. pvr-250 card. can I ignore this or do we have a problem to research further. this in out of the install ivtv config section of " Wilsons how to... tia ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ?
I believe the command you need to run is "/sbin/modprobe ivtv" (I use 2xpvr-250s) The ivtv-fb is specific to the pvr-350 card with video out. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of todd Posted At: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:48 PM Posted To: MythTV-Users Conversation: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ? Subject: [mythtv-users] Is this a "fatal" error ? OK, working on my 4th reinstall and I see from prior installs I forgot to exec this. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# /sbin/modprobe ivtv-fb FATAL: Error inserting ivtv_fb (/lib/modules/2.6.11-1.27_FC3/updates/drivers/media/video/ivtv-fb.ko): Operation not permitted [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# I am running this on a haup. pvr-250 card. can I ignore this or do we have a problem to research further. this in out of the install ivtv config section of " Wilsons how to... tia ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
