Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 21:05 -0400, Donavan Stanley wrote: > > There's a REALLY easy solution. Oh good. > Call them up and cancel, and then > tell them why you're canceling. If you're not willing to vote with > your wallet then stop complaining. Hey! Good idea. Then I will just go order service from one of the other cable companies offering service in my area. Let me go look for a phone number... Imagine my surprise. There are no other cable companies servicing this area. So I guess I will just "vote with my wallet" and have nothing. And before you suggest it, satellite is exactly all of the same reasons I am not interested in digital cable, so that's not even an option. b. -- My other computer is your Microsoft Windows server. Brian J. Murrell signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On 8/9/05, Brian J. Murrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 15:32 -0400, Phil Bridges wrote: > > > > Does your cable company not rent cable boxes? > > Sure. As if cable was not expensive enough though? Why should I *have* > to pay more for what I am getting today? Cableco likes to advertise > that "going digital" you get the same channels at the same price. They > fail to count the cost of "boxes" though. There's a REALLY easy solution. Call them up and cancel, and then tell them why you're canceling. If you're not willing to vote with your wallet then stop complaining. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
those [EMAIL PROTECTED]@RD$!!! they DID move my beloved Sci-Fi channel. I went to the local payment center to pickup a "digital self install package" which consisted of a DCT2524. Hooked it up to my regular TV to get the initial configuration completed then connected it via composite (it doesn't have SVideo) to my PVR150 card. Added the lineup, configured the card, etc. Luckily, the "channel" program in the dct directory in contrib worked fine, so I have serial-based channel changing instead of IR. They also say that the upgraded package to digital classic will "only" cost $5 for the first 6 months at which point it goes to $10. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On 8/9/05, Robert Kulagowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my August 1 bill, Comcast Chicago says that starting Aug 9, SCI-FI > will only be available on their digital packages. > > So, heads up if you've got analog cable and watch SCI-FI channel. those [EMAIL PROTECTED]@RD$!!! they DID move my beloved Sci-Fi channel. :_( now my MythBox is near useless. my wife and i don't normally watch tv by ourselves and the only shows we really enjoy together are on Sci-Fi. i guess i'll have to resort my pre-Myth tactics to get our shows back... ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
Robert Kulagowski wrote: In my August 1 bill, Comcast Chicago says that starting Aug 9, SCI-FI will only be available on their digital packages. So, heads up if you've got analog cable and watch SCI-FI channel. Considering Sci-fi puts so many shows in "widescreen" but is still a standard def channel, I hardly watch it. A "widescreen" program in a 4:3 window on a 16:9 54" TV leaves black bars all the way around. Going to "zoom" mode makes all the pixels about the size of golf balls and is totally unwatchable. I wish Sci-fi would launch an HD channel (or if they have, our cable company here would carry it). Jeff. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On 8/10/05, Mark J. Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One problem that I have had is that myth doesn't always use the inputs > intelligently. I tried to schedule three recordings last Saturday night for > the same time, and myth wouldn't let me, even though at least two of them > were on analog. Maybe I have a setup problem. You should be able to get around this in the setup. First off, make sure that you have two separate input lineups - one with analog only, associated with the first two cards; one with digital, associated with the third card. Then, I think you need to adjust the priorities of the tuner cards. Set it up so that the analog-only cards are used first. Disclaimer: I haven't actually tried this. :) Hope that helps, Lane -- Meetup with other Myth users! http://mythtv.info/moin.cgi/MUG ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On August 9, 2005 05:53 pm, Scot L. Harris wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 15:57, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 15:13 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote: > > > But if I want to record two shows at once, as I can currently do, I > > > would need two boxes. It gets even more expensive if I want to have 3 > > > or 4 inputs (which is what I am aiming for to prevent recording > > > conflicts, two inputs have eliminated most conflicts but still get some > > > occasionally). To say nothing about having a stack of cable boxes next > > > to the TV just to be able to get the content you want. > > > > Well, there is a workaround maybe. Here in Bakersfield, CA, I have > > a friend with digital cable (I don't), one box and three TVs. It seems > > that the cable company sends the analog cable signal along with the > > digital ones. So she is limited to the "extra" channels on one TV > > (using the box) but has access to "expanded basic" (with ESPN, DISC, > > etc.) on the other TVs. > > > > So, if Comcast does the same, you could just go with one card set to > > record digital channels (through the box), and the others to the analog > > (directly to the cable as before). You should be able to eliminate most > > program overlaps that way, unless you end up recording a lot of digital > > only channels. > > > > > Is there anyone that is pushing digital standards so digital tuners are > > > standard in TVs and can then be standard on capture cards? > > > > Give it time. It took a while after cable first came out to get an > > analog standard (analog cable boxes didn't use to be compatible from one > > provider to the next, either). > > This is how I have things setup now. I only have analog input to my PVR > cards. I don't get any pay channels. Nor do I use the cable box as > input to the mythtv box. For the moment everything I watch is available > over the analog signal that comes in on the cable line. I could do with > out the digital box. The problem the OP was relating was that cable > companies are moving channels that some want to watch out of the analog > set to the digital only set. > > If they do as the OP suggests and move everything to digital then the > PVR cards become useless for the most part since you would need a > digital box for each encoder. I guess the encoders could be simplified > which should make them cheaper since they would only need to be set to > channel 3 or which ever channel your cable company selects. It becomes > more troublesome since you have to then have and control multiple > digital cable boxes to get to the different channels. > > I don't look forward to having to pay extra for each cable box to have 3 > or 4 of them to feed the mythtv box. Plus the added complexity of > controlling those boxes. While I don't use live tv much anymore I would > expect it would be easier in such a case to just have a cable box > connected directly to the TV and switch to that for live TV. The > utility of the DVR system would be less than before. My setup is similar to what others here are descibing. I have 3 PVR cards, and two digital cable boxes hooked up to my backend. The third PVR card is hooked up to analog cable. Fortunately for me, my cable provider was willing to let me use Cable boxes that I got off ebay, so it wasn't an enormous extra cost for me. One problem that I have had is that myth doesn't always use the inputs intelligently. I tried to schedule three recordings last Saturday night for the same time, and myth wouldn't let me, even though at least two of them were on analog. Maybe I have a setup problem. Mark ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On 8/9/05, Scot L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't look forward to having to pay extra for each cable box to have 3 > or 4 of them to feed the mythtv box. Plus the added complexity of > controlling those boxes. While I don't use live tv much anymore I would > expect it would be easier in such a case to just have a cable box > connected directly to the TV and switch to that for live TV. The > utility of the DVR system would be less than before. > Unless the shows you watch are only on digital-only channels, I don't see where this is what you need at all - just have one lineup for the card that has the cable box attached to it, and have an "analog-only" lineup for the remaining cards that are fed directly from the wall. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 15:57, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 15:13 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote: > > But if I want to record two shows at once, as I can currently do, I > > would need two boxes. It gets even more expensive if I want to have 3 > > or 4 inputs (which is what I am aiming for to prevent recording > > conflicts, two inputs have eliminated most conflicts but still get some > > occasionally). To say nothing about having a stack of cable boxes next > > to the TV just to be able to get the content you want. > > Well, there is a workaround maybe. Here in Bakersfield, CA, I have > a friend with digital cable (I don't), one box and three TVs. It seems > that the cable company sends the analog cable signal along with the > digital ones. So she is limited to the "extra" channels on one TV > (using the box) but has access to "expanded basic" (with ESPN, DISC, > etc.) on the other TVs. > > So, if Comcast does the same, you could just go with one card set to > record digital channels (through the box), and the others to the analog > (directly to the cable as before). You should be able to eliminate most > program overlaps that way, unless you end up recording a lot of digital > only channels. > > > Is there anyone that is pushing digital standards so digital tuners are > > standard in TVs and can then be standard on capture cards? > > Give it time. It took a while after cable first came out to get an > analog standard (analog cable boxes didn't use to be compatible from one > provider to the next, either). This is how I have things setup now. I only have analog input to my PVR cards. I don't get any pay channels. Nor do I use the cable box as input to the mythtv box. For the moment everything I watch is available over the analog signal that comes in on the cable line. I could do with out the digital box. The problem the OP was relating was that cable companies are moving channels that some want to watch out of the analog set to the digital only set. If they do as the OP suggests and move everything to digital then the PVR cards become useless for the most part since you would need a digital box for each encoder. I guess the encoders could be simplified which should make them cheaper since they would only need to be set to channel 3 or which ever channel your cable company selects. It becomes more troublesome since you have to then have and control multiple digital cable boxes to get to the different channels. I don't look forward to having to pay extra for each cable box to have 3 or 4 of them to feed the mythtv box. Plus the added complexity of controlling those boxes. While I don't use live tv much anymore I would expect it would be easier in such a case to just have a cable box connected directly to the TV and switch to that for live TV. The utility of the DVR system would be less than before. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 15:13 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote: > But if I want to record two shows at once, as I can currently do, I > would need two boxes. It gets even more expensive if I want to have 3 > or 4 inputs (which is what I am aiming for to prevent recording > conflicts, two inputs have eliminated most conflicts but still get some > occasionally). To say nothing about having a stack of cable boxes next > to the TV just to be able to get the content you want. Well, there is a workaround maybe. Here in Bakersfield, CA, I have a friend with digital cable (I don't), one box and three TVs. It seems that the cable company sends the analog cable signal along with the digital ones. So she is limited to the "extra" channels on one TV (using the box) but has access to "expanded basic" (with ESPN, DISC, etc.) on the other TVs. So, if Comcast does the same, you could just go with one card set to record digital channels (through the box), and the others to the analog (directly to the cable as before). You should be able to eliminate most program overlaps that way, unless you end up recording a lot of digital only channels. > Is there anyone that is pushing digital standards so digital tuners are > standard in TVs and can then be standard on capture cards? Give it time. It took a while after cable first came out to get an analog standard (analog cable boxes didn't use to be compatible from one provider to the next, either). Lonnie Borntreger ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
Solution as I mentioned earlier is to use a monster backend with all the PVR cards and boxes attached, then build out mini frontends to attach to your other TV's. Off two inputs I could realistically run three TV's or more because chances are only two of them would be running Live TV. Then you can also share recordings, shared music files on a single monster server and so on. I already run three frontends with one backend and *ONE* PVR and associated box. I can do this because generally one is used for viewing recordings and/or videos... and when it's used for Live TV it's only because my wife and I have already gone to bed and feel like chilling in front of Live TV. Typically we don't watch Live TV any more though... we've become so used to not having to worry about commercials that we just avoid them where possible now. Only the kids watch Live TV any more, and that's kids programs that we don't record; our stuff is typically recorded during late night re-runs (most networks do that these days) and we never actually watch them "Live". Hell, last night we went to bed early and watched last week's Battlestar Galactica upstairs because we hadn't had the time to watch it yet. Having kids and a busy social life does that to you... we rarely watch TV any more "live". -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Brian J. Murrell Sent: Tue 8/9/2005 2:14 PM To: Discussion about mythtv Cc: Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup,SCI-FI moving to digital only On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 14:56 -0400, Jim Reith wrote: > > Not really an investment in cable boxes as the cable company probably > provides at least one with your digital subscription And what of the additional ones I need for the PVR recording cards (1 each) and the other TVs in the house? They don't come anywhere near as free. And what do I do with them when I want to change providers? Yeah, I could sell them, not nearly at the same price I paid for them, if at all. b. <>___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 15:32 -0400, Phil Bridges wrote: > > Does your cable company not rent cable boxes? Sure. As if cable was not expensive enough though? Why should I *have* to pay more for what I am getting today? Cableco likes to advertise that "going digital" you get the same channels at the same price. They fail to count the cost of "boxes" though. b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
At 03:14 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 14:56 -0400, Jim Reith wrote: > > Not really an investment in cable boxes as the cable company probably > provides at least one with your digital subscription And what of the additional ones I need for the PVR recording cards (1 each) and the other TVs in the house? They don't come anywhere near as free. And what do I do with them when I want to change providers? Yeah, I could sell them, not nearly at the same price I paid for them, if at all. Like I said, my cable provider only charges me $1 per additional box. I have 3 at my house now... standard digital package plus $2 ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On 8/9/05, Brian J. Murrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 14:56 -0400, Jim Reith wrote: > > > > Not really an investment in cable boxes as the cable company probably > > provides at least one with your digital subscription > > And what of the additional ones I need for the PVR recording cards (1 > each) and the other TVs in the house? They don't come anywhere near as > free. And what do I do with them when I want to change providers? > Yeah, I could sell them, not nearly at the same price I paid for them, > if at all. > > b. > > > Does your cable company not rent cable boxes? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 14:56 -0400, Jim Reith wrote: > > Not really an investment in cable boxes as the cable company probably > provides at least one with your digital subscription And what of the additional ones I need for the PVR recording cards (1 each) and the other TVs in the house? They don't come anywhere near as free. And what do I do with them when I want to change providers? Yeah, I could sell them, not nearly at the same price I paid for them, if at all. b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 14:56, Jim Reith wrote: > At 02:43 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: > >On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 14:38 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote: > > > > > > So the S-Video input on the PVR line of cards allows the card to select > > > the channel on digital cable? > > > >No. > > > > > Or do you mean that would be used from > > > the digital cable box and then an IR blaster has to be used to change > > > the channels on the cable box? > > > >Yup. Hence my "None" comment before. Practically "None" without having > >to invest in cable boxes and set up I/R blasters. :-( > > Not really an investment in cable boxes as the cable company probably > provides at least one with your digital subscription But if I want to record two shows at once, as I can currently do, I would need two boxes. It gets even more expensive if I want to have 3 or 4 inputs (which is what I am aiming for to prevent recording conflicts, two inputs have eliminated most conflicts but still get some occasionally). To say nothing about having a stack of cable boxes next to the TV just to be able to get the content you want. Is there anyone that is pushing digital standards so digital tuners are standard in TVs and can then be standard on capture cards? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
At 02:43 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 14:38 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote: > > So the S-Video input on the PVR line of cards allows the card to select > the channel on digital cable? No. > Or do you mean that would be used from > the digital cable box and then an IR blaster has to be used to change > the channels on the cable box? Yup. Hence my "None" comment before. Practically "None" without having to invest in cable boxes and set up I/R blasters. :-( Not really an investment in cable boxes as the cable company probably provides at least one with your digital subscription ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
At 02:38 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 14:28, Jim Reith wrote: > At 02:15 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: > >On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 13:51 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote: > > > > > If/when they go full digital > > > which cards can be used? > > > >None. Welcome to America. > > Not true. Both cards will work using their S-Video inputs > > So the S-Video input on the PVR line of cards allows the card to select the channel on digital cable? Or do you mean that would be used from the digital cable box and then an IR blaster has to be used to change the channels on the cable box? The latter. You set the input to S-Video and then change channels on the settopbox through a scripts and the IRBlaster > > > Or do we have to play games with IR blasters > > > to switch channels on the cable box? > > > >Yup. > > yeah > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
> So the S-Video input on the PVR line of cards allows the card to select > the channel on digital cable? Or do you mean that would be used from > the digital cable box and then an IR blaster has to be used to change > the channels on the cable box? S-Video will just take the input from a box... there's no documented standard for digital boxes so that card manufacturers can create digital-capable cards. They want to lock you into those boxes for control purposes. IR Blaster... serial's cleaner and more efficient (if you have the ports and capability!) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 14:38 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote: > > So the S-Video input on the PVR line of cards allows the card to select > the channel on digital cable? No. > Or do you mean that would be used from > the digital cable box and then an IR blaster has to be used to change > the channels on the cable box? Yup. Hence my "None" comment before. Practically "None" without having to invest in cable boxes and set up I/R blasters. :-( b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 14:28, Jim Reith wrote: > At 02:15 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: > >On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 13:51 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote: > > > > > If/when they go full digital > > > which cards can be used? > > > >None. Welcome to America. > > Not true. Both cards will work using their S-Video inputs > > So the S-Video input on the PVR line of cards allows the card to select the channel on digital cable? Or do you mean that would be used from the digital cable box and then an IR blaster has to be used to change the channels on the cable box? > > > Or do we have to play games with IR blasters > > > to switch channels on the cable box? > > > >Yup. > > yeah > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
At 02:15 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 13:51 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote: > > Still have that channel here. Wow. Cableco lied to me. Imagine my surprise. Still available in new England as well > Currently I have the cable going direct to the PVR-350 and PVR-250. Yup. > I > assumed this was the basic analog service. Analog service anyway. Not sure about the adjectives. > If/when they go full digital > which cards can be used? None. Welcome to America. Not true. Both cards will work using their S-Video inputs > Or do we have to play games with IR blasters > to switch channels on the cable box? Yup. yeah > Would not be good having to have a > separate cable box for each encoder. Yup. Sounds like the cableco has a cash crop side business in selling marked up cable boxes huh? And since every cableco is using some different technology, it's not like 20 years ago when you needed a "standard" cable box just to get more channels and we just had to wait for TVs to have the cable box integrated into it. How many TV manufacturers do you think are going to put 17 different digital tuners in their TVs. Charter is nice enough to provide additional digital boxes for a buck a month rental after you buy the initial service so it's not a big deal other than needing two IRBlasters It's not like standards don't exist though. DVB for one. American cablecos just want to lock you into their service by making you have to "throw away" a large investment in hardware to change providers. Apparently Europeans didn't stand for that and now they have DVB (for satellite at least anyway) and can buy their tuners anywhere they want (and with one standard, TV makers will have one thing they can integrate into the TV). b. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 13:51 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote: > > Still have that channel here. Wow. Cableco lied to me. Imagine my surprise. > Currently I have the cable going direct to the PVR-350 and PVR-250. Yup. > I > assumed this was the basic analog service. Analog service anyway. Not sure about the adjectives. > If/when they go full digital > which cards can be used? None. Welcome to America. > Or do we have to play games with IR blasters > to switch channels on the cable box? Yup. > Would not be good having to have a > separate cable box for each encoder. Yup. Sounds like the cableco has a cash crop side business in selling marked up cable boxes huh? And since every cableco is using some different technology, it's not like 20 years ago when you needed a "standard" cable box just to get more channels and we just had to wait for TVs to have the cable box integrated into it. How many TV manufacturers do you think are going to put 17 different digital tuners in their TVs. It's not like standards don't exist though. DVB for one. American cablecos just want to lock you into their service by making you have to "throw away" a large investment in hardware to change providers. Apparently Europeans didn't stand for that and now they have DVB (for satellite at least anyway) and can buy their tuners anywhere they want (and with one standard, TV makers will have one thing they can integrate into the TV). b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 12:43, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > My cableco has been doing this. They have "taken away" two channels on > analog and made them available on digital. They also took CNN Headline > News but they claim that CNN has discontinued that channel. > Still have that channel here. Although in the evenings they have put the most obnoxious "news caster" on most nights, can stand to listen to her. > As for the other two moves, I wholeheartedly believe that this is an > effort to force people into digital services. I wouldn't be surprised > to lose a channel about every 6 months now until everyone is happy with > the 3 channels they will have left or moves to digital. Currently I have the cable going direct to the PVR-350 and PVR-250. I assumed this was the basic analog service. If/when they go full digital which cards can be used? Or do we have to play games with IR blasters to switch channels on the cable box? Would not be good having to have a separate cable box for each encoder. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 11:15 -0500, Andrew Close wrote: > > hmm, i'll have to look at my bill. i'm not gonna be happy if i have > to upgrade packages to get my Stargate, Battlestar Galactica fix. :) My cableco has been doing this. They have "taken away" two channels on analog and made them available on digital. They also took CNN Headline News but they claim that CNN has discontinued that channel. As for the other two moves, I wholeheartedly believe that this is an effort to force people into digital services. I wouldn't be surprised to lose a channel about every 6 months now until everyone is happy with the 3 channels they will have left or moves to digital. b. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Comcast Chicago changing channel lineup, SCI-FI moving to digital only
On 8/9/05, Robert Kulagowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my August 1 bill, Comcast Chicago says that starting Aug 9, SCI-FI > will only be available on their digital packages. > > So, heads up if you've got analog cable and watch SCI-FI channel. hmm, i'll have to look at my bill. i'm not gonna be happy if i have to upgrade packages to get my Stargate, Battlestar Galactica fix. :) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
