Re: [mythtv-users] Gigabyte video card

2005-12-01 Thread Len Reed

Matt Mossholder wrote:
I've run into this one before... the problem with your FX5200 may be 
that the TV expects HDCP to be supported by the video card. My Panasonic 
is that way... I just get black screens on a FX5200 while DVI out of the 
cablebox works fine.


 If so, you need to go pick up a 6000 series or 7000 series NVIDIA 
card, which have HDCP support in the chipset.



--Matt


I don't doubt that this may be the case, but it sure seems pointless to 
me.  I fail to see how accepting non-HDCP input at a monitor or TV 
allows anyone to defeat copy protection.  (Refusing to accept HDCP 
input, conversely, will keep you from viewing sources that supply HDCP 
content.  And refusing to honor HDCP on a device that can record allows 
you to defeat copy protection.)  Insisting that the source be 
HDCP-capables seems like poor or lazy design.  For all I know, though, 
it may be common or universal in the new chipsets used by the TV 
manufacturers.


G,
Len




On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 14:09 -0500, Steve Adeff wrote:


On Monday 28 November 2005 23:53, Len Reed wrote:

Steve Adeff wrote:
 card should work fine. Looks similar to NVIDIA's reference design.
 1080i over DVI to an HDTV is hit or miss though.

Hit or miss due to weird mismatch between card and HDTV, or do you just
mean that some HDTVs don't support 1080i into DVI/HMDI but only into
component video?


weird mismatch. My DCT6200 outputs 1080i to my TV's HDMI port perfectly, but I 
can't for the life of me get my FX5200 with interlaced output support to 
work. Go figure, cheap HDTV...



I'm about to buy a Sony KDS-R60XBR1.  The spec sheet says it supports
1080i on component and on HDMI.  Is there any reason to think that an
nVIDIA 6200 PCI-E card over a DVI-to-HDMI cable won't produce excellent
results?  I'm talking about way too much money for anything short of
excellent.


With a Sony I'd think it would work, but do a search to see if anyone else has 
any experience with it.


Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] Gigabyte video card

2005-12-01 Thread Steve Adeff
On Thursday 01 December 2005 00:02, Matt Mossholder wrote:
 I've run into this one before... the problem with your FX5200 may be
 that the TV expects HDCP to be supported by the video card. My Panasonic
 is that way... I just get black screens on a FX5200 while DVI out of the
 cablebox works fine.

  If so, you need to go pick up a 6000 series or 7000 series NVIDIA
 card, which have HDCP support in the chipset.


 --Matt

 On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 14:09 -0500, Steve Adeff wrote:
  On Monday 28 November 2005 23:53, Len Reed wrote:
   Steve Adeff wrote:
card should work fine. Looks similar to NVIDIA's reference design.
1080i over DVI to an HDTV is hit or miss though.
  
   Hit or miss due to weird mismatch between card and HDTV, or do you just
   mean that some HDTVs don't support 1080i into DVI/HMDI but only into
   component video?
 
  weird mismatch. My DCT6200 outputs 1080i to my TV's HDMI port perfectly,
  but I can't for the life of me get my FX5200 with interlaced output
  support to work. Go figure, cheap HDTV...
 
   I'm about to buy a Sony KDS-R60XBR1.  The spec sheet says it supports
   1080i on component and on HDMI.  Is there any reason to think that an
   nVIDIA 6200 PCI-E card over a DVI-to-HDMI cable won't produce excellent
   results?  I'm talking about way too much money for anything short of
   excellent.
 
  With a Sony I'd think it would work, but do a search to see if anyone
  else has any experience with it.
 
  Steve

Matt,  I did get a picture but it was all screwed up like the TV couldn't lock 
on to the signal. This may be an HDCP thing. I'll have to see if I know 
anyone with an AGP 6000 or 7000 series NVIDIA card that I can check with.

thanks for the info!

-- 
Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] Gigabyte video card

2005-11-30 Thread Matt Mossholder




 I've run into this one before... the problem with your FX5200 may be that the TV expects HDCP to be supported by the video card. My Panasonic is that way... I just get black screens on a FX5200 while DVI out of the cablebox works fine.

 If so, you need to go pick up a 6000 series or 7000 series NVIDIA card, which have HDCP support in the chipset.


 --Matt


On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 14:09 -0500, Steve Adeff wrote:


On Monday 28 November 2005 23:53, Len Reed wrote:
 Steve Adeff wrote:
  card should work fine. Looks similar to NVIDIA's reference design.
  1080i over DVI to an HDTV is hit or miss though.

 Hit or miss due to weird mismatch between card and HDTV, or do you just
 mean that some HDTVs don't support 1080i into DVI/HMDI but only into
 component video?

weird mismatch. My DCT6200 outputs 1080i to my TV's HDMI port perfectly, but I 
can't for the life of me get my FX5200 with interlaced output support to 
work. Go figure, cheap HDTV...

 I'm about to buy a Sony KDS-R60XBR1.  The spec sheet says it supports
 1080i on component and on HDMI.  Is there any reason to think that an
 nVIDIA 6200 PCI-E card over a DVI-to-HDMI cable won't produce excellent
 results?  I'm talking about way too much money for anything short of
 excellent.

With a Sony I'd think it would work, but do a search to see if anyone else has 
any experience with it.

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] Gigabyte video card

2005-11-29 Thread Steve Adeff
On Monday 28 November 2005 23:53, Len Reed wrote:
 Steve Adeff wrote:
  card should work fine. Looks similar to NVIDIA's reference design.
  1080i over DVI to an HDTV is hit or miss though.

 Hit or miss due to weird mismatch between card and HDTV, or do you just
 mean that some HDTVs don't support 1080i into DVI/HMDI but only into
 component video?

weird mismatch. My DCT6200 outputs 1080i to my TV's HDMI port perfectly, but I 
can't for the life of me get my FX5200 with interlaced output support to 
work. Go figure, cheap HDTV...

 I'm about to buy a Sony KDS-R60XBR1.  The spec sheet says it supports
 1080i on component and on HDMI.  Is there any reason to think that an
 nVIDIA 6200 PCI-E card over a DVI-to-HDMI cable won't produce excellent
 results?  I'm talking about way too much money for anything short of
 excellent.

With a Sony I'd think it would work, but do a search to see if anyone else has 
any experience with it.

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] Gigabyte video card

2005-11-28 Thread David Rudder

I'm looking at a similar card.

I have a couple friends who work for Nvidia, one who makes chips (and, 
no, this doesn't get me any discounts on cards:( ).  He says that the 
6200 series does HDTV very well, and are well supported on Linux.  There 
are a couple caveats:


Make sure your mainboard has PCI-E.  Mine has AGP, so I can't use this 
card.  The AGP options are fewer and more expensive.  I'm not sure the 
difference between the two, except you have to use what you have.


This card may not come with component out.  You may have to purchase the 
connectors seperately.  It supports VGA and DVI natively.  My television 
has DVI, but then I'm still paying for the cables.  A more expensive 
card may support the component outputs, which can use cheaper cables, 
and thus close the money gap.


All that being said, I have not yet picked up a video card (using 
on-board cheapo until I resolve some firewire issues) and all of my info 
is gained from telephone conversations and not real experience.  Caveat 
emptor.


-Dave

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Has anyone had experience using the Gigabyte GV-NX62TC256DE video card?  It's 
pretty cheap and has outputs for component video.  I'm wondering if it's worth 
it.


specs: http://www.giga-byte.com/VGA/Products/Products_GV-NX62TC256DE.htm

Thanks!

-Pete


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Re: [mythtv-users] Gigabyte video card

2005-11-28 Thread Steve Adeff
On Monday 28 November 2005 16:32, David Rudder wrote:
 I'm looking at a similar card.

 I have a couple friends who work for Nvidia, one who makes chips (and,
 no, this doesn't get me any discounts on cards:( ).  He says that the
 6200 series does HDTV very well, and are well supported on Linux.  There
 are a couple caveats:

 Make sure your mainboard has PCI-E.  Mine has AGP, so I can't use this
 card.  The AGP options are fewer and more expensive.  I'm not sure the
 difference between the two, except you have to use what you have.

 This card may not come with component out.  You may have to purchase the
 connectors seperately.  It supports VGA and DVI natively.  My television
 has DVI, but then I'm still paying for the cables.  A more expensive
 card may support the component outputs, which can use cheaper cables,
 and thus close the money gap.

 All that being said, I have not yet picked up a video card (using
 on-board cheapo until I resolve some firewire issues) and all of my info
 is gained from telephone conversations and not real experience.  Caveat
 emptor.

 -Dave

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has anyone had experience using the Gigabyte GV-NX62TC256DE video card? 
  It's pretty cheap and has outputs for component video.  I'm wondering if
  it's worth it.
 
 specs: http://www.giga-byte.com/VGA/Products/Products_GV-NX62TC256DE.htm
 
 Thanks!
 
 -Pete

card should work fine. Looks similar to NVIDIA's reference design.
1080i over DVI to an HDTV is hit or miss though. Check RAM electronics 
http://www.ramelectronics.net/ for cheap high quality electronics cables 
(audio, video, DVI, etc)

-- 
Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] Gigabyte video card

2005-11-28 Thread Len Reed

Steve Adeff wrote:


card should work fine. Looks similar to NVIDIA's reference design.
1080i over DVI to an HDTV is hit or miss though.


Hit or miss due to weird mismatch between card and HDTV, or do you just 
mean that some HDTVs don't support 1080i into DVI/HMDI but only into 
component video?


I'm about to buy a Sony KDS-R60XBR1.  The spec sheet says it supports 
1080i on component and on HDMI.  Is there any reason to think that an 
nVIDIA 6200 PCI-E card over a DVI-to-HDMI cable won't produce excellent 
results?  I'm talking about way too much money for anything short of 
excellent.


Thanks,
Len

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