Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out. (SOLVED!)

2005-12-20 Thread Johan Kihlström
Hello all,

Finally broke the wall surrounding me, my Xbox and SPDIF!

Since I use the .asoundrc from the DigitalSound HowTo on the Xbox, which
has Digital Output but no IEC958 device, I solved the xine troubles I
was having by replacing the 

audio.device.alsa_passthrough_device:iec958:AES0=0x6,AES1=0x82,AES2=0x0,AES3=0x2

line in .xine/config with

#audio.device.alsa_passthrough_device:default

since the mixed-digital .asoundrc defaults to the SPDIF.

No more problems in Xine, not even when they switch between 2-channel
Stereo in menus, and full 5.1 or DTS on the DVD.

Now I see the light in the end of the tunnel (and NO, it's not a
train!!!)

I'll think I'll go see if the STB is ready for retirement yet, since I
now have a reciever to go with AC3 sound on the DVB channels as well.

Thanks everybody for the invaluable help and nudges in the right
direction!

Happy holidays

Johan



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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out. -- new weirdnesses

2005-12-19 Thread Marius Schrecker
 On 17/12/05, Marius Schrecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I might suggest that all alsa utilities, alsactl, and everything else
 is
  NOT required
  to use digital out with MythTV.  I'm using MythTV 0.18.1 on Gentoo and
 I
  only
  have the necessary alsa drivers compiled in the kernel. I've never
 used
  alsamixer
  or alsactl, or installed/emerged alsa-utils, alsamixer, aplay, or
 anything
  else
  alsa related. I'm not starting any alsa services during startup. The
 only
  thing I did is:
 
  Enable alsa support and driver in the kernel.
  Put .asoundrc in my home directory.
  Set MythTV as follows:
-Enable AC3
-Device = ALSA:digital
-Mixer = digital
 
  and that's it.  I also have all the other mythplugins working by
 setting
  their device
  to ALSA:digital. Is my setup unique, or are people doing more than
 need to
  to get digital audio working?
 

 The simpler the better. I don't care how little is installed as long as
 I
 can get digital output, so far no go, everything looks as if it should
 be
 working, just no sound :(

 I'd love to know how to test spdiff out as simply as possible, if I can
 bypass aplay then so much the better!
 Can I stream a 48KHz file straight to spdiff out?

 You can use aplay -D pcmdevice and then send it out of your spdif
 whilst testing. You can get a list of all PCM devices by running aplay
 -L - choose one that your SPDIF is aliased to (commonly spdif) and see
 if you get any sound.

 The digital sound HOWTO really does explain everything you should need
 to do to get SPDIF output - the one hurdle is commonly determining
 which controls in the mixer need to be set to allow this. In my most
 basic asoundrc file (which sounds everything by default to my SPDIF) I
 have used:

 pcm.!default {
 type hw
 card 0
 device 1
 }

 The card/device to specify can be determined using `aplay -l` - for my
 system my SPDIF was given as device 1 - yours may be different. Note
 that this device expects 48kHz audio - if it's not the same format it
 may play back too slow/fast or not at all. The excellent asoundrc in
 the HOWTO uses the plug and dmix plugins to allow on-the-fly rate
 conversion.

 Nick

Thanks everyone for keeping this thread alive.
Digital sound is now working this morning but NOT as expected (please read
on), after upgrading alsa-base to the latest version from Debian, removing
arts from the system (startup was not enabled in KDE, but I discovered
that artsd was running), and doing a new depmod after removing the oss API
related modules. I didn't have time to test this yesterday as domestic
Christmas duties are crampinmg my MythTV style ;-).

As I mentioned, I did this before with the same hardware, following the
Digital Sound Howto, and it was no problem at-all. I connected the
computer to the surround amp, fiddled with a couple of sliders in
alsamixer and we were watching our first Myth movie within about 30
seconds using ALSA:diital as the output device.

Here's what I've done now:

Kernel (2.6.14):
Sound Card Suport: M
 ALSA:M
  Sequencer: M (SND_SEQUENCER)
   sequencer dummy client: M (SND_SEQ_DUMMY)
  OSS Mixer API: M (SND_MIXER_OSS)
  OSS PCM: M (SND_PCM_OSS)
  OSS Sequencer: *(SND_SEQUENCER_OSS) (No option for module compile)
  RTC Timer support M (SND_RTCTIMER)
   Use RTC as default sequencer timer * (SND_SEQ_RTCTIMER_DEFAULT)
  Verbose printk NOT SET
  Debug  NOT SET (perhaps I should enable this amnd look at the output??)
 generic devices:
  Dummy soundcard M (SND_DUMMY)
  Virtual MIDI soundcard M (SND_VIRMIDI)
  MOTU MidiTimePiece AV multiport MIDI M (SND_MTPAV)
  UART16550 serial MIDI driver M (SND_SERIAL_U16550)
  Generic MPU- UART driver M (SND_MPU401)
 PCI devices:
  Intel /SIS/nVidia/AMD/ALI AC97 Controller M (SND_INTEL8X0) ONLY
 USB devices : NONE
 OSS: NOT CONFIGURED

This is the same config as before (2.6.13 rc6 git4), with the following
exceptions for new code:

SND_AC97_CODEC did not exist, now M
SND_AC97_BUS did not exist, now M
SND_HWDEP was M, no longer exists
SND_SEQ_RTCTIMER_DEFAULT did not exist, now *
SND_ICE1724 was M by mistake, no longer configured
SND_USB_AUDIO was M, no longer set
SND_USB_USX2Y was M, no longer set

loaded sound modules are as follows:
$ lsmod |grep snd
snd_intel8x0   29596  1
snd_ac97_codec 93472  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_ac97_bus1856  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm80392  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer  20548  1 snd_pcm
snd46564  6 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore   7264  1 snd
snd_page_alloc  8648  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm

(I took out the oss mixer and oss pcm stuff for a clean alsa system and
did a depmod in case this was screwing me up)

I have modified /etc/modultils/alsa-base and changed:

options snd-intel8x0m index=-2
to
options snd-intel8x0m index=0

(don't know what this does, but others have done it, so thought I should
do the same)

Otherwise I'm using the stock alsa-base file 

Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out. -- new weirdnesses

2005-12-19 Thread Nick
On 19/12/05, Marius Schrecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My current mixer settings (from alsamixer console mode) are:

 Master: 71%
 Master Mono: Mute
 PCM: 100%
 ...
 IEC958:PCM
 IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA : 0%
 IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA Capture : 0%
 Capture: 100%
 Mix: Capture set
 External Amplifier: Set

Marius,

Although using a different soundcard (ATI IXP150) I checked my mixer
settings and have the following (note my IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA
setting is at 3 (100%) whereas yours above is at 0%. I remember having
to set this to 100% before anything would come out of my digital
receiver).

control.33 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'IEC958 Playback Switch'
value true
}
control.34 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 3'
iface MIXER
name 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA'
value 3
}
control.35 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type ENUMERATED
comment.count 1
comment.item.0 AC-Link
comment.item.1 'A/D Converter'
iface MIXER
name 'IEC958 Playback Source'
value AC-Link
}

 What does the output from /proc/asound/devices mean? It looks as if both
 Card 0 device 2 and card 0 device 0 are set as digital output devices??

I get similar, and only have a single SPDIF-out (no input):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]$ cat /proc/asound/devices
  0: [0- 0]: ctl
 17: [0- 1]: digital audio playback
 16: [0- 0]: digital audio playback
 24: [0- 0]: digital audio capture
 33:   : timer

(I understand that the first number represents the minor number of the
device - check the snddevices script that comes with the ALSA source).

I'd still check the IEC958 mixer settings (play some audio in a loop
whilst you are checking settings) - at least this is the way I
determined what settings were required for my card.

Nick
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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-18 Thread Johan Kihlström
sön 2005-12-18 klockan 01:15 + skrev Nick:
 On 18/12/05, Johan Kihlström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a similar setup as above and just did aplay somesoundfile.wav and
  it went out the right way(through spdif into SurroundrReciever)
 
  A lot of hours compiling an googling felt very worthwhile at that point.
  Now if only I could get Xine to output to spdif instead of crashing...
 
 Johan,
 
 When I got xine working with my SPDIF output, the only lines I needed
 to check (in ~/.xine/config) were:
 
 # device used for stereo output
 audio.device.alsa_front_device:default
 
 # pass through to SPDIF
 audio.output.speaker_arrangement:Pass Through
 
 My default PCM device is my SPDIF output (configured using Mike Dean
 excellent Digital Sound HOWTO), after specifying the speaker option,
 everything worked immediately, and my blue Dolby Digital light lit up
 as soon as I played a DVD.
 
 The other SPDIF related entries were OK left at their defaults:
 
 #audio.device.alsa_passthrough_device:iec958:AES0=0x6,AES1=0x82,AES2=0x0,AES3=0x2
 #audio.device.alsa_surround51_device:plug:surround51:0
 
 Do you get any errors when xine crashes?
 
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Hi Nick,

I have 

audio.device.alsa_front_device:default and
audio.output.speaker_arrangement:Pass Through set.

also the 

#audio.device.alsa_passthrough_device:iec958:AES0=0x6,AES1=0x82,AES2=0x0,AES3=0x2
 #audio.device.alsa_surround51_device:plug:surround51:0

bits.

When trying to play I get : Audio device not available, please check if
yada, yada.

Only software running the audio device is Xine AFAIK.

In the xine log there's :

audio_decoder error : unknown buffer type 0106
audio_decoder error : unknown buffer type 0200
audio_decoder error : unknown buffer type 0400


Been googling and fussing around for a couple of days now and haven't
got to the end of it yet. A bit frustrating really, as this was the
final hurdle to get a brand new gentoox installation running flawlessly
on my Xbox with 5.1 sound from all DVB channels that provide it, besides
running the DVD's with the best sound possible.

Best regards  happy holidays!

Johan



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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-18 Thread Phill Edwards
 Does setting the mixer to digital allow volume control from mythtv of
 the digital out? I'd like to be able to do that.  Also I'd like to be
 able have both analog and digital have the same output, is that
 possible?

Don't think so - by which I mean I haven't been able to get it work!
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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-18 Thread Nick
On 18/12/05, Johan Kihlström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sön 2005-12-18 klockan 01:15 + skrev Nick:
  On 18/12/05, Johan Kihlström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have a similar setup as above and just did aplay somesoundfile.wav and
   it went out the right way(through spdif into SurroundrReciever)
  
   A lot of hours compiling an googling felt very worthwhile at that point.
   Now if only I could get Xine to output to spdif instead of crashing...
 
  Johan,
 
  When I got xine working with my SPDIF output, the only lines I needed
  to check (in ~/.xine/config) were:
 
  # device used for stereo output
  audio.device.alsa_front_device:default
 
  # pass through to SPDIF
  audio.output.speaker_arrangement:Pass Through
 
  My default PCM device is my SPDIF output (configured using Mike Dean
  excellent Digital Sound HOWTO), after specifying the speaker option,
  everything worked immediately, and my blue Dolby Digital light lit up
  as soon as I played a DVD.
 
  The other SPDIF related entries were OK left at their defaults:
 
  #audio.device.alsa_passthrough_device:iec958:AES0=0x6,AES1=0x82,AES2=0x0,AES3=0x2
  #audio.device.alsa_surround51_device:plug:surround51:0
 
  Do you get any errors when xine crashes?
 
  Nick
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 Hi Nick,

 I have

 audio.device.alsa_front_device:default and
 audio.output.speaker_arrangement:Pass Through set.

 also the

 #audio.device.alsa_passthrough_device:iec958:AES0=0x6,AES1=0x82,AES2=0x0,AES3=0x2
  #audio.device.alsa_surround51_device:plug:surround51:0

 bits.

 When trying to play I get : Audio device not available, please check if
 yada, yada.

 Only software running the audio device is Xine AFAIK.

 In the xine log there's :

 audio_decoder error : unknown buffer type 0106
 audio_decoder error : unknown buffer type 0200
 audio_decoder error : unknown buffer type 0400


 Been googling and fussing around for a couple of days now and haven't
 got to the end of it yet. A bit frustrating really, as this was the
 final hurdle to get a brand new gentoox installation running flawlessly
 on my Xbox with 5.1 sound from all DVB channels that provide it, besides
 running the DVD's with the best sound possible.

What is the output of 'aplay -l' and 'aplay -L' - maybe an incorrect
device is being used? Are you using a customised .asoundrc file?

I'd also make sure the KDE sound server is disabled (if using KDE).

 Best regards  happy holidays!

And to you too!

Nick
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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-17 Thread Marius Schrecker
 I finally got it working.

 Here is what I did to enable spdif output to my amp when I switched from a
 SB Live! 5.1 analog surround card to the on-board audio on my Asus
 motherboard.

 The obvious first step was to remove the SB Live! Card from the PC. During
 the Power On Self Test (POST), I entered the BIOS settings and enabled the
 on-board audio. Saved the settings ant continued with the boot up.

 KDE informed me that the default audio device was missing. I went to the
 Start menu -- System Settings -- Soundcard Detection. KDE found my
 Soundcard and played a test tune. The analog sound was coming out of my TV
 Speakers and nothing was coming out of my Receiver.

 I opened up a terminal and typed alsamixer.  I was given an error message
 :

 alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such file or
 directory.

 Googling for that error led me to believe that my modprob.conf file was to
 blame so. . .

 # (any text editor) /etc/modprob.conf

 -Before--

 alias eth0 sk98lin
 options snd-emu10k1 index=0
 remove snd-emu10k1 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 2
 1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-emu10k1
 alias char-major-81 cx8800
 alias usb-controller ehci-hcd
 alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd
 alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394
 # nvidia kernel module
 alias char-major-195 nvidia-1_0-7174
 alias nvidia nvidia-1_0-7174
 options snd-intel8x0 index=1
 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 1 /dev/null 21 || : ; };
 /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
 options snd-card-0 index=0
 options snd-intel8x0 index=0
 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 21 || : ; };
 /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0

 The intel8x0 is my on-board audio device, and the emu10k1 was my old card.
 I
 commented out the lines referencing my old sound card and made a few
 number
 changes in the file. This is my file after editing it.

 ---After

 alias eth0 sk98lin
 #options snd-emu10k1 index=0
 #remove snd-emu10k1 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 2
 1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-emu10k1
 alias char-major-81 cx8800
 alias usb-controller ehci-hcd
 alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd
 alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394
 # nvidia kernel module
 alias char-major-195 nvidia-1_0-7174
 alias nvidia nvidia-1_0-7174
 #changed index=1 to index=0 and ... store 1 to store 0
 options snd-intel8x0 index=0
 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 21 || : ; };
 /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
 options snd-card-0 index=0
 options snd-intel8x0 index=0
 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 21 || : ; };
 /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0

 I rebooted and still no dice. Same error message from alsamixer. I tried
 creating a .asoundrc file like like the example on the ALSA website.

 $ vi /home/mythtv/.asoundrc

 pcm.intel8x0 {
type hw
card 0
 }

 ctl.intel8x0 {
type hw
card 0
 }

 Still no digital sound. I attempt to run alsamixer and receive this error
 message:

 alsamixer: relocation error: alsamixer: symbol
 snd_mixer_selem_get_playback_dB, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file
 libasound.so.2 with link time reference

 After a few Google’s, I find out what needs to be done.
 It is time to update drivers and such. But first a little house cleaning.

 # mv /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 moved.libasound.so.2
 # mv /usr/lib/libasound.so.2.0.0 moved.libasound/so/2/0/0

 --- I later went back and deleted them but you can’t be too careful ---

 # yum install alsa-utils
 # yum install alsa-lib
 # yum install alsa-driver

 I tried alsamixer again and it worked.
 In alsamixer I un-muted IEC958, turned ICE958 Playback all the way down,
 set
 ICE958 Playback source to [AC-Link], un-muted External Amplifier, turned
 PCM and Master up to 90%. ESC to exit.

 --- I don’t know if all of this was necessary, but it worked for me. ---

 I started up mythfrontend, and navigated to Utilities/Setup - Setup -
 General. On the 3rd page I selected “Enable AC3 to SPDIF passthrough” and
 “Audio output device” was already on “/dev/dsp”.
 Finish going through the menu’s in order to make the settings take effect.
 After I verified that it worked, I spent a few minutes patting myself on
 the
 back, and then decided to save my settings.

 #  /usr/sbin/alsactl store

 --  That’s it. I hope someone can find this information useful. -Mat


I'm baffld about this.

Yes I have the libasound2 libraries installed, but these are essential,
not only to alsa, but also to about 100 other packages. There is no
alternative on my Debian system. Here are the alsa relataed packages I
have installed:

 $ dpkg -l *alsa* |grep ii
ii  alsa-base  1.0.10-3   ALSA driver
configuration files
ii  alsa-oss   1.0.10-1   ALSA wrapper for OSS
applications
ii  alsa-utils 1.0.10-1 

Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-17 Thread Joacim J
On 12/17/05, Marius Schrecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I finally got it working. Here is what I did to enable spdif output to my amp when I switched from a SB Live! 5.1 analog surround card to the on-board audio on my Asus motherboard.
 The obvious first step was to remove the SB Live! Card from the PC. During the Power On Self Test (POST), I entered the BIOS settings and enabled the on-board audio. Saved the settings ant continued with the boot up.
 KDE informed me that the default audio device was missing. I went to the Start menu -- System Settings -- Soundcard Detection. KDE found my Soundcard and played a test tune. The analog sound was coming out of my TV
 Speakers and nothing was coming out of my Receiver. I opened up a terminal and typed alsamixer.I was given an error message : alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such file or
 directory. Googling for that error led me to believe that my modprob.conf file was to blame so. . . # (any text editor) /etc/modprob.conf -Before--
 alias eth0 sk98lin options snd-emu10k1 index=0 remove snd-emu10k1 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 2 1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-emu10k1 alias char-major-81 cx8800
 alias usb-controller ehci-hcd alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394 # nvidia kernel module alias char-major-195 nvidia-1_0-7174 alias nvidia nvidia-1_0-7174
 options snd-intel8x0 index=1 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 1 /dev/null 21 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
 options snd-card-0 index=0 options snd-intel8x0 index=0 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 21 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
 The intel8x0 is my on-board audio device, and the emu10k1 was my old card. I commented out the lines referencing my old sound card and made a few number changes in the file. This is my file after editing it.
 ---After alias eth0 sk98lin #options snd-emu10k1 index=0 #remove snd-emu10k1 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 2 1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-emu10k1
 alias char-major-81 cx8800 alias usb-controller ehci-hcd alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394 # nvidia kernel module alias char-major-195 nvidia-1_0-7174
 alias nvidia nvidia-1_0-7174 #changed index=1 to index=0 and ... store 1 to store 0 options snd-intel8x0 index=0 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 21 || : ; };
 /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 options snd-card-0 index=0 options snd-intel8x0 index=0 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 21 || : ; };
 /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 I rebooted and still no dice. Same error message from alsamixer. I tried creating a .asoundrc file like like the example on the ALSA website.
 $ vi /home/mythtv/.asoundrc pcm.intel8x0 {type hwcard 0 } ctl.intel8x0 {type hwcard 0 } Still no digital sound. I attempt to run alsamixer and receive this error
 message: alsamixer: relocation error: alsamixer: symbol snd_mixer_selem_get_playback_dB, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference After a few Google's, I find out what needs to be done.
 It is time to update drivers and such. But first a little house cleaning. # mv /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 moved.libasound.so.2 # mv /usr/lib/libasound.so.2.0.0 moved.libasound/so/2/0/0
 --- I later went back and deleted them but you can't be too careful --- # yum install alsa-utils # yum install alsa-lib # yum install alsa-driver I tried alsamixer again and it worked.
 In alsamixer I un-muted IEC958, turned ICE958 Playback all the way down, set ICE958 Playback source to [AC-Link], un-muted External Amplifier, turned PCM and Master up to 90%. ESC to exit.
 --- I don't know if all of this was necessary, but it worked for me. --- I started up mythfrontend, and navigated to Utilities/Setup - Setup - General. On the 3rd page I selected "Enable AC3 to SPDIF passthrough" and
 "Audio output device" was already on "/dev/dsp". Finish going through the menu's in order to make the settings take effect. After I verified that it worked, I spent a few minutes patting myself on
 the back, and then decided to save my settings. #/usr/sbin/alsactl store --That's it. I hope someone can find this information useful. -Mat
I am trying to get my SPDIF to work. I have an onboard soundcard (ASUS A8V Deluxe with VIA chipset)/sbin/lspci -v00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
 Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc.: Unknown device 812a Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 5 I/O ports at e800 [size=256] Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ~]$ vi /home/mythtv/.asoundrcpcm.via82xx { type hw card 0}ctl.via82xx { type hw card 0}I can turn up alsamixer just fine but can't get any sound to the SPDIF (connected to a 

Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-17 Thread Joacim J
On 12/17/05, Joacim J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/17/05, Marius Schrecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I finally got it working. Here is what I did to enable spdif output to my amp when I switched from a SB Live! 5.1 analog surround card to the on-board audio on my Asus motherboard.

 The obvious first step was to remove the SB Live! Card from the PC. During the Power On Self Test (POST), I entered the BIOS settings and enabled the on-board audio. Saved the settings ant continued with the boot up.
 KDE informed me that the default audio device was missing. I went to the Start menu -- System Settings -- Soundcard Detection. KDE found my Soundcard and played a test tune. The analog sound was coming out of my TV
 Speakers and nothing was coming out of my Receiver. I opened up a terminal and typed alsamixer.I was given an error message : alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such file or
 directory. Googling for that error led me to believe that my modprob.conf file was to blame so. . . # (any text editor) /etc/modprob.conf -Before--

 alias eth0 sk98lin options snd-emu10k1 index=0 remove snd-emu10k1 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 2 1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-emu10k1 alias char-major-81 cx8800
 alias usb-controller ehci-hcd alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394 # nvidia kernel module alias char-major-195 nvidia-1_0-7174 alias nvidia nvidia-1_0-7174
 options snd-intel8x0 index=1 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 1 /dev/null 21 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
 options snd-card-0 index=0 options snd-intel8x0 index=0 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 21 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0

 The intel8x0 is my on-board audio device, and the emu10k1 was my old card. I commented out the lines referencing my old sound card and made a few number changes in the file. This is my file after editing it.
 ---After alias eth0 sk98lin #options snd-emu10k1 index=0 #remove snd-emu10k1 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 2 1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-emu10k1
 alias char-major-81 cx8800 alias usb-controller ehci-hcd alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394 # nvidia kernel module alias char-major-195 nvidia-1_0-7174
 alias nvidia nvidia-1_0-7174 #changed index=1 to index=0 and ... store 1 to store 0 options snd-intel8x0 index=0 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 21 || : ; };
 /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 options snd-card-0 index=0 options snd-intel8x0 index=0 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 21 || : ; };
 /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 I rebooted and still no dice. Same error message from alsamixer. I tried creating a .asoundrc file like like the example on the ALSA website.
 $ vi /home/mythtv/.asoundrc pcm.intel8x0 {type hwcard 0 } ctl.intel8x0 {type hwcard 0 } Still no digital sound. I attempt to run alsamixer and receive this error
 message: alsamixer: relocation error: alsamixer: symbol snd_mixer_selem_get_playback_dB, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference After a few Google's, I find out what needs to be done.
 It is time to update drivers and such. But first a little house cleaning. # mv /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 moved.libasound.so.2 # mv /usr/lib/libasound.so.2.0.0 moved.libasound/so/2/0/0
 --- I later went back and deleted them but you can't be too careful --- # yum install alsa-utils # yum install alsa-lib # yum install alsa-driver I tried alsamixer again and it worked.
 In alsamixer I un-muted IEC958, turned ICE958 Playback all the way down, set ICE958 Playback source to [AC-Link], un-muted External Amplifier, turned PCM and Master up to 90%. ESC to exit.
 --- I don't know if all of this was necessary, but it worked for me. --- I started up mythfrontend, and navigated to Utilities/Setup - Setup - General. On the 3rd page I selected Enable AC3 to SPDIF passthrough and
 Audio output device was already on /dev/dsp. Finish going through the menu's in order to make the settings take effect. After I verified that it worked, I spent a few minutes patting myself on
 the back, and then decided to save my settings. #/usr/sbin/alsactl store --That's it. I hope someone can find this information useful. -Mat

I am trying to get my SPDIF to work. I have an onboard soundcard (ASUS A8V Deluxe with VIA chipset)/sbin/lspci -v00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
 Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc.: Unknown device 812a Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 5 I/O ports at e800 [size=256] Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 ~]$ vi /home/mythtv/.asoundrcpcm.via82xx { type hw card 0}ctl.via82xx { type hw card 0}I can turn up alsamixer just fine but can't get 

Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-17 Thread Joacim J
On 12/17/05, Joacim J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hmmm, I have some sound when running:

/usr/bin/aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav

But the volume is very low and having 100% volume in alsamixer

Sorry for not testing enough before posting.

Increasing VIA DXS was the solution 

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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-17 Thread Marius Schrecker
From previous post:

 Could someone with working spdiff post the output from
 alsactl store -f somefile ?

 as it looks like not all the controls are visible in the mixers.


I'm still not having any luck with this.

Would really love it if someone with a working nVidia CK804 digital out
could post the output from alsactl . as it's the only way to see what the
mixer settings really are.

Here's mine (not working):

$ alsactl store -f ~/alsastate
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat alsastate
state.CK804 {
control.1 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Master Playback Switch'
value true
}
control.2 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 31'
iface MIXER
name 'Master Playback Volume'
value.0 22
value.1 29
}
control.3 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Center Playback Switch'
value false
}
control.4 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 31'
iface MIXER
name 'Center Playback Volume'
value 31
}
control.5 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'LFE Playback Switch'
value false
}
control.6 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 31'
iface MIXER
name 'LFE Playback Volume'
value 0
}
control.7 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Surround Playback Switch'
value.0 false
value.1 false
}
control.8 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 31'
iface MIXER
name 'Surround Playback Volume'
value.0 0
value.1 0
}
control.9 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Master Mono Playback Switch'
value false
}
control.10 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 31'
iface MIXER
name 'Master Mono Playback Volume'
value 31
}
control.11 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'PC Speaker Playback Switch'
value false
}
control.12 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 15'
iface MIXER
name 'PC Speaker Playback Volume'
value 0
}
control.13 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Phone Playback Switch'
value true
}
control.14 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 31'
iface MIXER
name 'Phone Playback Volume'
value 0
}
control.15 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Mic Playback Switch'
value false
}
control.16 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 31'
iface MIXER
name 'Mic Playback Volume'
value 0
}
control.17 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Mic Boost 

RE: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-17 Thread James C. Dastrup
I might suggest that all alsa utilities, alsactl, and everything else is NOT 
required
to use digital out with MythTV.  I'm using MythTV 0.18.1 on Gentoo and I only
have the necessary alsa drivers compiled in the kernel. I've never used 
alsamixer
or alsactl, or installed/emerged alsa-utils, alsamixer, aplay, or anything else 
alsa related. I'm not starting any alsa services during startup. The only thing 
I did is:
 
Enable alsa support and driver in the kernel.
Put .asoundrc in my home directory.
Set MythTV as follows:
  -Enable AC3
  -Device = ALSA:digital
  -Mixer = digital
 
and that's it.  I also have all the other mythplugins working by setting their 
device
to ALSA:digital. Is my setup unique, or are people doing more than need to
to get digital audio working?
 
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RE: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-17 Thread Marius Schrecker
 I might suggest that all alsa utilities, alsactl, and everything else is
 NOT required
 to use digital out with MythTV.  I'm using MythTV 0.18.1 on Gentoo and I
 only
 have the necessary alsa drivers compiled in the kernel. I've never used
 alsamixer
 or alsactl, or installed/emerged alsa-utils, alsamixer, aplay, or anything
 else
 alsa related. I'm not starting any alsa services during startup. The only
 thing I did is:

 Enable alsa support and driver in the kernel.
 Put .asoundrc in my home directory.
 Set MythTV as follows:
   -Enable AC3
   -Device = ALSA:digital
   -Mixer = digital

 and that's it.  I also have all the other mythplugins working by setting
 their device
 to ALSA:digital. Is my setup unique, or are people doing more than need to
 to get digital audio working?


The simpler the better. I don't care how little is installed as long as I
can get digital output, so far no go, everything looks as if it should be
working, just no sound :(

I'd love to know how to test spdiff out as simply as possible, if I can
bypass aplay then so much the better!
Can I stream a 48KHz file straight to spdiff out?

Marius


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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-17 Thread Nick
On 17/12/05, Marius Schrecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I might suggest that all alsa utilities, alsactl, and everything else is
  NOT required
  to use digital out with MythTV.  I'm using MythTV 0.18.1 on Gentoo and I
  only
  have the necessary alsa drivers compiled in the kernel. I've never used
  alsamixer
  or alsactl, or installed/emerged alsa-utils, alsamixer, aplay, or anything
  else
  alsa related. I'm not starting any alsa services during startup. The only
  thing I did is:
 
  Enable alsa support and driver in the kernel.
  Put .asoundrc in my home directory.
  Set MythTV as follows:
-Enable AC3
-Device = ALSA:digital
-Mixer = digital
 
  and that's it.  I also have all the other mythplugins working by setting
  their device
  to ALSA:digital. Is my setup unique, or are people doing more than need to
  to get digital audio working?
 

 The simpler the better. I don't care how little is installed as long as I
 can get digital output, so far no go, everything looks as if it should be
 working, just no sound :(

 I'd love to know how to test spdiff out as simply as possible, if I can
 bypass aplay then so much the better!
 Can I stream a 48KHz file straight to spdiff out?

You can use aplay -D pcmdevice and then send it out of your spdif
whilst testing. You can get a list of all PCM devices by running aplay
-L - choose one that your SPDIF is aliased to (commonly spdif) and see
if you get any sound.

The digital sound HOWTO really does explain everything you should need
to do to get SPDIF output - the one hurdle is commonly determining
which controls in the mixer need to be set to allow this. In my most
basic asoundrc file (which sounds everything by default to my SPDIF) I
have used:

pcm.!default {
type hw
card 0
device 1
}

The card/device to specify can be determined using `aplay -l` - for my
system my SPDIF was given as device 1 - yours may be different. Note
that this device expects 48kHz audio - if it's not the same format it
may play back too slow/fast or not at all. The excellent asoundrc in
the HOWTO uses the plug and dmix plugins to allow on-the-fly rate
conversion.

Nick
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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-17 Thread Nick
On 18/12/05, Johan Kihlström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a similar setup as above and just did aplay somesoundfile.wav and
 it went out the right way(through spdif into SurroundrReciever)

 A lot of hours compiling an googling felt very worthwhile at that point.
 Now if only I could get Xine to output to spdif instead of crashing...

Johan,

When I got xine working with my SPDIF output, the only lines I needed
to check (in ~/.xine/config) were:

# device used for stereo output
audio.device.alsa_front_device:default

# pass through to SPDIF
audio.output.speaker_arrangement:Pass Through

My default PCM device is my SPDIF output (configured using Mike Dean
excellent Digital Sound HOWTO), after specifying the speaker option,
everything worked immediately, and my blue Dolby Digital light lit up
as soon as I played a DVD.

The other SPDIF related entries were OK left at their defaults:

#audio.device.alsa_passthrough_device:iec958:AES0=0x6,AES1=0x82,AES2=0x0,AES3=0x2
#audio.device.alsa_surround51_device:plug:surround51:0

Do you get any errors when xine crashes?

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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-17 Thread Paul V. Gratz
On Saturday 17 December 2005 04:59 pm, James C. Dastrup wrote:
 I might suggest that all alsa utilities, alsactl, and everything else is NOT 
 required
 to use digital out with MythTV.  I'm using MythTV 0.18.1 on Gentoo and I only
 have the necessary alsa drivers compiled in the kernel. I've never used 
 alsamixer
 or alsactl, or installed/emerged alsa-utils, alsamixer, aplay, or anything 
 else 
 alsa related. I'm not starting any alsa services during startup. The only 
 thing I did is:
  
 Enable alsa support and driver in the kernel.
 Put .asoundrc in my home directory.
 Set MythTV as follows:
   -Enable AC3
   -Device = ALSA:digital
   -Mixer = digital
  
 and that's it.  I also have all the other mythplugins working by setting 
 their device
 to ALSA:digital. Is my setup unique, or are people doing more than need to
 to get digital audio working?
  
 

Does setting the mixer to digital allow volume control from mythtv of
the digital out? I'd like to be able to do that.  Also I'd like to be
able have both analog and digital have the same output, is that
possible?

Thanks!
Paul




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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-16 Thread Marius Schrecker
 I finally got it working.

 Here is what I did to enable spdif output to my amp when I switched from a
 SB Live! 5.1 analog surround card to the on-board audio on my Asus
 motherboard.

 The obvious first step was to remove the SB Live! Card from the PC. During
 the Power On Self Test (POST), I entered the BIOS settings and enabled the
 on-board audio. Saved the settings ant continued with the boot up.

 KDE informed me that the default audio device was missing. I went to the
 Start menu -- System Settings -- Soundcard Detection. KDE found my
 Soundcard and played a test tune. The analog sound was coming out of my TV
 Speakers and nothing was coming out of my Receiver.

 I opened up a terminal and typed alsamixer.  I was given an error message
 :

 alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such file or
 directory.

 Googling for that error led me to believe that my modprob.conf file was to
 blame so. . .

 # (any text editor) /etc/modprob.conf

 -Before--

 alias eth0 sk98lin
 options snd-emu10k1 index=0
 remove snd-emu10k1 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 2
 1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-emu10k1
 alias char-major-81 cx8800
 alias usb-controller ehci-hcd
 alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd
 alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394
 # nvidia kernel module
 alias char-major-195 nvidia-1_0-7174
 alias nvidia nvidia-1_0-7174
 options snd-intel8x0 index=1
 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 1 /dev/null 21 || : ; };
 /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
 options snd-card-0 index=0
 options snd-intel8x0 index=0
 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 21 || : ; };
 /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0

 The intel8x0 is my on-board audio device, and the emu10k1 was my old card.
 I
 commented out the lines referencing my old sound card and made a few
 number
 changes in the file. This is my file after editing it.

 ---After

 alias eth0 sk98lin
 #options snd-emu10k1 index=0
 #remove snd-emu10k1 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 2
 1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-emu10k1
 alias char-major-81 cx8800
 alias usb-controller ehci-hcd
 alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd
 alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394
 # nvidia kernel module
 alias char-major-195 nvidia-1_0-7174
 alias nvidia nvidia-1_0-7174
 #changed index=1 to index=0 and ... store 1 to store 0
 options snd-intel8x0 index=0
 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 21 || : ; };
 /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
 options snd-card-0 index=0
 options snd-intel8x0 index=0
 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 21 || : ; };
 /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0

 I rebooted and still no dice. Same error message from alsamixer. I tried
 creating a .asoundrc file like like the example on the ALSA website.

 $ vi /home/mythtv/.asoundrc

 pcm.intel8x0 {
type hw
card 0
 }

 ctl.intel8x0 {
type hw
card 0
 }

 Still no digital sound. I attempt to run alsamixer and receive this error
 message:

 alsamixer: relocation error: alsamixer: symbol
 snd_mixer_selem_get_playback_dB, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file
 libasound.so.2 with link time reference

 After a few Google’s, I find out what needs to be done.
 It is time to update drivers and such. But first a little house cleaning.

 # mv /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 moved.libasound.so.2
 # mv /usr/lib/libasound.so.2.0.0 moved.libasound/so/2/0/0

 --- I later went back and deleted them but you can’t be too careful ---

 # yum install alsa-utils
 # yum install alsa-lib
 # yum install alsa-driver

 I tried alsamixer again and it worked.
 In alsamixer I un-muted IEC958, turned ICE958 Playback all the way down,
 set
 ICE958 Playback source to [AC-Link], un-muted External Amplifier, turned
 PCM and Master up to 90%. ESC to exit.

 --- I don’t know if all of this was necessary, but it worked for me. ---

 I started up mythfrontend, and navigated to Utilities/Setup - Setup -
 General. On the 3rd page I selected “Enable AC3 to SPDIF passthrough” and
 “Audio output device” was already on “/dev/dsp”.
 Finish going through the menu’s in order to make the settings take effect.
 After I verified that it worked, I spent a few minutes patting myself on
 the
 back, and then decided to save my settings.

 #  /usr/sbin/alsactl store

 --  That’s it. I hope someone can find this information useful. -Mat

Thanks! I may well find the last bit very useful! I have the libasound2
libs installed and have been banging my head tyrying to det spdiff out
working (and it was working fine on the same box in a previous
incarnation).

Will try doing what you suggested with the libasound libraries.

Cheers

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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-16 Thread Phill Edwards
 I tried alsamixer again and it worked.
 In alsamixer I un-muted IEC958, turned ICE958 Playback all the way down, set
 ICE958 Playback source to [AC-Link], un-muted External Amplifier, turned
 PCM and Master up to 90%. ESC to exit.

I have the same intel8x0 on-board sound as you. I wanted to try what
you've done but don't know how to set the IEC958 source in alsamixer -
how do you do that? The only thing I can work out how to do in
alsamixer is mute/unmute and adjust volume levels.

You don't have any screenshots of your alsamixer settings do youm,
which you could share? It's easier to underdtand your config that way.

Thanks,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-16 Thread Phill Edwards
 Thanks! I may well find the last bit very useful! I have the libasound2
 libs installed and have been banging my head tyrying to det spdiff out
 working (and it was working fine on the same box in a previous
 incarnation).

 Will try doing what you suggested with the libasound libraries.

Interested to see how you get on as I also have libasound2 not libasound.

Regards,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-16 Thread Phill Edwards
 I tried alsamixer again and it worked.
 In alsamixer I un-muted IEC958, turned ICE958 Playback all the way down, set
 ICE958 Playback source to [AC-Link], un-muted External Amplifier, turned
 PCM and Master up to 90%. ESC to exit.

 --- I don't know if all of this was necessary, but it worked for me. ---

 I started up mythfrontend, and navigated to Utilities/Setup - Setup -
 General. On the 3rd page I selected Enable AC3 to SPDIF passthrough and
 Audio output device was already on /dev/dsp.
 Finish going through the menu's in order to make the settings take effect.
 After I verified that it worked, I spent a few minutes patting myself on the
 back, and then decided to save my settings.

My setup has the 'Audio output device' set to ALS:mixed-digital, Does
anyone know what I need to do to be able to control the volume with my
Myth remote rather than the receiver's remote?
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Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Configuring SPDIF digital out.

2005-12-16 Thread Marius Schrecker
 I tried alsamixer again and it worked.
 In alsamixer I un-muted IEC958, turned ICE958 Playback all the way down,
 set
 ICE958 Playback source to [AC-Link], un-muted External Amplifier, turned
 PCM and Master up to 90%. ESC to exit.

 I have the same intel8x0 on-board sound as you. I wanted to try what
 you've done but don't know how to set the IEC958 source in alsamixer -
 how do you do that? The only thing I can work out how to do in
 alsamixer is mute/unmute and adjust volume levels.

 You don't have any screenshots of your alsamixer settings do youm,
 which you could share? It's easier to underdtand your config that way.

 Thanks,
 Phill

If you're talking about the alsamixer you run from the console then TAB
will switch from ouput (mute/vol levels) to input (most of the stuff we
want) to all. Otherwise alsamixergui gnome-miser and kde mixer all seem to
have the same stuff, but it's confusing as the labelling and way the
switches are organized changes.

Marius

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