RE: [mythtv-users] New MCE 2005 Remote
Really trying to avoid using the kernel from source. I am using the FC3 kernel 2.6.11-14, lirc 0.7.0. Which Martin Blatter driver are you using ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sims Sent: 01 June 2005 03:31 To: Discussion about mythtv Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] New MCE 2005 Remote On May 31, 2005, at 9:42 AM, Nigel Metheringham wrote: It semi-worked. I came to find out that my motherboard/usb controller (ohci I believe) had an issue with that kernel. On my hardware, with kernels up to 2.6.11-1.14 (FC3 distribution) I was getting very intermittent hardware detection/module loading (ie one in 20 times). I haven't yet tried it against the newer kernel version. The way I handle this is to build just that kernel module and install it manually. I recently helped setup an MCE 2005 remote with lirc, and also had the intermittent detection/module loading problems. The stable combination ended up being lirc 0.7.0 built from source, kernel 2.6.11.7 built from source, and Martin Blatter's driver. This was a couple months ago and that combination of lirc/kernel/driver is still running with no detection/loading problems, and the remote is fully functional. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] New MCE 2005 Remote
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 07:00 +0100, Cenk Ozkan wrote: Really trying to avoid using the kernel from source. Absolutely - life is too short to build up a kernel and 8 or so additional module sets nowadays. I prefer to spend effort in application space and only resort to kernel builds where its absolutely necessary. Has anyone got the MCE 2005 working consistently against a FC3 packaged kernel? Problems with this module have been blamed on hardware types, but it could be that the USB framework is horked somewhere - this apparently was the case with mainline kernels prior to 2.6.10. If *noone* has it working OK with a FC3 distro kernel then thats a valuable data point. Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] New MCE 2005 Remote
Or atleast a workaround to make it work without rebooting the system 12 times I tried unloading and reloading usb subsystem + removing and adding lirc_mceusb and lirc_dev modules, no joy. There must be a way to clear whatever is killing it !! I could then run a small script during startup to fix it. Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nigel Metheringham Sent: 01 June 2005 09:13 To: Discussion about mythtv Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] New MCE 2005 Remote On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 07:00 +0100, Cenk Ozkan wrote: Really trying to avoid using the kernel from source. Absolutely - life is too short to build up a kernel and 8 or so additional module sets nowadays. I prefer to spend effort in application space and only resort to kernel builds where its absolutely necessary. Has anyone got the MCE 2005 working consistently against a FC3 packaged kernel? Problems with this module have been blamed on hardware types, but it could be that the USB framework is horked somewhere - this apparently was the case with mainline kernels prior to 2.6.10. If *noone* has it working OK with a FC3 distro kernel then thats a valuable data point. Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New MCE 2005 Remote
just make sure to let us all know the solution!! Ha ha. On 6/1/05, Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 09:51 +0100, Cenk Ozkan wrote: Or atleast a workaround to make it work without rebooting the system 12 times I tried unloading and reloading usb subsystem + removing and adding lirc_mceusb and lirc_dev modules, no joy. There must be a way to clear whatever is killing it !! I could then run a small script during startup to fix it. Well it basically works one time in (some number - around 20 or so I think). You can sort it by unloading the modules and then doing an unplug/replug until it finally catches right. So I guess that you could fix this by replacing the (physical) unplug/replug by pulling the module in again with the right parameters/infrastructure to make it look like it was being loaded by the hotplug mechanism (its slightly more difficult than just modprobe ). However its probably as easy to find the real problem :-) This is probably best taken to the lirc lists where Martin and other people that know the insides of this stuff lurk (or is that lirc). Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New MCE 2005 Remote
On Jun 1, 2005, at 12:00 AM, Cenk Ozkan wrote: Really trying to avoid using the kernel from source. I am using the FC3 kernel 2.6.11-14, lirc 0.7.0. Which Martin Blatter driver are you using ? I don't have access to the computer it's setup on anymore, so I can't double check, but I believe it's the one dated April 1. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New MCE 2005 Remote
David Sims wrote: On Jun 1, 2005, at 12:00 AM, Cenk Ozkan wrote: Really trying to avoid using the kernel from source. I am using the FC3 kernel 2.6.11-14, lirc 0.7.0. Which Martin Blatter driver are you using ? I don't have access to the computer it's setup on anymore, so I can't double check, but I believe it's the one dated April 1. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users The newer driver from may only added support for an additional remote which i have. It comes with the toshiba quosimo i think. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New MCE 2005 Remote
I have that remote and I had a HUGE struggle with it. I am using FC3 on my FE and was using kernel 2.6.10-1.770 from ATRPMS. The pre-packaged lirc from ATRPMs didn't include the necessary driver for the newer style MCE remotes. I had to find the corrent source code for the ONE driver and compile a version of lirc against my current kernel. It semi-worked. I came to find out that my motherboard/usb controller (ohci I believe) had an issue with that kernel. It would cause the receiver to work SOMETIMES but not often enough. After reboots it would disappear. I was told that a newer kernel should fix the issue. I noticed last week that Axel had upgraded the kernel on his site so I went about the process of upgrading and in the middle, I kinda fubar'd my setup. So I built from scratch. I don't know if lirc has been upgraded with this newer driver or not. Axel has told me he only builds official releases of packages (lirc, nvidia, etc). He doesn't include fixes. I will probably try again to get my MCE 2005 remote working. It might just be better if I went to GENTOO on my FE so that I compile everything from scratch just to make sure I can get exactly what I want in. That is a pretty huge step though from FC3. Good luck! Jim O (CN-Liberal) On 5/30/05, G0dSmack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the MCE 2004 remote. Any help on getting this to work would be greatly appreciated as well. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cenk Ozkan Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 7:56 AM To: 'Discussion about mythtv' Subject: [mythtv-users] New MCE 2005 Remote Has anyone on this list got the new MCE 2005 remote working ??? Any help would be appreciated. Cenk ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New MCE 2005 Remote
James, I also have a new style MCE2005 remote There are several different vendors that provide these remotes, so I sent in an extra vendor ID for my remote to the person who did the patch allowing MCE2005 remote's drivers to be built. His patch hasn't actually hit the lirc patches because it apparantly can't coexist with the MCE2004 remote driver. Now, I ran into the same blockade you did that it semi works, but not nearly enough to be satisfactory. What did you do about it? I was told to try a pre-emptive kernel, but that just jeopardized the stability of my AMD64 system pretty badly. Did you find something else that works? Mario On 5/31/05, James Oltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have that remote and I had a HUGE struggle with it. I am using FC3 on my FE and was using kernel 2.6.10-1.770 from ATRPMS. The pre-packaged lirc from ATRPMs didn't include the necessary driver for the newer style MCE remotes. I had to find the corrent source code for the ONE driver and compile a version of lirc against my current kernel. It semi-worked. I came to find out that my motherboard/usb controller (ohci I believe) had an issue with that kernel. It would cause the receiver to work SOMETIMES but not often enough. After reboots it would disappear. I was told that a newer kernel should fix the issue. I noticed last week that Axel had upgraded the kernel on his site so I went about the process of upgrading and in the middle, I kinda fubar'd my setup. So I built from scratch. I don't know if lirc has been upgraded with this newer driver or not. Axel has told me he only builds official releases of packages (lirc, nvidia, etc). He doesn't include fixes. I will probably try again to get my MCE 2005 remote working. It might just be better if I went to GENTOO on my FE so that I compile everything from scratch just to make sure I can get exactly what I want in. That is a pretty huge step though from FC3. Good luck! ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New MCE 2005 Remote
On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 09:32 -0500, James Oltman wrote: I have that remote and I had a HUGE struggle with it. I am using FC3 on my FE and was using kernel 2.6.10-1.770 from ATRPMS. The pre-packaged lirc from ATRPMs didn't include the necessary driver for the newer style MCE remotes. Its not in the lirc tree at all (not in the CVS at all) so its unsurprising that its not in the ATrpms package. I had to find the corrent source code for the ONE driver and compile a version of lirc against my current kernel. The kernel module for the newer version is at http://blatter.com/mceusb/ I see there is a new version there but that appears to be a mod to support additional hardware. At present the new and old drivers are significantly different, so the only way they could both be supported in Lirc would be to have 2 differently named modules within the tree. It semi-worked. I came to find out that my motherboard/usb controller (ohci I believe) had an issue with that kernel. On my hardware, with kernels up to 2.6.11-1.14 (FC3 distribution) I was getting very intermittent hardware detection/module loading (ie one in 20 times). I haven't yet tried it against the newer kernel version. The way I handle this is to build just that kernel module and install it manually. Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New MCE 2005 Remote
On May 31, 2005, at 9:42 AM, Nigel Metheringham wrote: It semi-worked. I came to find out that my motherboard/usb controller (ohci I believe) had an issue with that kernel. On my hardware, with kernels up to 2.6.11-1.14 (FC3 distribution) I was getting very intermittent hardware detection/module loading (ie one in 20 times). I haven't yet tried it against the newer kernel version. The way I handle this is to build just that kernel module and install it manually. I recently helped setup an MCE 2005 remote with lirc, and also had the intermittent detection/module loading problems. The stable combination ended up being lirc 0.7.0 built from source, kernel 2.6.11.7 built from source, and Martin Blatter's driver. This was a couple months ago and that combination of lirc/kernel/driver is still running with no detection/loading problems, and the remote is fully functional. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] New MCE 2005 Remote
I have the MCE 2004 remote. Any help on getting this to work would be greatly appreciated as well. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cenk Ozkan Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 7:56 AM To: 'Discussion about mythtv' Subject: [mythtv-users] New MCE 2005 Remote Has anyone on this list got the new MCE 2005 remote working ??? Any help would be appreciated. Cenk ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
