Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/22/06, John P Poet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/22/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I like the first screenshot - think it's a really good idea.. a bit of > > lateral thinking at work ;-) > > > > Justin Attached is a new "all" patch which fixes a bug in the previous one. It also address the arrow positions on the "program info" page, and keeps the text within the box. John --- ProjectGrayhem-wide-orig/ui.xml 2006-01-21 18:27:14.0 -0700 +++ ProjectGrayhem-wide/ui.xml 2006-01-22 21:39:59.0 -0700 @@ -668,8 +668,8 @@ - - #ff + + #cc 15 11 17 @@ -685,7 +685,7 @@ - #EE9A9A + #ff5544 15 11 17 @@ -693,23 +693,23 @@ - #FCFF00 + #33ff33 15 11 17 no - - #33 + + #33 15 11 17 - no - + no + - #808080 + #cc 15 11 17 @@ -717,7 +717,7 @@ - #cc + #33 15 11 17 @@ -825,15 +825,15 @@ 0,20,1240,390 -40,51,1260,380 +40,48,1260,340 - + - + 10 @@ -1504,7 +1504,7 @@ - + + + #cc + 15 + 20 + 13 + + + + #8cdeff + 15 + 20 + 13 + + + + #00 + 15 + 20 + 13 + + + + #aa + 15 + 20 + 13 + + + + #FF + 15 + 13 + 20 + no + + + + #FFFC00 + 15 + 13 + 20 + no + + + + #AA + 15 + 20 + 13 + + + + #8eeeff + 16 + 22 + 14 + no + + + + #FF + #00 + 24 + 26 + 14 + no + + + + #FF + 17 + 20 + 13 + no + + + + #ff + 17 + 20 + 10 + no + + + + #CC + 17 + 20 + 10 + no + + + + #FF + 17 + 20 + 12 + no + @@ -1674,15 +1774,15 @@ 0 - 40,400,1240,240 + 40,460,1240,270 -15,12,779,45 +15,0,779,40 title -20,50,1260,90 -25,50,1260,90 +20,45,1260,120 +20,45,1260,120 info yes @@ -1690,7 +1790,7 @@ 0 - 20,460,1280,270 + 20,460,1210,260 20,0,900,40 20,0,580,40 @@ -1698,24 +1798,24 @@ -20,40,1260,40 +20,40,1120,40 subtitle yes -20,74,800,30 +20,80,370,30 greyfont -170,110,540,30 +655,80,395,30 greyfont -20,150,1000,100 -20,140,1000,200 +220,110,950,140 +20,110,1190,140 info yes %LONGREPEAT%%STARS%%DESCRIPTION% @@ -1723,39 +1823,39 @@ type/commflagged.png -84,106 +1082,75 type/autoexpire.png -52,106 +1146,75 type/bookmark.png -116,106 +1114,75 type/cutlist.png -148,106 +1050,75 - type/processing.png -20,106 +1178,75 + 1 - 20,460,1000,270 + 20,460,1180,270 -20,0,640,40 +20,0,900,40 20,5,640,40 title -20,47,600,40 +20,47,1120,40 subtitle yes @@ -1766,12 +1866,12 @@ -400,74,440,30 +425,74,725,30 greyfont -20,110,980,70 -20,110,1255,70 +20,110,1160,70 +20,110,1160,70 info yes %LONGREPEAT%%STARS%%DESCRIPTION% @@ -1780,7 +1880,7 @@ - 1020,470,220,165 + 40,575,160,124 @@ -2395,22 +2495,22 @@ - 40,0,1240,720 + 40,0,1190,720 -20,30,1200,40 +20,30,1190,40 heading Program Details: - 20,80,1200,600 - 40,100,1200,462 + 20,70,1170,610 + 40,85,1130,480 body Program Details - - - - + + + + details/pd-lines.png details/pd-lines.png ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/22/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I like the first screenshot - think it's a really good idea.. a bit of > lateral thinking at work ;-) > > Justin Here is a patch which incorporates all the stuff I have been playing with. Feel free to undo anything you don't like. John --- ProjectGrayhem-wide-orig/ui.xml 2006-01-21 18:27:14.0 -0700 +++ ProjectGrayhem-wide/ui.xml 2006-01-22 17:49:20.0 -0700 @@ -1504,7 +1504,7 @@ - + + + #cc + 15 + 20 + 13 + + + + #8cdeff + 15 + 20 + 13 + + + + #00 + 15 + 20 + 13 + + + + #aa + 15 + 20 + 13 + + + + #FF + 15 + 13 + 20 + no + + + + #FFFC00 + 15 + 13 + 20 + no + + + + #AA + 15 + 20 + 13 + + + + #8eeeff + 16 + 22 + 14 + no + + + + #FF + #00 + 24 + 26 + 14 + no + + + + #FF + 17 + 20 + 13 + no + + + + #ff + 17 + 20 + 10 + no + + + + #CC + 17 + 20 + 10 + no + + + + #FF + 17 + 20 + 12 + no + @@ -1674,15 +1774,15 @@ 0 - 40,400,1240,240 + 40,460,1240,270 -15,12,779,45 +15,0,779,40 title -20,50,1260,90 -25,50,1260,90 +20,45,1260,120 +20,45,1260,120 info yes @@ -1690,7 +1790,7 @@ 0 - 20,460,1280,270 + 20,460,1180,260 20,0,900,40 20,0,580,40 @@ -1698,24 +1798,24 @@ -20,40,1260,40 +20,40,1120,40 subtitle yes -20,74,800,30 +20,80,370,30 greyfont -170,110,540,30 +655,80,395,30 greyfont -20,150,1000,100 -20,140,1000,200 +220,110,950,140 +20,110,1150,140 info yes %LONGREPEAT%%STARS%%DESCRIPTION% @@ -1723,39 +1823,40 @@ type/commflagged.png -84,106 +1082,75 type/autoexpire.png -52,106 +1146,75 type/bookmark.png -116,106 +1114,75 type/cutlist.png -148,106 +1050,75 type/processing.png -20,106 +1178,75 + 1 - 20,460,1000,270 + 20,460,1180,270 -20,0,640,40 +20,0,900,40 20,5,640,40 title -20,47,600,40 +20,47,1120,40 subtitle yes @@ -1766,12 +1867,12 @@ -400,74,440,30 +425,74,725,30 greyfont -20,110,980,70 -20,110,1255,70 +20,110,1160,70 +20,110,1160,70 info yes %LONGREPEAT%%STARS%%DESCRIPTION% @@ -1780,7 +1881,7 @@ - 1020,470,220,165 + 40,575,160,124 ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
I think a lot of people would be horrified at the prospect of losing the video preview. I like the first screenshot - think it's a really good idea.. a bit of lateral thinking at work ;-) Justin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/22/06, John P Poet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/22/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 22/01/06, John P Poet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Ah, okay. In the USA we have channel *names* which are that long, but > > > our channel *call signs* are not. > > > > > > John > > > > Well in the UK we don't really have 'callsigns', so can we reach a > > compromise somehow? > > > > Could you live with 2 lines of programme description? with the > > grabber I use, even 3 lines is nowhere near enough to see the full > > text, so I figured two would make no difference. > > No compromise necessary. We can leave as you designed it. I just > thought it "looked" better with the Channel/Flags/Date on one line. > > John > How is this for a wacky option: http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot15-wacky.jpg With this arrangement, you can get pretty long descriptions, but still have over 40 characters for the channel name: http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot16-wacky2.jpg Personally, I leave "Generate thumbnail preview images of recordings" turned off. I don't like waiting the 2 seconds it takes to generate the thumbnail, and I like the extra room on the screen for the description: http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot17-wacky3.jpg What do you think? John ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/22/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 22/01/06, John P Poet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ah, okay. In the USA we have channel *names* which are that long, but > > our channel *call signs* are not. > > > > John > > Well in the UK we don't really have 'callsigns', so can we reach a > compromise somehow? > > Could you live with 2 lines of programme description? with the > grabber I use, even 3 lines is nowhere near enough to see the full > text, so I figured two would make no difference. No compromise necessary. We can leave as you designed it. I just thought it "looked" better with the Channel/Flags/Date on one line. John ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 22/01/06, John P Poet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, okay. In the USA we have channel *names* which are that long, but > our channel *call signs* are not. > > John Well in the UK we don't really have 'callsigns', so can we reach a compromise somehow? Could you live with 2 lines of programme description? with the grabber I use, even 3 lines is nowhere near enough to see the full text, so I figured two would make no difference. Justin. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/22/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A! > > Well, there's a good reason the channel name space is so wide in the > released version. > > I guess in the USA you don't get channel names like > 'Paramount Comedy Plus 1', or 'Discovery Home and Leisure'... get my drift? > ;-) Ah, okay. In the USA we have channel *names* which are that long, but our channel *call signs* are not. John ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 22/01/06, John P Poet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/22/06, John P Poet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 1/21/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for your comments, but after this update (to ver 1.3) I'm going > > > to try to have a rest from it. There'll be no more changes for a wee > > > while. > > The attached patch does not fix anything. It rearranges some of the > info on the "Watch Recordings" screen a a bit. > > From this: > http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot12-rearrange-old.jpg > To this: > http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot13-rearrange-new.jpg > > I am just throwing this out there to see what Justin (and everyone else) > thinks. > > John A! Well, there's a good reason the channel name space is so wide in the released version. I guess in the USA you don't get channel names like 'Paramount Comedy Plus 1', or 'Discovery Home and Leisure'... get my drift? ;-) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
Thanks John. I'll roll the patch into the main bundle as soon as I get the chance.. I appreciate the input. Stuff like this would be harder to miss if we had a theme designer app testing even the tiniest things can take ages and it's very easy to overlook stuff without having a humongous check-list. Excuses, excuses, I know... ;-) Cheers, Justin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/22/06, John P Poet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/21/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thanks for your comments, but after this update (to ver 1.3) I'm going > > to try to have a rest from it. There'll be no more changes for a wee > > while. The attached patch does not fix anything. It rearranges some of the info on the "Watch Recordings" screen a a bit. >From this: http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot12-rearrange-old.jpg To this: http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot13-rearrange-new.jpg I am just throwing this out there to see what Justin (and everyone else) thinks. John --- ProjectGrayhem-wide/ui.xml 2006-01-22 15:38:09.0 -0700 +++ ProjectGrayhem-wide-new/ui.xml 2006-01-22 15:33:59.0 -0700 @@ -1690,7 +1690,7 @@ 0 - 20,460,1180,270 + 20,460,1180,260 20,0,900,40 20,0,580,40 @@ -1704,18 +1704,18 @@ -20,74,370,30 +20,80,370,30 greyfont -225,110,525,30 +437,80,525,30 greyfont -20,140,1150,100 -20,140,1150,100 +20,110,950,140 +20,110,1150,140 info yes %LONGREPEAT%%STARS%%DESCRIPTION% @@ -1723,24 +1723,24 @@ type/commflagged.png -84,106 +309,75 type/autoexpire.png -52,106 +277,75 type/bookmark.png -116,106 +341,75 type/cutlist.png -148,106 +373,75 type/processing.png -20,106 +245,75 ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/21/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for your comments, but after this update (to ver 1.3) I'm going > to try to have a rest from it. There'll be no more changes for a wee > while. I can understand wanting a rest. One advantage of you "resting", is that it opens the door for some of the rest of us to tweak it ;-) Attached it a patch with fixes group_info section so it will not overlap with the selector section, as seen here: http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot2-watch-left.jpg It also moves the date over a bit, so it does not overlap the scissors. I also moved some of the text areas around just a bit, to take more advantage of the screen real estate -- but not violate the 5% rule. John --- ProjectGrayhem-wide-orig/ui.xml 2006-01-21 18:27:14.0 -0700 +++ ProjectGrayhem-wide/ui.xml 2006-01-22 14:58:52.0 -0700 @@ -1674,15 +1674,15 @@ 0 - 40,400,1240,240 + 40,460,1240,270 -15,12,779,45 +15,0,779,40 title -20,50,1260,90 -25,50,1260,90 +20,45,1260,120 +20,45,1260,120 info yes @@ -1690,7 +1690,7 @@ 0 - 20,460,1280,270 + 20,460,1180,270 20,0,900,40 20,0,580,40 @@ -1698,24 +1698,24 @@ -20,40,1260,40 +20,40,1120,40 subtitle yes -20,74,800,30 +20,74,370,30 greyfont -170,110,540,30 +225,110,525,30 greyfont -20,150,1000,100 -20,140,1000,200 +20,140,1150,100 +20,140,1150,100 info yes %LONGREPEAT%%STARS%%DESCRIPTION% @@ -1746,16 +1746,17 @@ + 1 - 20,460,1000,270 + 20,460,1180,270 -20,0,640,40 +20,0,900,40 20,5,640,40 title -20,47,600,40 +20,47,1120,40 subtitle yes @@ -1766,12 +1767,12 @@ -400,74,440,30 +425,74,725,30 greyfont -20,110,980,70 -20,110,1255,70 +20,110,1160,70 +20,110,1160,70 info yes %LONGREPEAT%%STARS%%DESCRIPTION% ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/21/06, John P Poet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/21/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you want to know what might be coming next, try > > www.juski.co.uk/mythfrontend2.png, > > http://www.juski.co.uk/mythfrontend3.png, > > http://www.juski.co.uk/mythfrontend4.png > > and http://www.juski.co.uk/pg.png > > I like. > > Thanks, > > John > ___ Excellent! I appreciate the work you are putting into it, and understand the bit of a break ;) Thanks for a great theme! Chad ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/21/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you want to know what might be coming next, try > www.juski.co.uk/mythfrontend2.png, > http://www.juski.co.uk/mythfrontend3.png, > http://www.juski.co.uk/mythfrontend4.png > and http://www.juski.co.uk/pg.png I like. Thanks, John ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 22/01/06, John P Poet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Justin, > > The very first (top) show listed on the "Watch Recordings" has a grey > background instead of black. All the other shows listed have a black > background. Every time I go into that screen, I catch myself > wondering what is wrong with that first show? > > How hard would it be to change the background where all the shows have > a black background -- for consistency? Alternately, It would help if > the grey slowly faded out as it reached the middle of the screen, > instead of abruptly going to black right after the first show listing. > What do you think? > > Also, I know you don't want to hear "than it's too monochromatic", but > I like the font colors you picked for the "Watch Videos" screens > better than just the white used for the "Watch Recordings" screens. > In general the black/grey backgrounds are fine, but using color in the > fonts would add just a bit of spice. > > Thanks, > > John Thanks for your comments, but after this update (to ver 1.3) I'm going to try to have a rest from it. There'll be no more changes for a wee while. IMPORTANT: I've moved the site to www.mythtvtalk.com/ProjectGrayhem/ What else has changed? Let's see Tweaked everything to allow 5% border for overscan Changed the buttons Reworked lots of graphics to allow the new border to look okay Removed some duplicated graphics (same file, different name) Corrected some spacing issues Would've been nicer to get everything right first time, but hey If you want to know what might be coming next, try www.juski.co.uk/mythfrontend2.png, http://www.juski.co.uk/mythfrontend3.png, http://www.juski.co.uk/mythfrontend4.png and http://www.juski.co.uk/pg.png Regards, Justin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
Justin, The very first (top) show listed on the "Watch Recordings" has a grey background instead of black. All the other shows listed have a black background. Every time I go into that screen, I catch myself wondering what is wrong with that first show? How hard would it be to change the background where all the shows have a black background -- for consistency? Alternately, It would help if the grey slowly faded out as it reached the middle of the screen, instead of abruptly going to black right after the first show listing. What do you think? Also, I know you don't want to hear "than it's too monochromatic", but I like the font colors you picked for the "Watch Videos" screens better than just the white used for the "Watch Recordings" screens. In general the black/grey backgrounds are fine, but using color in the fonts would add just a bit of spice. Thanks, John ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 21/01/06, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This did fix it! However, now the buttons are 'underlayed'. The Font > is imposed over the top, on the right hand half of the button. But I > do like the idea of color options :) > > Thanks! > > Chad Underlay underlay.. (etc).. I'll try nudging the buttons a little further left then. Justin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/19/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 19/01/06, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Just flipping through my settings and saw this: > > > > http://www.curvins.com/images/Text-Cutoff.png > > > > Is this a 'my problem' with resolution/Font DPI, or something else? > > > > (This is an VNC window just so I could get the screenshot and post it > > easily, but it looks the same on the actual TV where this exists). > > > > I'm running a modeline for 1280x720, at 100DPI (forced in startx). > > > > Thanks! > > > > Chad > > One of the causes for this is the button graphics not being wide > enough in some cases. Help yourself to the new buttons here: > http://www.juski.co.uk/newbuttons/ > > Want a different coloured button? just rename button_on_colour.png to > button_on.png in the root dir of the theme. > > Justin. > ___ This did fix it! However, now the buttons are 'underlayed'. The Font is imposed over the top, on the right hand half of the button. But I do like the idea of color options :) Thanks! Chad ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 20/01/06, James Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think 5% should be enough. I think that is what I used on my theme I > played with along time ago. The text on most screens is just at the > edge, it is all visible (I think, going by memory), but the box borders > are off the screen. > The look of the boxes is going to change.. working on that now I've got the 5% unused area (wasn't so hard after all). Justin. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
Justin Hornsby wrote: > I fully understand the issues brought about by the miracle of overscan > - infact I think I even remember pointing it out to somebody a long > time ago. > Probably to me ;) > I've made a classic mistake in not practising what I preach, but I aim > to put this right eventually. In the interim, I hope people can make > do with adjusting their GUI sizes. > I tried playing with my gui sizes last night. I got it to fit better, but it is not pleasing to the eye. It leaves a blue-ish haze around the background and you can see distortion at the corners, where with overscan, all that is hidden off the screen. > I agree that a 10% allowance is probably overkill. I think it would > waste a lot of screen area on non-overscanned displays in any case. > > So - while I'm doing all the other rework on the job I'll pay > attention to overscan.. setting my borders at 5% > I think 5% should be enough. I think that is what I used on my theme I played with along time ago. The text on most screens is just at the edge, it is all visible (I think, going by memory), but the box borders are off the screen. > Justin. > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
Here are a couple more screenshots for you: http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot10-upcomming.jpg http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot11-list.jpg These are taken with the font set to "default". John ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/19/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Screenshots! > > Excellent. > > A lot of those pictures depict things on my 'to-do' list. There are > obviously some screens I've not got round to widening yet. Cool. > > > > On the Watch/Delete screens, the fonts at the top seem fine, but the > > show description font seems too small. Also, the "box" for the show > > description does not allow the description to use all of the screen > > real estate, and actually cuts off some letters. > > > > I think that the issues you're seeing where things are too small are > caused by me not paying attention to the 'small' font preference > during testing. True. Of course changing the font preference to 'default' aggravates the problem with the date format "MM/DD DoW" fitting. > > If the "cursor" is in the left column of the "Watch Recordings" > > screen, the graphics seem to be cutoff. This screen shot also shows > > that there is still not quite enough room if the Short Date is set to > > "MM/DD DoW" format: > > > > I don't know what's gone wrong there. What GUI size are you using? I > can provide a screenshot where it all fits perfectly. As for the date > still being cut off... I have to make a decision... cut off long > program names or fit all the date info. Both are displayed when a > recording is highlighted, so I think I'll make the date fit instead. > Bear in mind that long show names will be truncated because of this. If you are talking about the "Graphics", I think it has to do with the "Show group summary" setting. I have that turned on. It is under the "Playback" menu. For the date not fitting, I personally would rather have the date fit, and have to actually move the cursor to the show to see the whole title. Note that the date also does not fit in the bottom (description) area of the screen, if the "default" font size is used. The scissors icon also overlaps the date, a bit. > > > > Finally, AVIA claims that I have less than 5% overscan. Even with > > that little, the Watch Recording screen barely fits -- I can only see > > half of the up/down arrows. > > This will require you to adjust the GUI size in 'appearance' setup. > Either that or I'll need to rework all the theme to take into account > 5% overscan, which in turn will waste space on screens that don't > overscan. Hmmm. How many people use Myth on a monitor as apposed to a TV? I personally think you should assume that TV viewing is the "norm", and the theme should allow for a 5% overscan. > In fact, thanks to all the 'testers' out there who've taken the time > to point things out to me.. it's really helping. Keep it up :-) It is quickly turning into a very nice, polished theme. Nice work. John ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 19/01/06, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just flipping through my settings and saw this: > > http://www.curvins.com/images/Text-Cutoff.png > > Is this a 'my problem' with resolution/Font DPI, or something else? > > (This is an VNC window just so I could get the screenshot and post it > easily, but it looks the same on the actual TV where this exists). > > I'm running a modeline for 1280x720, at 100DPI (forced in startx). > > Thanks! > > Chad One of the causes for this is the button graphics not being wide enough in some cases. Help yourself to the new buttons here: http://www.juski.co.uk/newbuttons/ Want a different coloured button? just rename button_on_colour.png to button_on.png in the root dir of the theme. Justin. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
I fully understand the issues brought about by the miracle of overscan - infact I think I even remember pointing it out to somebody a long time ago. I've made a classic mistake in not practising what I preach, but I aim to put this right eventually. In the interim, I hope people can make do with adjusting their GUI sizes. I agree that a 10% allowance is probably overkill. I think it would waste a lot of screen area on non-overscanned displays in any case. So - while I'm doing all the other rework on the job I'll pay attention to overscan.. setting my borders at 5% Justin. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
Justin Hornsby wrote: > I was dreading this. We take it for granted that a TV picture fills the screen, The illusion is that the picture size is identical to the screen size but this is impossible. The raster size is larger than the screen and the rough edges are cutoff by the cowl. A TV tube has slightly curved edges and rounded corners. This is the traditional shape of a TV screen: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/75/Television.png Imagine ProjectGrayhem displayed on this TV, especially the icons in the upper right corner. Modern tubes and cowls do a better job of giving the illusion that the picture is rectangular but the issue still exists. Another factor is that the picture can't be perfectly centered so there needs to be enough overscan to cover the middle of all edges and there may be more overscan on one side than the other or top or bottom. > On the minus side, people who have displays which don't overscan will All several billion TVs that have ever been made since the '40s are supposed to overscan unless they are misadjusted or broken. TV production, broadcasters and devices designed for TV display have all agreed to follow the SMPTE standards for several decades so that picture elements and text will fit for all TVs. If you look at TV graphics, VCR OSDs, the TV's own OSD, DVD menus, video game consoles, commercial DVRs, they all follow this standard. A common trick is to have graphic elements that flow off the screen but if you look at the text, it all falls within the smae margins from the edge. > I thought that's why myth had the facility to scale the GUI. It's ironic that myth is a TV application that wasn't designed to be displayed on a TV =). We should have started by insisting that the SMPTE margins were used but this hasn't been the case. The setup wizard pages are particularly bad (but this doesn't mean that themes and OSD themes have to be just as bad too). Myth GUI size is actually a hack in response to the self imposed problem. The GUI size can be tweaked and centered to try to match the edges of the GUI to the edges of an individual screen so that GUI elements near the edge won't be cutoff. However, if the GUI has little or no margin space, it is difficult to impossible to match it perfectly and there is nothing that can be done for elements in the corners if the screen has rounded corners. None of this would be necessary if we adhered to the action safe and title safe areas. For OSDs, there is no GUI size adjustment (nor should there be) and we need to be more strict about the margins. These are much easier to fix than the GUI pages. The problem comes from the fact that if a theme designer doesn't think about a TV screen, they tend to think of the rectangular window on their desktop as the space they have to work with. They should actually see it as blacked out as least 2%-3% on all sides with curved corners. [A related problem is that fonts chosen from two feet in front of a monitor may not be readable on a 19" screen from ten feet away.] Any action, movement, or object that is supposed to be seen should be 5% in from the edge and any text that needs to be read should be 10% in. However, 10% is probably overkill these day. Tickers like CNN usually fall in the space between 5 and 10 percent. So, for an 800x600 GUI design, graphics that don't flow off the edge should fall inside 40-760 and 30-570. Something right at 40,30 or 760,570 may still be cutoff on some screens but that's the TV's problem. You've done your part... that's why there is a standard =). Text should be further in if possible but really, having a margin of at least 30 or 40 solves most of the problem. -- bjm ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/19/06, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 19 January 2006 03:49, Justin Hornsby wrote: > > Right... > > > > All you folks using this theme, if you could go into ui.xml and edit > > from line 1657 to read like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That will fix the dates being cropped. The next (a week or so away) > > release will have this fix in place. > > > > Thanks, > > Justin. > > That did it, thanks! > > -- > Steve > ___ Just flipping through my settings and saw this: http://www.curvins.com/images/Text-Cutoff.png Is this a 'my problem' with resolution/Font DPI, or something else? (This is an VNC window just so I could get the screenshot and post it easily, but it looks the same on the actual TV where this exists). I'm running a modeline for 1280x720, at 100DPI (forced in startx). Thanks! Chad ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On Thursday 19 January 2006 03:49, Justin Hornsby wrote: > Right... > > All you folks using this theme, if you could go into ui.xml and edit > from line 1657 to read like this: > > > > > > > That will fix the dates being cropped. The next (a week or so away) > release will have this fix in place. > > Thanks, > Justin. That did it, thanks! -- Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On Thursday 19 January 2006 08:05, Justin Hornsby wrote: > I was dreading this. > > On the minus side, people who have displays which don't overscan will > probably complain that space is being wasted. > > I thought that's why myth had the facility to scale the GUI. > > If it needs re-spun it needs respun, but it'll have to take precedence > over all the other development I'm doing. > > Arrgghhh!!! SVN lets you adjust the GUI size, I don't know if 18.1 does though. My thought is design the theme for no overscan and let people adjust the gui in the settings. ? -- Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
I was dreading this. On the minus side, people who have displays which don't overscan will probably complain that space is being wasted. I thought that's why myth had the facility to scale the GUI. If it needs re-spun it needs respun, but it'll have to take precedence over all the other development I'm doing. Arrgghhh!!! ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
> > >>Finally, AVIA claims that I have less than 5% overscan. Even with >>that little, the Watch Recording screen barely fits -- I can only see >>half of the up/down arrows. > > > This will require you to adjust the GUI size in 'appearance' setup. > Either that or I'll need to rework all the theme to take into account > 5% overscan, which in turn will waste space on screens that don't > overscan. > I have the same problem. When I designed my theme I used the reference pointed out to me by the mythtv users: http://scanline.ca/overscan/ "Safe action and safe title areas To help broadcasters know when something will be visible on a television, SMPTE defined specific sizes of the action frame called the safe action area and the safe title area. My reference is SMPTE recommended practice RP 27.3-1989 on Specifications for Safe Action and Safe Title Areas Test Pattern for Television Systems. The safe action area is defined as the area in which "all significant action must take place", and the safe title area is where "all the important information must be confined to ensure visibility on the majority of home television receivers." The safe action area occupies the center 90% of the screen, giving a 5% border all around. The safe title area occupies the center 80% of the screen, giving a 10% border." You should have a 5% border where there is nothing in that area to allow for different tv overscans. The menus look great, but any screen with boxes on them, as in the Watch Recordings screen, the left and right edges of the boxes are just off the screen so the text is right at the edge. > >>Thanks for all the hard work. What little I have done with themes has >>taught me that they are very time consuming. >> ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
Just time for a little teaser.. the next release will look a bit like this: http://www.juski.co.uk/mythfrontend.png New buttons - I'll provide red, green and blue (shown) to suit your preference. All you'll need to do is rename a couple of files in the root dir of the theme. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/19/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right... > > All you folks using this theme, if you could go into ui.xml and edit > from line 1657 to read like this: > > > > > > > That will fix the dates being cropped. The next (a week or so away) > release will have this fix in place. > > Thanks, > Justin. > ___ Done. Thanks! ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
Right... All you folks using this theme, if you could go into ui.xml and edit from line 1657 to read like this: That will fix the dates being cropped. The next (a week or so away) release will have this fix in place. Thanks, Justin. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
Screenshots! Excellent. A lot of those pictures depict things on my 'to-do' list. There are obviously some screens I've not got round to widening yet. Another thing I noticed was that the font used in the menus was actually Tahoma and the font used in the UI was Verdana (or the other way around). This will be straight in the next release because I'll have switched it to the 'Vera' font (no easily discernable difference btw). As for the other issues like bits falling off the screen, or only half the data being shown - I'm a little lost as to what could be causing them. Yes, I realise there are niggles, but if I'd seen major stuff like the 'watch recordings' arrows being cut off I would've put them right before rolling this thing out. I'll now tackle each part of your critique... > > http://www.linux.com/howtos/Font-HOWTO/fonts.shtml > > On the Watch/Delete screens, the fonts at the top seem fine, but the > show description font seems too small. Also, the "box" for the show > description does not allow the description to use all of the screen > real estate, and actually cuts off some letters. > I think that the issues you're seeing where things are too small are caused by me not paying attention to the 'small' font preference during testing. > > On the "Upcomming" screen, the font for the show description seems > fine (unlike on the Watch Recordings screen), but the show titles at > the top seem a little too small: > I think this is related to the above issue.. not testing the 'small' font preference. > > On the Watch Video screen, the upper left box which holds the names of > the previous level folders seems to cutoff part of the names. This is > common to all themes, so there may not be anything you can do about > it: > There's not much can be done about this without reworking the UI code, but I've never thought of it as a show-stopping issue. > > Minor nit: On the show details page, the box could be wider to make > better use of screen real estate. Also, you may note that the top > line of text occasionally spills outside the box: > Yep: I was already planning to do something about this. > If the "cursor" is in the left column of the "Watch Recordings" > screen, the graphics seem to be cutoff. This screen shot also shows > that there is still not quite enough room if the Short Date is set to > "MM/DD DoW" format: > I don't know what's gone wrong there. What GUI size are you using? I can provide a screenshot where it all fits perfectly. As for the date still being cut off... I have to make a decision... cut off long program names or fit all the date info. Both are displayed when a recording is highlighted, so I think I'll make the date fit instead. Bear in mind that long show names will be truncated because of this. > > The system information box could be wider to take advantage of screen > real estate. It also does not seem to allow information to actually > fill it: > Yep - another thing on my 'to-do' list already. > > It also cuts off some of the information that normally shows at the > top. For example, this is what minimalist-wide looks like: > I'll cover that when I widen it. > > Finally, AVIA claims that I have less than 5% overscan. Even with > that little, the Watch Recording screen barely fits -- I can only see > half of the up/down arrows. This will require you to adjust the GUI size in 'appearance' setup. Either that or I'll need to rework all the theme to take into account 5% overscan, which in turn will waste space on screens that don't overscan. > Thanks for all the hard work. What little I have done with themes has > taught me that they are very time consuming. > > John I appreciate that. Thanks for your _excellent_ report, John. By the way.. this d/m DOW issue will definitely be nixed in the next release, rest assured. In fact, thanks to all the 'testers' out there who've taken the time to point things out to me.. it's really helping. Keep it up :-) Regards, Justin. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
> On 1/18/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So where you need to get it from is.. > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/pg-wide/ui.xml > Hi Justin. Your theme has come a long way and is looking really good! Some of the fonts seem a little off. I did make sure I had Verdana installed. I grabbed a font package from here: http://www.linux.com/howtos/Font-HOWTO/fonts.shtml On the Watch/Delete screens, the fonts at the top seem fine, but the show description font seems too small. Also, the "box" for the show description does not allow the description to use all of the screen real estate, and actually cuts off some letters. Here is a screen shot which illustrates this: http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot7-delete.jpg On the "Upcomming" screen, the font for the show description seems fine (unlike on the Watch Recordings screen), but the show titles at the top seem a little too small: http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot6-upcomming.jpg On the Watch Video screen, the upper left box which holds the names of the previous level folders seems to cutoff part of the names. This is common to all themes, so there may not be anything you can do about it: http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot5-watch-video.jpg Minor nit: On the show details page, the box could be wider to make better use of screen real estate. Also, you may note that the top line of text occasionally spills outside the box: http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot4-watch-details.jpg If the "cursor" is in the left column of the "Watch Recordings" screen, the graphics seem to be cutoff. This screen shot also shows that there is still not quite enough room if the Short Date is set to "MM/DD DoW" format: http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot2-watch-left.jpg The system information box could be wider to take advantage of screen real estate. It also does not seem to allow information to actually fill it: http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot1-information.jpg It also cuts off some of the information that normally shows at the top. For example, this is what minimalist-wide looks like: http://snoopy.isa-geek.net:8044/shot1a-minimalist-information.jpg Finally, AVIA claims that I have less than 5% overscan. Even with that little, the Watch Recording screen barely fits -- I can only see half of the up/down arrows. Thanks for all the hard work. What little I have done with themes has taught me that they are very time consuming. John ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 21:07, Justin Hornsby wrote: > On 19/01/06, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > still not showing the dates correctly for me. > > > > my bad though, my previous numbers for resolution were a little off... > > my GUI is set to run at 1200x690... > > It may be time to go into the service menu on my tv and fix the > > overscan... My right side is way off, and I've been meaning to fix it > > anyway... > > > > -- > > Steve > > Steve.. I just tested it at 1200x696 - everything fits just fine here. > > Justin. Justin, do you have your "Short Date format" set to "Wed 1/18" and your "Time format" set to "9:34 PM"? -- Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 19/01/06, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > still not showing the dates correctly for me. > > my bad though, my previous numbers for resolution were a little off... > my GUI is set to run at 1200x690... > It may be time to go into the service menu on my tv and fix the overscan... My > right side is way off, and I've been meaning to fix it anyway... > > -- > Steve Steve.. I just tested it at 1200x696 - everything fits just fine here. Justin. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 19:51, Chad wrote: > On 1/18/06, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 1/18/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > RIGHT! > > > > > > I found out what the issue is... it's my bloody domain forwarding > > > service... > > > > > > doing a wget http://www.juski.co.uk/pg-wide/ui.xml resulted in a file > > > of some 628bytes.. WRONG! > > > > > > So where you need to get it from is.. > > > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/pg-wide/ui.xml > > > > > > My apologies for this monumental screwup :-) Just goes to show.. you > > > pay peanuts, you get monkeys. I won't be using that domain provider > > > again. > > > > > > Justin. > > > ___ > > > > No worries, glad you found it so quickly :) > > > > I'll try the new one right now. > > > > Thanks, > > Chad > > Looks good! I adjusted my DPI to 100 and it looks like it's working great. > > Thanks for the work! > > Chad still not showing the dates correctly for me. my bad though, my previous numbers for resolution were a little off... my GUI is set to run at 1200x690... It may be time to go into the service menu on my tv and fix the overscan... My right side is way off, and I've been meaning to fix it anyway... -- Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/18/06, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/18/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RIGHT! > > > > I found out what the issue is... it's my bloody domain forwarding service... > > > > doing a wget http://www.juski.co.uk/pg-wide/ui.xml resulted in a file > > of some 628bytes.. WRONG! > > > > So where you need to get it from is.. > > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/pg-wide/ui.xml > > > > My apologies for this monumental screwup :-) Just goes to show.. you > > pay peanuts, you get monkeys. I won't be using that domain provider > > again. > > > > Justin. > > ___ > > No worries, glad you found it so quickly :) > > I'll try the new one right now. > > Thanks, > Chad > Looks good! I adjusted my DPI to 100 and it looks like it's working great. Thanks for the work! Chad ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/18/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > RIGHT! > > I found out what the issue is... it's my bloody domain forwarding service... > > doing a wget http://www.juski.co.uk/pg-wide/ui.xml resulted in a file > of some 628bytes.. WRONG! > > So where you need to get it from is.. > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/pg-wide/ui.xml > > My apologies for this monumental screwup :-) Just goes to show.. you > pay peanuts, you get monkeys. I won't be using that domain provider > again. > > Justin. > ___ No worries, glad you found it so quickly :) I'll try the new one right now. Thanks, Chad ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
RIGHT! I found out what the issue is... it's my bloody domain forwarding service... doing a wget http://www.juski.co.uk/pg-wide/ui.xml resulted in a file of some 628bytes.. WRONG! So where you need to get it from is.. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/pg-wide/ui.xml My apologies for this monumental screwup :-) Just goes to show.. you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. I won't be using that domain provider again. Justin. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 18/01/06, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So after having the issue, I looked at (vimdiff'd) the 2 files and > they are far different. The default ui.xml is a very big file, the > new one is quite small; comparing number of lines it's like 20:1 > ratio. > > My guess is either that the ui.xml above is supposed to replace a > portion of the ui.xml in the default file, or it's supposed to be a > different file and was named ui.xml? > > Just stabbing in the dark, I don't know themes at all. > > Chad > ___ Damn... the filesize of ui.xml (working) on my system is 86548 bytes.. and on my webspace it's 86548 bytes.. so I don't know what's going on here. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 18/01/06, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 18 January 2006 17:37, Chad wrote: > > On 1/18/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 18/01/06, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > After making that change I get the following error: > > > > > > > > "Myth could not locate the selector object..." > > > > > > > > My Screen Res and Font Size, :D I haven't quite figured it out yet to > > > > be honest. I'm trying Modelines that supposedly give me a 1280x720, > > > > but my screen size appearance never changes and my Xorg.0.log has: > > > > Virtual screen size determined to be 1024 x 768 > > > > > > > > Which I assume means that is my resolution. I'm using an incorrect > > > > DPI that I have to force in my startx script, and I can't quite pin > > > > point where my problem exists. > > > > > > > > None of this applies to your Theme, but figure I should point it all > > > > out so others don't see my post and do something stupid like I have > > > > thinking it's correct. > > > > > > > > Chad > > > > ___ > > > > > > Could not locate selector object? On which screen? I'm not seeing > > > any such errors here. > > > > > > Justin > > > ___ > > > > On trying to access the Watch Recordings screen. > > > > Chad > > Indeed, I got the same error. > > I'm running 1280x720 with ~15pixels removed from each direction to fix for > overscan. 100DPI > > -- > Steve Well, here's a diff of the file I've just updated and the file I put in the tar.bz2 file I posted this morning: diff -up ui.xml /media/ProjectGrayhem-wide/ui.xml --- ui.xml 2006-01-18 21:30:19.0 + +++ /media/ProjectGrayhem-wide/ui.xml 2006-01-18 06:01:40.0 + @@ -1654,8 +1654,8 @@ 10 - - + + 9 @@ -1685,8 +1685,8 @@ title -20,50,1260,90 -25,50,1260,90 +20,50,1260,120 +25,50,600,120 info yes @@ -1696,7 +1696,7 @@ 0 0,460,1280,270 -20,0,900,40 +20,0,580,40 20,0,580,40 title @@ -1713,13 +1713,13 @@ -170,110,540,30 +170,110,440,30 greyfont -20,150,1000,100 -20,140,1000,200 +20,150,1050,240 +20,140,1050,240 info yes %LONGREPEAT%%STARS%%DESCRIPTION% That's it. If it worked before it should work now. Justin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/18/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right.. > > You've got 20 more pixels to play with in the date field... > > Download the new ui.xml from here: http://www.juski.co.uk/pg-wide/ui.xml > > If you still have issues, tell me what screen res & font size you're > using (I've checked it at 1280x720, at the default font size & found > it to be okay). > > Regards, > Justin. > ___ So after having the issue, I looked at (vimdiff'd) the 2 files and they are far different. The default ui.xml is a very big file, the new one is quite small; comparing number of lines it's like 20:1 ratio. My guess is either that the ui.xml above is supposed to replace a portion of the ui.xml in the default file, or it's supposed to be a different file and was named ui.xml? Just stabbing in the dark, I don't know themes at all. Chad ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
Kirby Bakken wrote: >Sigh... as it turns out, the svn myththemes 'extraction' puts the >themes in /share/mythtv/themes, whereas the mythtv svn put them in >/usr/share/mythtv/themes... Once I rebuilt both and ran make install, >and watched where they were going, I figured it out. Now why the >myththemes svn goes into an 'odd' place... I don't know.. Thanks! > > Bad configure? But, regardless, you don't need to mess with the installer. If you just untar it to the right place, it will work and will not be deleted the next time you upgrade. And, if you really want to get fancy, put the "non-standard" themes in ~/.mythtv (I think in ~/.mythtv/themes, but can't remember off hand). Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
Michael T. Dean wrote: >Kirby Bakken wrote: > > > >>Appologies for being dumb, but how do I 'see' a new theme to be able to >>choose it? I untar'red the ProjectGreyhem-wide tarball in the themes >>dir, updated myththemes.pro, ran qmake myththemes.pro, make install, and >>can see the theme in /share/mythtv/themes... then I start mythfrontend, >>select Setup, Appearance, and don't see any it as a choice in the Theme: >>selection box. All the faq's imply that all I have to do is what >>I've done >> >> >> >You should be able to just untar the theme into the appropriate >directory. (Shouldn't it be /usr/share/mythtv/themes or >/usr/local/share/mythtv/themes, though?) No messing with the install >scripts required. > >My guess is you didn't get a complete/proper "install" with the changes >to made to the scripts. > >Mike >___ >mythtv-users mailing list >mythtv-users@mythtv.org >http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > > Sigh... as it turns out, the svn myththemes 'extraction' puts the themes in /share/mythtv/themes, whereas the mythtv svn put them in /usr/share/mythtv/themes... Once I rebuilt both and ran make install, and watched where they were going, I figured it out. Now why the myththemes svn goes into an 'odd' place... I don't know.. Thanks! ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
Kirby Bakken wrote: >Appologies for being dumb, but how do I 'see' a new theme to be able to >choose it? I untar'red the ProjectGreyhem-wide tarball in the themes >dir, updated myththemes.pro, ran qmake myththemes.pro, make install, and >can see the theme in /share/mythtv/themes... then I start mythfrontend, >select Setup, Appearance, and don't see any it as a choice in the Theme: >selection box. All the faq's imply that all I have to do is what >I've done > You should be able to just untar the theme into the appropriate directory. (Shouldn't it be /usr/share/mythtv/themes or /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes, though?) No messing with the install scripts required. My guess is you didn't get a complete/proper "install" with the changes to made to the scripts. Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
Appologies for being dumb, but how do I 'see' a new theme to be able to choose it? I untar'red the ProjectGreyhem-wide tarball in the themes dir, updated myththemes.pro, ran qmake myththemes.pro, make install, and can see the theme in /share/mythtv/themes... then I start mythfrontend, select Setup, Appearance, and don't see any it as a choice in the Theme: selection box. All the faq's imply that all I have to do is what I've done ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 17:37, Chad wrote: > On 1/18/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 18/01/06, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > After making that change I get the following error: > > > > > > "Myth could not locate the selector object..." > > > > > > My Screen Res and Font Size, :D I haven't quite figured it out yet to > > > be honest. I'm trying Modelines that supposedly give me a 1280x720, > > > but my screen size appearance never changes and my Xorg.0.log has: > > > Virtual screen size determined to be 1024 x 768 > > > > > > Which I assume means that is my resolution. I'm using an incorrect > > > DPI that I have to force in my startx script, and I can't quite pin > > > point where my problem exists. > > > > > > None of this applies to your Theme, but figure I should point it all > > > out so others don't see my post and do something stupid like I have > > > thinking it's correct. > > > > > > Chad > > > ___ > > > > Could not locate selector object? On which screen? I'm not seeing > > any such errors here. > > > > Justin > > ___ > > On trying to access the Watch Recordings screen. > > Chad Indeed, I got the same error. I'm running 1280x720 with ~15pixels removed from each direction to fix for overscan. 100DPI -- Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/18/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18/01/06, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > After making that change I get the following error: > > > > "Myth could not locate the selector object..." > > > > My Screen Res and Font Size, :D I haven't quite figured it out yet to > > be honest. I'm trying Modelines that supposedly give me a 1280x720, > > but my screen size appearance never changes and my Xorg.0.log has: > > Virtual screen size determined to be 1024 x 768 > > > > Which I assume means that is my resolution. I'm using an incorrect > > DPI that I have to force in my startx script, and I can't quite pin > > point where my problem exists. > > > > None of this applies to your Theme, but figure I should point it all > > out so others don't see my post and do something stupid like I have > > thinking it's correct. > > > > Chad > > ___ > > Could not locate selector object? On which screen? I'm not seeing > any such errors here. > > Justin > ___ On trying to access the Watch Recordings screen. Chad ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 18/01/06, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > After making that change I get the following error: > > "Myth could not locate the selector object..." > > My Screen Res and Font Size, :D I haven't quite figured it out yet to > be honest. I'm trying Modelines that supposedly give me a 1280x720, > but my screen size appearance never changes and my Xorg.0.log has: > Virtual screen size determined to be 1024 x 768 > > Which I assume means that is my resolution. I'm using an incorrect > DPI that I have to force in my startx script, and I can't quite pin > point where my problem exists. > > None of this applies to your Theme, but figure I should point it all > out so others don't see my post and do something stupid like I have > thinking it's correct. > > Chad > ___ Could not locate selector object? On which screen? I'm not seeing any such errors here. Justin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/18/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right.. > > You've got 20 more pixels to play with in the date field... > > Download the new ui.xml from here: http://www.juski.co.uk/pg-wide/ui.xml > > If you still have issues, tell me what screen res & font size you're > using (I've checked it at 1280x720, at the default font size & found > it to be okay). > > Regards, > Justin. > ___ After making that change I get the following error: "Myth could not locate the selector object..." My Screen Res and Font Size, :D I haven't quite figured it out yet to be honest. I'm trying Modelines that supposedly give me a 1280x720, but my screen size appearance never changes and my Xorg.0.log has: Virtual screen size determined to be 1024 x 768 Which I assume means that is my resolution. I'm using an incorrect DPI that I have to force in my startx script, and I can't quite pin point where my problem exists. None of this applies to your Theme, but figure I should point it all out so others don't see my post and do something stupid like I have thinking it's correct. Chad ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/18/06, Michael T. Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 01/18/06 15:53, Chad wrote: > > >On 1/18/06, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>looks good, I still get the cut off date values in Watch Recordings, etc. > >> > >> > >I did too, but I lowered my DPI to 75 from 100 and now it works on all > >3 digit dates (1/11 but not 11/11 for example). I blamed my own setup > >as I've been tweaking my font recently and probably dorked something, > >but since you mentioned it, I figure I should say "me too". > > > > > Please don't suggest using the wrong DPI. Displays for mythfrontend > should be set to 100 DPI. Changing the DPI only changes the problems > (probably to ones you feel are less intrusive) but does not fix them. > > Mike > ___ No worries, I wasn't suggesting to anyone to modify their DPI, I was just pointing out what I did, figure this might help with troubleshooting. Chad ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
Right.. You've got 20 more pixels to play with in the date field... Download the new ui.xml from here: http://www.juski.co.uk/pg-wide/ui.xml If you still have issues, tell me what screen res & font size you're using (I've checked it at 1280x720, at the default font size & found it to be okay). Regards, Justin. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 01/18/06 15:53, Chad wrote: >On 1/18/06, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>looks good, I still get the cut off date values in Watch Recordings, etc. >> >> >I did too, but I lowered my DPI to 75 from 100 and now it works on all >3 digit dates (1/11 but not 11/11 for example). I blamed my own setup >as I've been tweaking my font recently and probably dorked something, >but since you mentioned it, I figure I should say "me too". > > Please don't suggest using the wrong DPI. Displays for mythfrontend should be set to 100 DPI. Changing the DPI only changes the problems (probably to ones you feel are less intrusive) but does not fix them. Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/18/06, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 18 January 2006 01:43, Justin Hornsby wrote: > > Hello again. > > > > I've just put up version 1.2 of my ProjectGrayhem-wide theme. > > > > I made changes in the following places: > > > > Now showing more items in the menus > > More screen used in 'watch recordings', 'delete recordings' and 'program > > finder' > > > > I didn't change the size of the watermarks (because my source graphics > > aren't high enough resolution).. sorry Isaac. I'll get round to that > > soon enough ;-) > > > > Get the theme from www.juski.co.uk. > > > > And FYI this theme will work with SVN mythtv as well as 0.18 versions, > > just as the 4:3 theme does. > > > > Regards, > > Justin. > > looks good, I still get the cut off date values in Watch Recordings, etc. > > -- > Steve > ___ I did too, but I lowered my DPI to 75 from 100 and now it works on all 3 digit dates (1/11 but not 11/11 for example). I blamed my own setup as I've been tweaking my font recently and probably dorked something, but since you mentioned it, I figure I should say "me too". Otherwise, I really like this theme! It looks great on my TV with my setup. And I use XvMC so I get the gray OSD too which matches perfectly with this theme :D Thanks! ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 01:43, Justin Hornsby wrote: > Hello again. > > I've just put up version 1.2 of my ProjectGrayhem-wide theme. > > I made changes in the following places: > > Now showing more items in the menus > More screen used in 'watch recordings', 'delete recordings' and 'program > finder' > > I didn't change the size of the watermarks (because my source graphics > aren't high enough resolution).. sorry Isaac. I'll get round to that > soon enough ;-) > > Get the theme from www.juski.co.uk. > > And FYI this theme will work with SVN mythtv as well as 0.18 versions, > just as the 4:3 theme does. > > Regards, > Justin. looks good, I still get the cut off date values in Watch Recordings, etc. -- Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/17/06, Michael Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/18/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello again. > > > > I've just put up version 1.2 of my ProjectGrayhem-wide theme. > > > > Good work, with a good theme. > ___ Excellent will be trying out in a few minutes, I just installed it. Thanks! ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] ProjectGrayhem-wide theme version 1.2
On 1/18/06, Justin Hornsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello again. > > I've just put up version 1.2 of my ProjectGrayhem-wide theme. > Good work, with a good theme. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
