Re: [Nagios-users] Active vs. passive checks; host won't check

2007-02-01 Thread Marc Powell


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check
> 
> Marc Powell <> wrote on Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:28 PM:
> 


> ping would have to work to check the status anyway, I think.  Sounds
> like I need to set up a host profile for routers that has at least the
> ping service.

This is usually recommended.

>   As for active/passive, what you all describe makes sense. It's
> just not documented that I could find.  The "Service Check Scheduling"

http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/2_0/passivechecks.html

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Re: [Nagios-users] Active vs. passive checks; host won't check

2007-02-01 Thread Steve Yates
Marc Powell <> wrote on Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:28 PM:

> You must define at
> least one service for every host if you want it to be checked. This
> requirement is likely to change with nagios-3.

Thanks to all the respondees.  I'd vote for that change as it
seems counterintuitive to me to not check the status of something that
Nagios knows is important (parent or grandparent to all other hosts),
and also the average router doesn't really run a "service" IMHO, though
ping would have to work to check the status anyway, I think.  Sounds
like I need to set up a host profile for routers that has at least the
ping service.

As for active/passive, what you all describe makes sense. It's
just not documented that I could find.  The "Service Check Scheduling"
doc page for instance doesn't contain the word "active," nor does
"Determining Status and Reachability of Network Hosts."

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Re: [Nagios-users] Active vs. passive checks; host won't check

2007-02-01 Thread Marc Powell


> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 1:46 PM
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> Subject: [Nagios-users] Active vs. passive checks; host won't check
> 

[chop]

>   I have two questions, and the first may help to answer the
> second.  I've never been too sure about the difference between active
> and passive checks.  What is the difference?  Is there a correct time
to
> use one or the other?

Active checks are initiated by nagios itself. The plugin runs on your
nagios machine and actively checks the status of some service. Passive
checks are received by nagios from an external source and not initiated
by nagios. Passive checks are often utilized in distributed monitoring
where you may have one or more other nagios installations performing
checks and sending the results of those checks back to a central nagios
server. Another use for passive checks would be to receive check results
from a script that is running on a machine that isn't directly
accessible by nagios due to a firewall or other circumstance.
 
>   I have one host (a router) that will not check.  Status=PENDING
> ("Host has not been checked yet") forever.  Active and passive checks
> are both enabled.  It is a router, so there are no other services.
Also
> I used Monarch to clone it from another router's host definition that
> was working.  Any ideas on why it wouldn't be checking?  I can ping
it's
> IP.

Under normal configurations, hosts are never checked until a service on
the host fails. No service, no host checks ever. You must define at
least one service for every host if you want it to be checked. This
requirement is likely to change with nagios-3.

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Re: [Nagios-users] Active vs. passive checks; host won't check

2007-02-01 Thread Aaron Segura
http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/2_0/checkscheduling.html#normal_scheduling

On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 13:45 -0600, Steve Yates wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>   I'm a relative newbie to Nagios though I have v2.5 set up,
> running, and a couple dozen hosts defined.  I set it up using Monarch.
> Nagios is being used to monitor external hosts (that are not running
> Nagios) for uptime and POP/HTTP/etc. services using check-host-alive and
> check_http, etc.  Parent relationships are defined (internal
> router->ext. router->host).
> 
>   I have two questions, and the first may help to answer the
> second.  I've never been too sure about the difference between active
> and passive checks.  What is the difference?  Is there a correct time to
> use one or the other?  
> 
>   I have one host (a router) that will not check.  Status=PENDING
> ("Host has not been checked yet") forever.  Active and passive checks
> are both enabled.  It is a router, so there are no other services.  Also
> I used Monarch to clone it from another router's host definition that
> was working.  Any ideas on why it wouldn't be checking?  I can ping it's
> IP.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  - Steve Yates
>  - ITS, Inc.
>  - You can fool too many of the people too much of the time.
> 
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[Nagios-users] Active vs. passive checks; host won't check

2007-02-01 Thread Steve Yates
Hi,

I'm a relative newbie to Nagios though I have v2.5 set up,
running, and a couple dozen hosts defined.  I set it up using Monarch.
Nagios is being used to monitor external hosts (that are not running
Nagios) for uptime and POP/HTTP/etc. services using check-host-alive and
check_http, etc.  Parent relationships are defined (internal
router->ext. router->host).

I have two questions, and the first may help to answer the
second.  I've never been too sure about the difference between active
and passive checks.  What is the difference?  Is there a correct time to
use one or the other?  

I have one host (a router) that will not check.  Status=PENDING
("Host has not been checked yet") forever.  Active and passive checks
are both enabled.  It is a router, so there are no other services.  Also
I used Monarch to clone it from another router's host definition that
was working.  Any ideas on why it wouldn't be checking?  I can ping it's
IP.

Thanks,

 - Steve Yates
 - ITS, Inc.
 - You can fool too many of the people too much of the time.

~ Taglines by Taglinator - www.srtware.com ~

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