RE: [mythtv-users] Need help / suggestion for building a myth box
Thanks for your input. I had found what looks to be a plug-in for Myth called MythTivo. I don't know much about it, and I do not hold high hopes for it. Like you suggestion I will probably just build my Myth box as a jukebox. Do you have you Tivo remote working with your Myth box? Also do you mind sharing some of your hardware specs? In addition, I am currently am using Etivo to pull shows off my DirectTivo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Chris Ribe Sent: Tue 12/13/2005 9:44 PM To: Discussion about mythtv Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need help / suggestion for building a myth box Your DirecTivo will not work as a backend. Depending on the model, you might be able to export recordings from it after extensive hacking, but there probably isn't a solution you are going to like that will work with your DirecTivo. (Full disclosure: I use a DirecTiVo for watching TV and a MythTV system for tinkering - and in the hope that it will one day work better than my DirecTivo.) Regarding MythMusic, I'll refrain from saying anything as I have nothing nice to say. If there are users out there who listen to a lot of music (as many hours/day as TV) and use MythMusic, I implore them to come forward and share their success stories. MythVideo/MythDVD are a very nice little combo for watching/ripping DVD's. From what I understand of your situation, I would recommend setting up a MythBox as a DVD player/juke while retaining the DirecTiVo for TV. On 12/13/05, Mythtv Users_Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to build a Myth system. However, I'm not sure if I can build just a front-end system. Here are my Goals - Small Quiet system - DVD / Music library (Main Goal) I'm tired of having my kid's man handle my DVD's and CD's - Encode shows for my Pocket PC when I travel - Use my Direct Tivo as my backend encoder (optional) - DVD Burner to save shows - Replace my old stereo system with a Myth system My Direct TV Tivo sound plays through my old Dolby Pro-Logic 5.1 via a RCA connection. No sound comes out of my TV - I'd also like to use my Direct TV Tivo remote It has a switch for Satellite receiver or TV Thanks in advance -Matt ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users winmail.dat___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Need help / suggestion for building a myth box
For a music manager, give Amarok a try. It sorts music by ID3 tags and auto downloads extra content (eg. Pics, band info, lyrics). I was strictly XMMS until I found this. It has a beautiful UI and has unparalleled features. As for the front-end; I think it will be easiest for you to just build a combination frontend/backend. With computer prices what they are today, it is not expensive to throw together a machine that can handle these tasks with extra space to do whatever. Also, you wont have to worry about networking or powering two machines. Some might go the VIA Epia route but that has some headaches and speed restrictions. Look into Shuttle XPC barebones. They arent the cheapest out there, but they have solid reviews. I would recommend getting a M-Audio Revolution 7.1 if you are an audiophile but onboard will suffice if its not so picky. -Grant On 12/13/05, Mythtv Users_Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to build a Myth system. However, I'm not sure if I can build just a front-end system. Here are my Goals - Small Quiet system - DVD / Music library (Main Goal) I'm tired of having my kid's man handle my DVD's and CD's - Encode shows for my Pocket PC when I travel - Use my Direct Tivo as my backend encoder (optional) - DVD Burner to save shows - Replace my old stereo system with a Myth system My Direct TV Tivo sound plays through my old Dolby Pro-Logic 5.1 via a RCA connection. No sound comes out of my TV - I'd also like to use my Direct TV Tivo remote It has a switch for Satellite receiver or TV Thanks in advance -Matt ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Need help / suggestion for building a myth box
Chris Ribe wrote: Your DirecTivo will not work as a backend. Depending on the model, you might be able to export recordings from it after extensive hacking, but there probably isn't a solution you are going to like that will work with your DirecTivo. (Full disclosure: I use a DirecTiVo for watching TV and a MythTV system for tinkering - and in the hope that it will one day work better than my DirecTivo.) Regarding MythMusic, I'll refrain from saying anything as I have nothing nice to say. If there are users out there who listen to a lot of music (as many hours/day as TV) and use MythMusic, I implore them to come forward and share their success stories. I don't know what you mean by success, but if that's just having it working, then yes I play music with visualizations and all :D It doesn't crash or do anything wierd. However, when displaying visualizations full screen, it won't display the track name when the song changes. Other than that works great have no other gripes. I wouldn't say I listen as many hours as watching TV, but almost as much. Sound is pretty good coming out of my onboard chip; could be better with a better card of course. Raphael ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Need help / suggestion for building a myth box
Regarding MythMusic, I'll refrain from saying anything as I have nothing nice to say. If there are users out there who listen to a lot of music (as many hours/day as TV) and use MythMusic, I implore them to come forward and share their success stories. I don't know what you mean by success, but if that's just having it working, then yes I play music with visualizations and all :D It doesn't crash or do anything wierd. However, when displaying visualizations full screen, it won't display the track name when the song changes. Other than that works great have no other gripes. I wouldn't say I listen as many hours as watching TV, but almost as much. Sound is pretty good coming out of my onboard chip; could be better with a better card of course. Raphael I use it some and find it akward to browse / modify the play lists. I have not figured out how to add a playlist, just delete and rename. Other than that, it works just fine to listen to music. - James ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Need help / suggestion for building a myth box
I have about 7,000 tracks in my library. I got excited and copied it all to my mythtv box, but I don't use it because it's a pain. I don't know C at all, but I was considering writing something in Perl or PHP that would allow some easy browsing/playlist selection stuff and add it to my MythWeb. I would probably keep it completely separate from Myth and use a SQLite DB or something so it's portable. I'm sure there are tons of scripts out there that do this, but I would keep the interface TV/IR Remote friendly specifically for using on my mythtv frontend. Now to only find the time to do it... On Dec 14, 2005, at 10:23 AM, James Armstrong wrote: Regarding MythMusic, I'll refrain from saying anything as I have nothing nice to say. If there are users out there who listen to a lot of music (as many hours/day as TV) and use MythMusic, I implore them to come forward and share their success stories. I don't know what you mean by success, but if that's just having it working, then yes I play music with visualizations and all :D It doesn't crash or do anything wierd. However, when displaying visualizations full screen, it won't display the track name when the song changes. Other than that works great have no other gripes. I wouldn't say I listen as many hours as watching TV, but almost as much. Sound is pretty good coming out of my onboard chip; could be better with a better card of course. Raphael I use it some and find it akward to browse / modify the play lists. I have not figured out how to add a playlist, just delete and rename. Other than that, it works just fine to listen to music. - James ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Need help / suggestion for building a myth box
I should clarify my thoughts on MythMusic. I don't think it is broken, I just down think its functionality stacks up well against the competition. For my purposes, the competition class is PCmusic playing software. I understand that for others the competition may be restricted to linux or remote control operable programs. I am constantly adding new music to my library and creating ad-hoc playlists, and MythMusic doesn't really facilitate this type of behaivior. Of course, I use ITunes and Rhapsody for music, so DRM issues prevent the developement of any MythMusic module that would suit my needs. If I ever get the time, I'd like to implement a Myth music module with an iPod like interface and a more detailed mode for use on high res terminals with keyboard input. On 12/14/05, Brad DerManouelian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have about 7,000 tracks in my library. I got excited and copied itall to my mythtv box, but I don't use it because it's a pain. I don't know C at all, but I was considering writing something in Perl or PHPthat would allow some easy browsing/playlist selection stuff and addit to my MythWeb. I would probably keep it completely separate fromMyth and use a SQLite DB or something so it's portable. I'm sure there are tons of scripts out there that do this, but I would keepthe interface TV/IR Remote friendly specifically for using on mymythtv frontend.Now to only find the time to do it...On Dec 14, 2005, at 10:23 AM, James Armstrong wrote: Regarding MythMusic, I'll refrain from saying anything as I have nothing nice to say.If there are users out there who listen to a lot of music (as many hours/day as TV) and use MythMusic, I implore them to come forward and share their success stories. I don't know what you mean by success, but if that's just having it working, then yes I play music with visualizations and all :D It doesn't crash or do anything wierd.However, when displaying visualizations full screen, it won't display the track name when the song changes.Other than that works great have no other gripes.I wouldn't say I listen as many hours as watching TV, but almost as much.Sound is pretty good coming out of my onboard chip; could be better with a better card of course. Raphael I use it some and find it akward to browse / modify the play lists. I have not figured out how to add a playlist, just delete and rename. Other than that, it works just fine to listen to music. - James ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Need help / suggestion for building a myth box
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 20:57, Chris Ribe wrote: I should clarify my thoughts on MythMusic. I don't think it is broken, I just down think its functionality stacks up well against the competition. For my purposes, the competition class is PCmusic playing software. I understand that for others the competition may be restricted to linux or remote control operable programs. I am constantly adding new music to my library and creating ad-hoc playlists, and MythMusic doesn't really facilitate this type of behaivior. Of course, I use ITunes and Rhapsody for music, so DRM issues prevent the developement of any MythMusic module that would suit my needs. If I ever get the time, I'd like to implement a Myth music module with an iPod like interface and a more detailed mode for use on high res terminals with keyboard input. On 12/14/05, Brad DerManouelian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have about 7,000 tracks in my library. I got excited and copied it all to my mythtv box, but I don't use it because it's a pain. I don't know C at all, but I was considering writing something in Perl or PHP that would allow some easy browsing/playlist selection stuff and add it to my MythWeb. I would probably keep it completely separate from Myth and use a SQLite DB or something so it's portable. I'm sure there are tons of scripts out there that do this, but I would keep the interface TV/IR Remote friendly specifically for using on my mythtv frontend. Now to only find the time to do it... On Dec 14, 2005, at 10:23 AM, James Armstrong wrote: Regarding MythMusic, I'll refrain from saying anything as I have nothing nice to say. If there are users out there who listen to a lot of music (as many hours/day as TV) and use MythMusic, I implore them to come forward and share their success stories. I don't know what you mean by success, but if that's just having it working, then yes I play music with visualizations and all :D It doesn't crash or do anything wierd. However, when displaying visualizations full screen, it won't display the track name when the song changes. Other than that works great have no other gripes. I wouldn't say I listen as many hours as watching TV, but almost as much. Sound is pretty good coming out of my onboard chip; could be better with a better card of course. Raphael I use it some and find it akward to browse / modify the play lists. I have not figured out how to add a playlist, just delete and rename. Other than that, it works just fine to listen to music. - James I use XBMC for music. MythMusic is too clunky, finicky, and I haven't been able to get it to play any AAC tracks... But I'm trying it again to see if I can learn its methods better. Anyone know a good way to play streaming audio stations? -- Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Need help / suggestion for building a myth box
Oh, I wouldn't say it's broken, either. Just not how I would have designed it for my specific use. Even some album art support would make it much cooler. My video card doesn't support OpenGL, so visualizations are lacking. Any way to turn them off? Maybe I should actually read the MythMusic docs and see if I still don't like it after understanding it fully. :)On Dec 14, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Chris Ribe wrote:I should clarify my thoughts on MythMusic. I don't think it is broken, I just down think its functionality stacks up well against the competition. For my purposes, the competition class is PCmusic playing software. I understand that for others the competition may be restricted to linux or remote control operable programs. I am constantly adding new music to my library and creating ad-hoc playlists, and MythMusic doesn't really facilitate this type of behaivior. Of course, I use ITunes and Rhapsody for music, so DRM issues prevent the developement of any MythMusic module that would suit my needs. If I ever get the time, I'd like to implement a Myth music module with an iPod like interface and a more detailed mode for use on high res terminals with keyboard input. On 12/14/05, Brad DerManouelian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have about 7,000 tracks in my library. I got excited and copied itall to my mythtv box, but I don't use it because it's a pain. I don't know C at all, but I was considering writing something in Perl or PHPthat would allow some easy browsing/playlist selection stuff and addit to my MythWeb. I would probably keep it completely separate fromMyth and use a SQLite DB or something so it's portable. I'm sure there are tons of scripts out there that do this, but I would keepthe interface TV/IR Remote friendly specifically for using on mymythtv frontend.Now to only find the time to do it...On Dec 14, 2005, at 10:23 AM, James Armstrong wrote: Regarding MythMusic, I'll refrain from saying anything as I have nothing nice to say. If there are users out there who listen to a lot of music (as many hours/day as TV) and use MythMusic, I implore them to come forward and share their success stories. I don't know what you mean by success, but if that's just having it working, then yes I play music with visualizations and all :D It doesn't crash or do anything wierd. However, when displaying visualizations full screen, it won't display the track name when the song changes. Other than that works great have no other gripes. I wouldn't say I listen as many hours as watching TV, but almost as much. Sound is pretty good coming out of my onboard chip; could be better with a better card of course. Raphael I use it some and find it akward to browse / modify the play lists. I have not figured out how to add a playlist, just delete and rename. Other than that, it works just fine to listen to music. - James ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Need help / suggestion for building a myth box
Anyone know a good way to play streaming audio stations? Mythstream: http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html Works well and with the right parsers can get 'inside' complex web based lists of radio stations (e.g. BBC radio in the UK and shoutcast) and pull out by genre, program title etc. As far as I can recall it compiles OK against 18.1 and SVN - requires a minor edit to 3 xml theme files to get it into the frontend menus (details in the readme work great). It also handles streaming video (eg NasaTV)! -- Robin Gilks ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Need help / suggestion for building a myth box
Your DirecTivo will not work as a backend. Depending on the model, you might be able to export recordings from it after extensive hacking, but there probably isn't a solution you are going to like that will work with your DirecTivo. (Full disclosure: I use a DirecTiVo for watching TV and a MythTV system for tinkering - and in the hope that it will one day work better than my DirecTivo.) Regarding MythMusic, I'll refrain from saying anything as I have nothing nice to say. If there are users out there who listen to a lot of music (as many hours/day as TV) and use MythMusic, I implore them to come forward and share their success stories. MythVideo/MythDVD are a very nice little combo for watching/ripping DVD's. From what I understand of your situation, I would recommend setting up a MythBox as a DVD player/juke while retaining the DirecTiVo for TV. On 12/13/05, Mythtv Users_Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to build a Myth system. However, I'm not sure if I can build just a front-end system. Here are my Goals - Small Quiet system - DVD / Music library (Main Goal) I'm tired of having my kid's man handle my DVD's and CD's - Encode shows for my Pocket PC when I travel - Use my Direct Tivo as my backend encoder (optional) - DVD Burner to save shows - Replace my old stereo system with a Myth system My Direct TV Tivo sound plays through my old Dolby Pro-Logic 5.1 via a RCA connection. No sound comes out of my TV - I'd also like to use my Direct TV Tivo remote It has a switch for Satellite receiver or TV Thanks in advance -Matt ___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
