Re: [mythtv-users] suggestions for IR receiver

2005-06-15 Thread Steve Tate


Thanks -- that's exactly what I need...  time to break out the old
soldering iron

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, John Clabaugh wrote:


I have a simular situation and was wondering that to.  I have a pvr350
sensor with a bad plug.  I was going to repair it with a new one, but
if I could just wire it up and use it as a serial LIRC that would be
great.

Dan

On 6/12/05, Steve Tate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Carl Fongheiser wrote:


On 6/11/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 6/11/05, Paul Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It isn't a IrDA dongleit is an IR receiver.  When I set it up a
while ago it required the latest version of LIRC, but did work.



Paul,
   Thanks. So I'll order a StreamZap this evening and try it out next
week when it arrives. I've not found anywhere to purchase it locally
in San Jose although I'm sure someone must sell them. Guess I'll go
Amazon for now.

   So there's a difference between an 'IrDA dongle' and an 'IR
receiver'? I know absolutely nothing of this technology.


Yes, there's a big difference.  IrDA is a data communications protocol
that uses infrared.  The IR receivers being talked about here are for
CIR (short for consumer infrared), which is a catchall term for the
sort of IR used by remote controls.  It's just happens that a few IrDA
transceivers can be coaxed into handling CIR as well (the Actisys
IR-200L, for example.)  I don't think any of the USB ones are capable
of this.  The Actisys I mentioned is a serial model, and I don't
really recommend it; the range is pretty lousy.


Here's what I'm wondering: I've got a Hauppauge PVR-250, which came
with an IR receiver and remote.  However, then I decided to stick the
tuner in the backend (different room) and have a play-only frontend
based on an EPIA motherboard.  That means using the PVR-250 remote is
a bit of a problem, but I hate for it to go to waste and buy another
remote.

The EPIA has a CIR header on the board.  Is it possible to somehow
wire the Hauppauge IR receiver to this block and use it without having
the PVR-250 in that box?

I've googled a bit to try to figure this out, but haven't found
anything.

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Take a look at:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/116658?search_string=Hauppauge%20grey%20remote%20without%20a%20PVR250;#116658

This shows how to wire your existing IR sensor into a homebrew serial port.
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Re: [mythtv-users] suggestions for IR receiver

2005-06-14 Thread John Clabaugh
> I have a simular situation and was wondering that to.  I have a pvr350
> sensor with a bad plug.  I was going to repair it with a new one, but
> if I could just wire it up and use it as a serial LIRC that would be
> great.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On 6/12/05, Steve Tate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Carl Fongheiser wrote:
> >
> > > On 6/11/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> On 6/11/05, Paul Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>> It isn't a IrDA dongleit is an IR receiver.  When I set it up a
> > >>> while ago it required the latest version of LIRC, but did work.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Paul,
> > >>Thanks. So I'll order a StreamZap this evening and try it out next
> > >> week when it arrives. I've not found anywhere to purchase it locally
> > >> in San Jose although I'm sure someone must sell them. Guess I'll go
> > >> Amazon for now.
> > >>
> > >>So there's a difference between an 'IrDA dongle' and an 'IR
> > >> receiver'? I know absolutely nothing of this technology.
> > >
> > > Yes, there's a big difference.  IrDA is a data communications protocol
> > > that uses infrared.  The IR receivers being talked about here are for
> > > CIR (short for consumer infrared), which is a catchall term for the
> > > sort of IR used by remote controls.  It's just happens that a few IrDA
> > > transceivers can be coaxed into handling CIR as well (the Actisys
> > > IR-200L, for example.)  I don't think any of the USB ones are capable
> > > of this.  The Actisys I mentioned is a serial model, and I don't
> > > really recommend it; the range is pretty lousy.
> >
> > Here's what I'm wondering: I've got a Hauppauge PVR-250, which came
> > with an IR receiver and remote.  However, then I decided to stick the
> > tuner in the backend (different room) and have a play-only frontend
> > based on an EPIA motherboard.  That means using the PVR-250 remote is
> > a bit of a problem, but I hate for it to go to waste and buy another
> > remote.
> >
> > The EPIA has a CIR header on the board.  Is it possible to somehow
> > wire the Hauppauge IR receiver to this block and use it without having
> > the PVR-250 in that box?
> >
> > I've googled a bit to try to figure this out, but haven't found
> > anything.
> >
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Take a look at:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/116658?search_string=Hauppauge%20grey%20remote%20without%20a%20PVR250;#116658

This shows how to wire your existing IR sensor into a homebrew serial port.
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Re: [mythtv-users] suggestions for IR receiver

2005-06-13 Thread Robin Smith
So, I just got my hands on a PVR500MCE. Any ideas on a good IR
receiver that doesn't include a remote? What have other PVR500 users
done?

Robin
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Re: [mythtv-users] suggestions for IR receiver

2005-06-13 Thread Dan Littlejohn
I have a simular situation and was wondering that to.  I have a pvr350
sensor with a bad plug.  I was going to repair it with a new one, but
if I could just wire it up and use it as a serial LIRC that would be
great.

Dan

On 6/12/05, Steve Tate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Carl Fongheiser wrote:
> 
> > On 6/11/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On 6/11/05, Paul Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> It isn't a IrDA dongleit is an IR receiver.  When I set it up a
> >>> while ago it required the latest version of LIRC, but did work.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Paul,
> >>Thanks. So I'll order a StreamZap this evening and try it out next
> >> week when it arrives. I've not found anywhere to purchase it locally
> >> in San Jose although I'm sure someone must sell them. Guess I'll go
> >> Amazon for now.
> >>
> >>So there's a difference between an 'IrDA dongle' and an 'IR
> >> receiver'? I know absolutely nothing of this technology.
> >
> > Yes, there's a big difference.  IrDA is a data communications protocol
> > that uses infrared.  The IR receivers being talked about here are for
> > CIR (short for consumer infrared), which is a catchall term for the
> > sort of IR used by remote controls.  It's just happens that a few IrDA
> > transceivers can be coaxed into handling CIR as well (the Actisys
> > IR-200L, for example.)  I don't think any of the USB ones are capable
> > of this.  The Actisys I mentioned is a serial model, and I don't
> > really recommend it; the range is pretty lousy.
> 
> Here's what I'm wondering: I've got a Hauppauge PVR-250, which came
> with an IR receiver and remote.  However, then I decided to stick the
> tuner in the backend (different room) and have a play-only frontend
> based on an EPIA motherboard.  That means using the PVR-250 remote is
> a bit of a problem, but I hate for it to go to waste and buy another
> remote.
> 
> The EPIA has a CIR header on the board.  Is it possible to somehow
> wire the Hauppauge IR receiver to this block and use it without having
> the PVR-250 in that box?
> 
> I've googled a bit to try to figure this out, but haven't found
> anything.
> 
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Re: [mythtv-users] suggestions for IR receiver

2005-06-12 Thread Steve Tate

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Carl Fongheiser wrote:


On 6/11/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 6/11/05, Paul Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It isn't a IrDA dongleit is an IR receiver.  When I set it up a
while ago it required the latest version of LIRC, but did work.



Paul,
   Thanks. So I'll order a StreamZap this evening and try it out next
week when it arrives. I've not found anywhere to purchase it locally
in San Jose although I'm sure someone must sell them. Guess I'll go
Amazon for now.

   So there's a difference between an 'IrDA dongle' and an 'IR
receiver'? I know absolutely nothing of this technology.


Yes, there's a big difference.  IrDA is a data communications protocol
that uses infrared.  The IR receivers being talked about here are for
CIR (short for consumer infrared), which is a catchall term for the
sort of IR used by remote controls.  It's just happens that a few IrDA
transceivers can be coaxed into handling CIR as well (the Actisys
IR-200L, for example.)  I don't think any of the USB ones are capable
of this.  The Actisys I mentioned is a serial model, and I don't
really recommend it; the range is pretty lousy.


Here's what I'm wondering: I've got a Hauppauge PVR-250, which came
with an IR receiver and remote.  However, then I decided to stick the
tuner in the backend (different room) and have a play-only frontend
based on an EPIA motherboard.  That means using the PVR-250 remote is
a bit of a problem, but I hate for it to go to waste and buy another
remote.

The EPIA has a CIR header on the board.  Is it possible to somehow
wire the Hauppauge IR receiver to this block and use it without having
the PVR-250 in that box?

I've googled a bit to try to figure this out, but haven't found
anything.

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Re: [mythtv-users] suggestions for IR receiver

2005-06-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/11/05, Carl Fongheiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 6/11/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 6/11/05, Paul Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It isn't a IrDA dongleit is an IR receiver.  When I set it up a
> > > while ago it required the latest version of LIRC, but did work.
> > >
> >
> > Paul,
> >Thanks. So I'll order a StreamZap this evening and try it out next
> > week when it arrives. I've not found anywhere to purchase it locally
> > in San Jose although I'm sure someone must sell them. Guess I'll go
> > Amazon for now.
> >
> >So there's a difference between an 'IrDA dongle' and an 'IR
> > receiver'? I know absolutely nothing of this technology.
> 
> Yes, there's a big difference.  IrDA is a data communications protocol
> that uses infrared.  The IR receivers being talked about here are for
> CIR (short for consumer infrared), which is a catchall term for the
> sort of IR used by remote controls.  It's just happens that a few IrDA
> transceivers can be coaxed into handling CIR as well (the Actisys
> IR-200L, for example.)  I don't think any of the USB ones are capable
> of this.  The Actisys I mentioned is a serial model, and I don't
> really recommend it; the range is pretty lousy.
> 
> Carl Fongheiser
> 
Carl & Nick,
   First, thanks for the info and the links. I'll need to spend more
time reading them. Still the light is not turning on.

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [mythtv-users] suggestions for IR receiver

2005-06-11 Thread Carl Fongheiser
On 6/11/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 6/11/05, Paul Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It isn't a IrDA dongleit is an IR receiver.  When I set it up a
> > while ago it required the latest version of LIRC, but did work.
> >
> 
> Paul,
>Thanks. So I'll order a StreamZap this evening and try it out next
> week when it arrives. I've not found anywhere to purchase it locally
> in San Jose although I'm sure someone must sell them. Guess I'll go
> Amazon for now.
> 
>So there's a difference between an 'IrDA dongle' and an 'IR
> receiver'? I know absolutely nothing of this technology.

Yes, there's a big difference.  IrDA is a data communications protocol
that uses infrared.  The IR receivers being talked about here are for
CIR (short for consumer infrared), which is a catchall term for the
sort of IR used by remote controls.  It's just happens that a few IrDA
transceivers can be coaxed into handling CIR as well (the Actisys
IR-200L, for example.)  I don't think any of the USB ones are capable
of this.  The Actisys I mentioned is a serial model, and I don't
really recommend it; the range is pretty lousy.

Carl Fongheiser
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Re: [mythtv-users] suggestions for IR receiver

2005-06-11 Thread Nick
On 6/12/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>So there's a difference between an 'IrDA dongle' and an 'IR
> receiver'? I know absolutely nothing of this technology.

Mark,

You may find these links useful if you want to read up on it

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Infrared-HOWTO/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRDA

Good luck with the StreamZap - I'm sure by the next time I get a new
system and can't reuse bits I have lying around, serial ports will
have been consigned to history so I'll need a USB-based solution!

Cheers,
Nick
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Re: [mythtv-users] suggestions for IR receiver

2005-06-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/11/05, Paul Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It isn't a IrDA dongleit is an IR receiver.  When I set it up a
> while ago it required the latest version of LIRC, but did work.
> 

Paul,
   Thanks. So I'll order a StreamZap this evening and try it out next
week when it arrives. I've not found anywhere to purchase it locally
in San Jose although I'm sure someone must sell them. Guess I'll go
Amazon for now.

   So there's a difference between an 'IrDA dongle' and an 'IR
receiver'? I know absolutely nothing of this technology.

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [mythtv-users] suggestions for IR receiver

2005-06-11 Thread Paul Harvey
It isn't a IrDA dongleit is an IR receiver.  When I set it up a
while ago it required the latest version of LIRC, but did work.

On 6/11/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 6/11/05, Robin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there a good receiver only device available anywhere? USB input
> > would be ideal. I already have a remote, I just want the receiver,
> > ideally with native lirc support.
> >
> > I assume this is what Mike was looking for too...
> >
> > On 6/11/05, Tu Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I use the streamzap... available at thinkgeek.com and it works
> > > natively with lirc these days.
> > >
> > > -Tu
> > >
> 
> Is the StreamZap IR receiver supported by lirc? That would be cool. I
> thought from reading the lirc FAQ that USB IR receivers were not
> supported?
> 
> http://www.lirc.org/faq.html
> 
> >From that page:
> 
> #1  Is my USB IrDA dongle supported by LIRC?
> 
> No, it's technically not possible to use USB IrDA dongles with LIRC.
> 
> In a related question I have a Logitech IR receiver that goes with my
> wireless keyboard. Can a single receiver like that work for both a
> remote and a keyboard at the same time?
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: [mythtv-users] suggestions for IR receiver

2005-06-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/11/05, Robin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a good receiver only device available anywhere? USB input
> would be ideal. I already have a remote, I just want the receiver,
> ideally with native lirc support.
> 
> I assume this is what Mike was looking for too...
> 
> On 6/11/05, Tu Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I use the streamzap... available at thinkgeek.com and it works
> > natively with lirc these days.
> >
> > -Tu
> >

Is the StreamZap IR receiver supported by lirc? That would be cool. I
thought from reading the lirc FAQ that USB IR receivers were not
supported?

http://www.lirc.org/faq.html

>From that page:

#1  Is my USB IrDA dongle supported by LIRC?

No, it's technically not possible to use USB IrDA dongles with LIRC.

In a related question I have a Logitech IR receiver that goes with my
wireless keyboard. Can a single receiver like that work for both a
remote and a keyboard at the same time?

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [mythtv-users] suggestions for IR receiver

2005-06-11 Thread Robin Smith
Is there a good receiver only device available anywhere? USB input
would be ideal. I already have a remote, I just want the receiver,
ideally with native lirc support.

I assume this is what Mike was looking for too...

On 6/11/05, Tu Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I use the streamzap... available at thinkgeek.com and it works
> natively with lirc these days.
> 
> -Tu
> 
> 
> On 6/10/05, Mike Angstadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So what do you people recommend for an IR receiver?  I'm not looking
> > to buy another tuner right now, or I'd just get one with remote
> > functionality built right in, but are there any inexpensive standalone
> > IR receivers?
> > A quick search found a plethora of IrDA USB adapters, but the IrDA
> > doesn't seem to be widely supported for remote controls.
> >
> > I'm hoping for a USB solution, because I'm using my serial port to
> > control my cable box.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > -Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] suggestions for IR receiver

2005-06-11 Thread Tu Holmes
I use the streamzap... available at thinkgeek.com and it works
natively with lirc these days.

-Tu


On 6/10/05, Mike Angstadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So what do you people recommend for an IR receiver?  I'm not looking
> to buy another tuner right now, or I'd just get one with remote
> functionality built right in, but are there any inexpensive standalone
> IR receivers?
> A quick search found a plethora of IrDA USB adapters, but the IrDA
> doesn't seem to be widely supported for remote controls.
> 
> I'm hoping for a USB solution, because I'm using my serial port to
> control my cable box.
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: [mythtv-users] suggestions for IR receiver

2005-06-10 Thread Nick
On 6/11/05, Mike Angstadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So what do you people recommend for an IR receiver?  I'm not looking
> to buy another tuner right now, or I'd just get one with remote
> functionality built right in, but are there any inexpensive standalone
> IR receivers?
> A quick search found a plethora of IrDA USB adapters, but the IrDA
> doesn't seem to be widely supported for remote controls.
> 
> I'm hoping for a USB solution, because I'm using my serial port to
> control my cable box.

I'm currently using an IR receiver from www.zapway.de (ideal if you're
in Europe and don't want to build one yourself!). Because my system
has only 1 serial port and I was also using a blaster to control my
cable box, I too was after a USB based receiver.

However, after some checking with knowledgeable users on this list and
on lirc-users, I soldered the two devices together and now happily run
them both off the same serial port, using a single instace of LIRC.
Much easier although a tad fiddly having not soldered since school.

HTH,
Nick
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