Re: [mythtv-users] Re: nvidia fx5200 help please badly needed
On Wednesday 29 Dec 2004 16:15, Isaac Richards wrote: > On Wednesday 29 December 2004 10:40 am, Brandon Beattie wrote: > > > > For the past, oh 4 months. Maybe it's just the blue theme, and yes I'm > > 100% sure I'm using XvMC. If I remember right, the limitation was two > > colors. My OSD is either white and blue or yellow and blue, but I'll > > have to check. I've disabled it for the last month to stop the frontend > > crashing when I seek in HD streams. (The other option was to hit esc > > before the OSD tried to fade out, as that appears to be what causes the > > video buffers in the nvidia cards to get filled and not release for more > > frames to be drawn. > > If you have a color osd, you are _NOT_ using XvMC, unless you've applied > Ivor Hewitt's work in progress patch. > Indeed, it will give you colour osd on NVidia XvMC but its very much "work in progress" and only tested on epia xvmc and probably only used by me at the moment. :-) -- Ivor Hewitt. http://www.ivor.it - tech | http://www.ivor.org - hedge ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: nvidia fx5200 help please badly needed
On Wednesday 29 December 2004 10:40 am, Brandon Beattie wrote: > On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 05:46:26PM -0500, Isaac Richards wrote: > > On Tuesday 28 December 2004 05:18 pm, Brandon Beattie wrote: > > > > Not really sure, from reading the list the obvious ones are a B&W on > > > > screen display and other OSD related issues. > > > > > > The OSD is not B&W any longer for XvMC on NVidia cards. > > > > Since when? > > > > Isaac > > For the past, oh 4 months. Maybe it's just the blue theme, and yes I'm > 100% sure I'm using XvMC. If I remember right, the limitation was two > colors. My OSD is either white and blue or yellow and blue, but I'll > have to check. I've disabled it for the last month to stop the frontend > crashing when I seek in HD streams. (The other option was to hit esc > before the OSD tried to fade out, as that appears to be what causes the > video buffers in the nvidia cards to get filled and not release for more > frames to be drawn. If you have a color osd, you are _NOT_ using XvMC, unless you've applied Ivor Hewitt's work in progress patch. Isaac ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: nvidia fx5200 help please badly needed
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 05:46:26PM -0500, Isaac Richards wrote: > On Tuesday 28 December 2004 05:18 pm, Brandon Beattie wrote: > > > Not really sure, from reading the list the obvious ones are a B&W on > > > screen display and other OSD related issues. > > > > The OSD is not B&W any longer for XvMC on NVidia cards. > > Since when? > > Isaac For the past, oh 4 months. Maybe it's just the blue theme, and yes I'm 100% sure I'm using XvMC. If I remember right, the limitation was two colors. My OSD is either white and blue or yellow and blue, but I'll have to check. I've disabled it for the last month to stop the frontend crashing when I seek in HD streams. (The other option was to hit esc before the OSD tried to fade out, as that appears to be what causes the video buffers in the nvidia cards to get filled and not release for more frames to be drawn. --Brandon ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: nvidia fx5200 help please badly needed
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 05:18 pm, Brandon Beattie wrote: > > Not really sure, from reading the list the obvious ones are a B&W on > > screen display and other OSD related issues. > > The OSD is not B&W any longer for XvMC on NVidia cards. Since when? Isaac ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: nvidia fx5200 help please badly needed
> Not really sure, from reading the list the obvious ones are a B&W on > screen display and other OSD related issues. The OSD is not B&W any longer for XvMC on NVidia cards. OSD can cause the display to lock when seeking but I've only ever had this happen on HD files, never SD that a pvr-x50 would encode. --Brandon ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: nvidia fx5200 help please badly needed
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 01:09:06PM -0600, Neil wrote: > >Kevin Kuphal writes: > >Short answer, no. The long answer is that you can compile MythTV with > >support for XvMC which does MPEG-2 acceleration with the FX5200. It has > >it's share of issues working with MythTV and I would consider it > >experimental but it promises to do the same thing that the PVR-350 is > >doing for you in accelerating the output. > > > > Thanks Kevin. Ok, so for now, I should not worry about. Then, what I really > need to do is go for the PVR-250 + Nvidia FX5200 card. Are the issues very > annoying? > > Thanks. > > Neil For non-HD, there really aren't any issues. Some seeking in HD material is causing problems, but that's all that I have seen lately. --Brandon ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Re: nvidia fx5200 help please badly needed
Just to say ditto - Using XvMC with the 5200 you get grayscale - w/o it everything works perfectly - smooth and non-pixelated. I thought XvMC was more for VIA anyway...Whatever the case, it is not needed with the 5200/PVR250 combo... -Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of PAUL WILLIAMSON Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mythtv-users@mythtv.org Subject: [mythtv-users] Re: nvidia fx5200 help please badly needed >>> Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/28/2004 3:33:58 PM >>> > Great to hear that! So what about that grey scale in OSD when using > xmvc, will that get fixed too? > > Thanks. > >Neil I have no idea what XvMC does, but I'm pretty sure I'm not using it. I have my machine set up using Jarod's guide, and I think it's disaled by default in ATrpms. Same deal for grey scale OSD. I'm not sure what all the isues are with it. My On screen display is just fine. I haven't fiddled with anything that would make the OSD more or less transparent, so I'm not sure if it's broken or if that's even what all the OSD hub-bub is about... Paul ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: nvidia fx5200 help please badly needed
PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/28/2004 3:33:58 PM Great to hear that! So what about that grey scale in OSD when using xmvc, will that get fixed too? Thanks. Neil I have no idea what XvMC does, but I'm pretty sure I'm not using it. I have my machine set up using Jarod's guide, and I think it's disaled by default in ATrpms. Same deal for grey scale OSD. I'm not sure what all the isues are with it. My On screen display is just fine. I haven't fiddled with anything that would make the OSD more or less transparent, so I'm not sure if it's broken or if that's even what all the OSD hub-bub is about... XvMC in a nutshell is MPEG-2 playback acceleration using the video card to do things in hardware normally done in software. If you have a capable processor, XvMC is unnecessary, but if you are using a low-end machine as a frontend, it could matter. I personally don't use it but that's what it is for. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: nvidia fx5200 help please badly needed
Neil wrote: Kevin Kuphal writes: Short answer, no. The long answer is that you can compile MythTV with support for XvMC which does MPEG-2 acceleration with the FX5200. It has it's share of issues working with MythTV and I would consider it experimental but it promises to do the same thing that the PVR-350 is doing for you in accelerating the output. Thanks Kevin. Ok, so for now, I should not worry about. Then, what I really need to do is go for the PVR-250 + Nvidia FX5200 card. Are the issues very annoying? Not really sure, from reading the list the obvious ones are a B&W on screen display and other OSD related issues. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: nvidia fx5200 help please badly needed
Neil wrote: Ok. Now, here is another question. I'm a little confused about doing a combo with FX5200 and the pvr cards. I know that PVR-250 doesn't have any mpeg decoder feature while as the PVR-350 have this kind of feature. If I buy the nvidia FX5200 card and PVR-350, will I still be able to use 350's mpeg decoding feature and have it tv-out on the FX5200 card? Short answer, no. The long answer is that you can compile MythTV with support for XvMC which does MPEG-2 acceleration with the FX5200. It has it's share of issues working with MythTV and I would consider it experimental but it promises to do the same thing that the PVR-350 is doing for you in accelerating the output. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: nvidia fx5200 help please badly needed
Nope. Neil wrote: Ok. Now, here is another question. I'm a little confused about doing a combo with FX5200 and the pvr cards. I know that PVR-250 doesn't have any mpeg decoder feature while as the PVR-350 have this kind of feature. If I buy the nvidia FX5200 card and PVR-350, will I still be able to use 350's mpeg decoding feature and have it tv-out on the FX5200 card? Thanks, Neil Brandon Beattie writes: They are all pretty much the same. The chip is what is important, not really who makes it. Some cards varry, but by so little it really doesn't make a difference for a HTPC. If you have an option of buying one with a fan or without, go for without if noise in the HTPC is important, otherwise the extra air doesn't hurt. Mine does not have a fan, but I've made sure the case fan moves air over the heatsink enough to keep the card and more important the cards around it cooler. I did have one fx5200 go bad, probably due to overheating in my old case which I filled to the max and it couldn't handle that. --Brandon On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 01:37:54AM -0600, Neil wrote: hey guys, I'm about to buy an Nvidia FX5200 PCI with DVI interface at newegg.com to build my own mythtv. But found out that there are many models of this. Which should I buy please? Please respond. I only wanted a PCI version as my board doesn't have an AGP slot. Thanks, Neil ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users -- ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users -- Michael J. Lynch What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about -- author unknown ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
