Re: [mythtv-users] X.org modeline for Samsung HLR5067W?

2006-01-13 Thread matthew . garman
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 10:44:14PM -0700, James C. Dastrup wrote:
 much.  Finally I learned that I didn't need a modeline and Xorg
 would determine the settings on its own using the PC Input. Now,
 the picture is perfect, with only a slight overscan, maybe 5-15
 pixels in each direction.  When watching TV,  a little overscan is
 _good_, since most broadcasts have a crappy edge because overscan

What video card do you have?  I'm assuming you have the resolution
set to 1280x720?

My video card is the geforce mx 440 (onboard GPU built into the
Chaintech 7NIF2 motherboard).  For this card, 1280x720 doesn't seem
to be a built in mode, so I'm *forced* to use the Modeline...
unless I'm missing something.

I'm using the same Modeline you posted in your original post right
now, with no overscan and just a slight black border.  It's *almost*
perfect, but I agree with you, a hint of overscan would be
preferable (if for no other reason than I paid a lot for this TV and
I don't want to lose a single inch of viewable area!).

Thanks again,
Matt

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Re: [mythtv-users] X.org modeline for Samsung HLR5067W?

2006-01-13 Thread Michael T. Dean
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 I'm using the same Modeline you posted in your original post right
 now, with no overscan and just a slight black border.  It's *almost*
 perfect, but I agree with you, a hint of overscan would be
 preferable (if for no other reason than I paid a lot for this TV and
 I don't want to lose a single inch of viewable area!).
   
I don't have the HL-Rxxx7W, but an HL-Rxxx8W, and it allows me to 
scale the image (from VGA input) so that I can set it up with a bit of 
overscan, so I would guess that the 7 series would do likewise.

Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] X.org modeline for Samsung HLR5067W?

2006-01-13 Thread James C. Dastrup
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 10:44:14PM -0700, James C. Dastrup wrote:
 much.  Finally I learned that I didn't need a modeline and Xorg
 would determine the settings on its own using the PC Input. Now,
 the picture is perfect, with only a slight overscan, maybe 5-15
 pixels in each direction.  When watching TV,  a little overscan is
 _good_, since most broadcasts have a crappy edge because overscan

What video card do you have?  I'm assuming you have the resolution
set to 1280x720?
 
I'm using an ATI 9600 SE at 1280x720

I'm using the same Modeline you posted in your original post right
now, with no overscan and just a slight black border.  It's *almost*
perfect, but I agree with you, a hint of overscan would be
preferable (if for no other reason than I paid a lot for this TV and
I don't want to lose a single inch of viewable area!).

 
Yes, the black border was there, until I used the TV's internal
adjustments to get rid of it.

 
 
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RE: [mythtv-users] X.org modeline for Samsung HLR5067W?

2006-01-08 Thread Moasat

I have the HLR5067W.  I'm currently using a nvidia FX5200, VGA out.
Its
also not perfect, I do have some black borders.  In a dark theater
room
though, they are not noticable.  I've always planned on using the
DVI
instead, I already have the cable, but swapping in a Windows drive
just to
run powerstrip is more than I feel like doing right now, just to
find what
looks good.
 
Have your tried changing the TV's aspect option from 16:9 to WidePC?
That should get rid of the black borders, at least it does on my
HLR6167.
That option is only available when using the PCInput, not DVI.  When
using DVI on these TV's, your options are much more limited. The PC
input allows you to resize, move up, down, left, right, etc.
 
Also, I went back and forth between DVI and PC input, and I could
not
tell a difference in quality - both were great.

Yes, I've tried that.  I figured I would eventually use that once I stop
fiddling with all the settings of the Linux and Myth.  I would have to use
the GUI offset and size option to center it and fit it on the screen since
WidePC causes the image to be cropped.  (I can't see the login prompt in
WidePC)

Also, I can notice a slight quality improvement when using DVI over VGA, but
usually only with a lot of text on the screen, especially during startup.
While watching video, it is much harder to detect - which is most of the
reason why I haven't done much fiddling with it yet.
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Re: [mythtv-users] X.org modeline for Samsung HLR5067W?

2006-01-08 Thread Steve Adeff
On Saturday 07 January 2006 21:34, Moasat wrote:
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  Subject: [mythtv-users] X.org modeline for Samsung HLR5067W?
 
 
  I've done a bit of searching, but can't seem to find a
  definitive answer to the question, what is the correct xorg
  modeline to use for the Samsung HLR5067W HDTV?
 
  This is about the best I've found thus far:
 
  Modeline 1280x720 79.159 1280 1424 1552 1760 720 723 730 750
 
  But it's still overscanned along the bottom edge, a bit too
  short and a bit too narrow (actually, it's probably the
  perfect height, but the TV adjustments won't let me move the
  picture up any more, so there's black along the top and it's
  cutoff on the bottom).
 
  I'm under the assumption that this modeline should also work
  for the whole HLRxx67W series of Samsung HDTVs (which
  includes HLR4667W, HLR5067W, HLR5667W, HLR6167W).
 
  Anyone have the silver bullet?
 
  Thanks,
  Matt
 
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 I have the HLR5067W.  I'm currently using a nvidia FX5200, VGA out.  Its
 also not perfect, I do have some black borders.  In a dark theater room
 though, they are not noticable.  I've always planned on using the DVI
 instead, I already have the cable, but swapping in a Windows drive just to
 run powerstrip is more than I feel like doing right now, just to find what
 looks good.

No need for Powerstrip, just look at the X log, the nvidia driver will tell 
you what the EDID information it receives from the TV connected via DVI tells 
it, which is exactly what powerstrip does.

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RE: [mythtv-users] X.org modeline for Samsung HLR5067W?

2006-01-08 Thread James C. Dastrup
Have your tried changing the TV's aspect option from 16:9 to WidePC? 
That should get rid of the black borders, at least it does on my 
 HLR6167. 
That option is only available when using the PCInput, not DVI.  When 
using DVI on these TV's, your options are much more limited. The PC 
input allows you to resize, move up, down, left, right, etc. 
 
Also, I went back and forth between DVI and PC input, and I could not 
tell a difference in quality - both were great. 

Yes, I've tried that.  I figured I would eventually use that once I stop 
fiddling with 
all the settings of the Linux and Myth.  I  would have to use the GUI offset 
and size
option to center it and fit it on the screen since WidePC causes the image to 
be 
cropped.  (I can't see the login prompt in WidePC)
 
To get around that problem, I use a console framebuffer splash with padding 
around the text.

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Re: [mythtv-users] X.org modeline for Samsung HLR5067W?

2006-01-07 Thread matthew . garman
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 07:00:26PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've done a bit of searching, but can't seem to find a definitive
 answer to the question, what is the correct xorg modeline to use
 for the Samsung HLR5067W HDTV?
 
 This is about the best I've found thus far:
 
 Modeline 1280x720 79.159 1280 1424 1552 1760 720 723 730 750

I should also add that I'm trying to run 1280x720 resolution, using
the VGA connector (since my video card doesn't have DVI).

Thanks again!
Matt

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Re: [mythtv-users] X.org modeline for Samsung HLR5067W?

2006-01-07 Thread Michael Haan
On 1/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 07:00:26PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: I've done a bit of searching, but can't seem to find a definitive answer to the question, what is the correct xorg modeline to use for the Samsung HLR5067W HDTV?
 This is about the best I've found thus far: Modeline 1280x720 79.159 1280 1424 1552 1760 720 723 730 750I should also add that I'm trying to run 1280x720 resolution, usingthe VGA connector (since my video card doesn't have DVI).
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Which one is this - sorry I don't want to dig out my docs to see if it's mine, so what size? - I have a working modeline, but it seems like you might be looking for perfect. Mine is pretty close with just the occasional thin green line on the right side.

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Re: [mythtv-users] X.org modeline for Samsung HLR5067W?

2006-01-07 Thread Joel Anderson
  I've done a bit of searching, but can't seem to find a definitive
  answer to the question, what is the correct xorg modeline to use
  for the Samsung HLR5067W HDTV?
 
  This is about the best I've found thus far:
 
  Modeline 1280x720 79.159 1280 1424 1552 1760 720 723 730 750

 I should also add that I'm trying to run 1280x720 resolution, using
 the VGA connector (since my video card doesn't have DVI).


I run the following on my HLP model via the DVI, maybe worth a try. 
Seemed to work well on the VGA when I tried it, but YMMV.

Modeline 1280x720 74.250 1280 1352 1392 1648 720 725 730 750 -hsync +vsync

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RE: [mythtv-users] X.org modeline for Samsung HLR5067W?

2006-01-07 Thread Moasat
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 Subject: [mythtv-users] X.org modeline for Samsung HLR5067W?


 I've done a bit of searching, but can't seem to find a
 definitive answer to the question, what is the correct xorg
 modeline to use for the Samsung HLR5067W HDTV?

 This is about the best I've found thus far:

 Modeline 1280x720 79.159 1280 1424 1552 1760 720 723 730 750

 But it's still overscanned along the bottom edge, a bit too
 short and a bit too narrow (actually, it's probably the
 perfect height, but the TV adjustments won't let me move the
 picture up any more, so there's black along the top and it's
 cutoff on the bottom).

 I'm under the assumption that this modeline should also work
 for the whole HLRxx67W series of Samsung HDTVs (which
 includes HLR4667W, HLR5067W, HLR5667W, HLR6167W).

 Anyone have the silver bullet?

 Thanks,
 Matt

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 Matt Garman
 email at: http://raw-sewage.net/index.php?file=email


I have the HLR5067W.  I'm currently using a nvidia FX5200, VGA out.  Its
also not perfect, I do have some black borders.  In a dark theater room
though, they are not noticable.  I've always planned on using the DVI
instead, I already have the cable, but swapping in a Windows drive just to
run powerstrip is more than I feel like doing right now, just to find what
looks good.

I'll be watching this thread with interest though to see if anyone has
something that looks better.


My current modeline:

ModeLine 1280x720 74.5 1280 1344 1472 1664 720 741 746 748 -hsync +vsync


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Re: [mythtv-users] X.org modeline for Samsung HLR5067W?

2006-01-07 Thread matthew . garman
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 08:09:34PM -0500, Michael Haan wrote:
 Which one is this - sorry I don't want to dig out my docs to see
 if it's mine, so what size? - I have a working modeline, but it
 seems like you might be looking for perfect.  Mine is pretty
 close with just the occasional thin green line on the right side.

It's the 50 inch DLP.  Here's the product link:

http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/DLPTV/HLR5067WAXXAA.asp

Although, if you have one of its brothers, the 46, 56 or 61 inch
models, I'd think the modeline is the same.

Thanks,
Matt

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RE: [mythtv-users] X.org modeline for Samsung HLR5067W?

2006-01-07 Thread James C. Dastrup
I've done a bit of searching, but can't seem to find a definitive
answer to the question, what is the correct xorg modeline to use
for the Samsung HLR5067W HDTV?

This is about the best I've found thus far:

Modeline 1280x720 79.159 1280 1424 1552 1760 720 723 730 750

But it's still overscanned along the bottom edge, a bit too short
and a bit too narrow (actually, it's probably the perfect height,
but the TV adjustments won't let me move the picture up any more, so
there's black along the top and it's cutoff on the bottom).

I'm under the assumption that this modeline should also work for the
whole HLRxx67W series of Samsung HDTVs (which includes HLR4667W,
HLR5067W, HLR5667W, HLR6167W).
 
I have the HL-R6167W.  I tried forever to to find a good modeline, but never 
did.
I was also using the DVI jack.  Picture was pretty good using this modeline:

Modeline 1280x720 74.500 1280 1344 1472 1664 720 723 728 748 -hsync +vsync

but there was a slight moire effect and I didn't like the overscan, there was 
too
much.  Finally I learned that I didn't need a modeline and Xorg would determine 
the settings on its own using the PC Input. Now, the picture is perfect, with 
only
a slight overscan, maybe 5-15 pixels in each direction.  When watching TV,  a 
little
overscan is _good_, since most broadcasts have a crappy edge because overscan
is expected on regular TV's. Just have the MythFrontend GUI in a window, adjust
to match your screen area, and play video back full screen. Works perfect for 
me.
 
 


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RE: [mythtv-users] X.org modeline for Samsung HLR5067W?

2006-01-07 Thread James C. Dastrup

I have the HLR5067W.  I'm currently using a nvidia FX5200, VGA out.  Its
also not perfect, I do have some black borders.  In a dark theater room
though, they are not noticable.  I've always planned on using the DVI
instead, I already have the cable, but swapping in a Windows drive just to
run powerstrip is more than I feel like doing right now, just to find what
looks good.
 
Have your tried changing the TV's aspect option from 16:9 to WidePC?
That should get rid of the black borders, at least it does on my HLR6167.
That option is only available when using the PCInput, not DVI.  When
using DVI on these TV's, your options are much more limited. The PC
input allows you to resize, move up, down, left, right, etc.
 
Also, I went back and forth between DVI and PC input, and I could not
tell a difference in quality - both were great.

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