Re: [mythtv-users] newbie help - ATI capture card?

2005-09-04 Thread Robert Denier
If you have spent two weeks on it, I'd tend to recommend, if possible
giving up and ordering a Hauppage PVR150 from newegg or your computer
store of choice.  I'm trying to use cheap ATI video cards with s-video
out for front ends, which is doable afaik, but using a ATI for the
backend is probably just a path to frustration.

Of course the video out quality of video cards running Svideo is usually
sub par, with I think nvidia having the best ones and the best solution
being the hauppage one with TV out..  If you are using 20 or less tv's
you might consider seeing if you have a used computer store around you
can find some good used or just buy new monitors (They are surprisingly
affordable now).  Avoiding the whole s-video issue has its merits.  I
think I saw a sharp 19 monitor at one used computer store in St. Louis
at around $90.

Beyond the 20 range if you have the money, some tv's have digital
connections, and that brings with it a whole new set of issues.

Of course reading here might help...
http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1


On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 16:02 -0400, Todd Houle wrote:
 I've been fighting for 'bout 2 week now and failing :(   MythTV (I  
 think) is working..  I think the problem I'm having is getting Fedora  
 to recognize my TV Card.  It comes up in lspci as an ATI Rage 128.   
 It also have a coax port on it that is ignored.  I think I heard this  
 card was a TV Wonder card (not that all-in-Wonder) but am not sure.   
 ATI doesn't label anything...
 
 I also have 2 usb TV tuners to try including an ATI USB (I've no idea  
 what model/version) and MyTV2Go ('for Mac' sticker on back).  I was  
 using debian with no success so I switched to Fedora after I found  
 this tutorial on MythTV and Fedora online
 
 The TV program and MythTV both say can't open /dev/video0.  Looking  
 in /dev i see no video entries...Are there drivers for these  
 devices?  How do I find/install them?  I'm an advanced Mac OS X user  
 and very comfortable with command line- but newish to linux.
 
 Oh- and am I right that the card with the coax port on it is called a  
 capture card?
 
thanks
   Todd
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Re: [mythtv-users] newbie help - ATI capture card?

2005-09-04 Thread Bruce Markey

Todd Houle wrote:
I've been fighting for 'bout 2 week now and failing :(   MythTV (I  
think) is working..  I think the problem I'm having is getting Fedora  
to recognize my TV Card.  It comes up in lspci as an ATI Rage 128.   It 
also have a coax port on it that is ignored.  I think I heard this  card 
was a TV Wonder card (not that all-in-Wonder) but am not sure.   ATI 
doesn't label anything...


This doesn't add up so here's a quick rundown.

An ATI Rage 128 would normally be a graphics output card to
display on a monitor. It may also have s-video out, or more likely
a special ATI connector to go to group of wires or a small box
that has s-video, composite, and audio connectors. This may be
support TV-out. These would not do any video capture.

An ATI All-In-Wonder has both SVGA+TV-out for display and coax for
for capture built into the same one or two slot card. However, this
pokes the video capture data directly into the video output buffer
rather than sending it over the PCI bus. This makes it useless as
a video4linux device for MythTV or almost any other application
that records video. However, the card may still be useful for TV-out
only.

A TV-Wonder card does not have any SVGA connector and does not do
video output. This is supported by the bttv driver (bytesex.org)
and will absolutely work with MythTV. You would also need a separate
graphics card for SVGA or TV-out.


If your card says ATI Rage 128, has a coax and SVGA connector, it
is an AIW card and cannot be used for capture.

I also have 2 usb TV tuners to try including an ATI USB (I've no idea  
what model/version) and MyTV2Go ('for Mac' sticker on back).  I was  
using debian with no success so I switched to Fedora after I found  this 
tutorial on MythTV and Fedora online


The TV program and MythTV both say can't open /dev/video0.  Looking  
in /dev i see no video entries...Are there drivers for these  
devices?  How do I find/install them?  I'm an advanced Mac OS X user  
and very comfortable with command line- but newish to linux.


You need the bttv driver from http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/bttv.html
which should be included with your linux kernel. Google for bttv
to find help with setting this up and testing. Make sure video and
audio capture work before proceeding further with MythTV.

Oh- and am I right that the card with the coax port on it is called a  
capture card?


If you go to a computer store and ask for a capture card they may
point you to simple devices to hook up a camcorder. TV tuner card
avoids this confusion.

--  bjm
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