Re: Antwort: Re: [Nagios-users] E-mail Message

2006-04-23 Thread Brandino Andreas
Maybe i am replying too late
You can find perl scripts that forward your mails to specific smtp
server (the mta you have already have!).
So you just replace the command in nagios - nothing more ;)


Wednesday, April 12, 2006, 5:03:58 PM, you wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 12.04.2006 15:43:26:

>> Because the Security Policy.
>> We cannot have two MTA in the same network.
>> 
>> There is another problem using the MTA with Nagios. When I try send 
>> e-mail to Nextel e-mail, it doesn´t working because the Nextel check if 
>> the source e-mail exist.
>> 
>> So, I have two problems.

> I suggest you first accumulate some knowledge about *nix
> architectures like Linux and MTAs (aka Mail Transfer Agents).

> There needs to be some mechanism to supply mails from a host
> to the smtp-server. On Unix architectures this is done by
> the MTA, which is usually sendmail. But then, it is not necessary
> to have the sendmail daemon process running and listening on the
> the smtp port, you can just have it run locally and forward
> locally submitted mails to your main smtp server.

> What you want to do is read the sendmail manual and learn how
> to configure your local MTA correctly.

> But what you are directly asking for is not possible. Neither Nagios,
> nor any other unix service implements its own smtp engine - this would
> be quite stupid and a big waste of ressources since EVERY *nix/Linux
> machine has at least a local MTA - or is majorly misconfigured.

> SMTP-Server != MTA

> And you should re-evaluate people in your security department who say
> "more then 1 SMTP server is a security risk". They obviously don't have
> much of a clue regarding security and how SMTP servers work ;)

> regards
> Sascha

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Re: [Nagios-users] E-mail Message

2006-04-12 Thread Alejandro Alfonso





Can anyone
help me about configure the Nagios to send e-mail message using other
SMTP server instead the SMTP server installed in the same server of the
Nagios ?
  
  
We cannot install two SMTP server on the same network, so I need
configure the Nagios to use my main SMTP server.
  
  
Thank you.
  
Hugo
  

Nagios can't help; use "ssmpt":

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/ssmtp/

its a "must-be" in any server (that dosen't user its owns smtp)

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Re: [Nagios-users] E-mail Message

2006-04-12 Thread Ken A



Ed Lucero wrote:



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nagios-users-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hugo Rebello
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 6:43 AM
To: jeff vier
Cc: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] E-mail Message

Because the Security Policy.
We cannot have two MTA in the same network.

There is another problem using the MTA with Nagios. When I try send
e-mail to Nextel e-mail, it doesn´t working because the Nextel check if
the source e-mail exist.

So, I have two problems.

Thank you.
Hugo



jeff vier wrote:


On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 10:24 -0300, Hugo Rebello wrote:



We cannot install two SMTP server on the same network, so I need
configure the Nagios to use my main SMTP server.



Why?
That's insanity.




Use Postfix as your MTA. You can set it up to not run smtpd so it will not
appear as an smtp server on the network. You can configure to also relay all
mail thru your Main smtp server. The installation configuration and setup is
very easy, much easier than sendmail.


Postfix is probably easier, but for those used to sendmail, the default 
sendmail config in most linux distros is to listen on localhost only, so 
this won't violate your security policy. Setting up forwarding is pretty 
simple too. Just change the 'smarthost' line in /etc/mail/sendmail.mc. 
If you don't have that file, then 'yum install sendmail-cf'.


Add an alias to root on your mail hub for user nagios and you should be 
okay with your pager service.


Ken
Pacific.Net



Ed



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RE: [Nagios-users] E-mail Message

2006-04-12 Thread Ed Lucero


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nagios-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hugo Rebello
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 6:43 AM
> To: jeff vier
> Cc: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] E-mail Message
> 
> Because the Security Policy.
> We cannot have two MTA in the same network.
> 
> There is another problem using the MTA with Nagios. When I try send
> e-mail to Nextel e-mail, it doesn´t working because the Nextel check if
> the source e-mail exist.
> 
> So, I have two problems.
> 
> Thank you.
> Hugo
> 
> 
> 
> jeff vier wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 10:24 -0300, Hugo Rebello wrote:
> >
> >
> >>We cannot install two SMTP server on the same network, so I need
> >>configure the Nagios to use my main SMTP server.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Why?
> >That's insanity.
> >
> >

Use Postfix as your MTA. You can set it up to not run smtpd so it will not
appear as an smtp server on the network. You can configure to also relay all
mail thru your Main smtp server. The installation configuration and setup is
very easy, much easier than sendmail.

Ed



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Antwort: Re: [Nagios-users] E-mail Message

2006-04-12 Thread srunschke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 12.04.2006 15:43:26:

> Because the Security Policy.
> We cannot have two MTA in the same network.
> 
> There is another problem using the MTA with Nagios. When I try send 
> e-mail to Nextel e-mail, it doesn´t working because the Nextel check if 
> the source e-mail exist.
> 
> So, I have two problems.

I suggest you first accumulate some knowledge about *nix
architectures like Linux and MTAs (aka Mail Transfer Agents).

There needs to be some mechanism to supply mails from a host
to the smtp-server. On Unix architectures this is done by
the MTA, which is usually sendmail. But then, it is not necessary
to have the sendmail daemon process running and listening on the
the smtp port, you can just have it run locally and forward
locally submitted mails to your main smtp server.

What you want to do is read the sendmail manual and learn how
to configure your local MTA correctly.

But what you are directly asking for is not possible. Neither Nagios,
nor any other unix service implements its own smtp engine - this would
be quite stupid and a big waste of ressources since EVERY *nix/Linux
machine has at least a local MTA - or is majorly misconfigured.

SMTP-Server != MTA

And you should re-evaluate people in your security department who say
"more then 1 SMTP server is a security risk". They obviously don't have
much of a clue regarding security and how SMTP servers work ;)

regards
Sascha

--
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Netzwerk Administration
IT-Services

ABIT AG
Robert-Bosch-Str. 1
40668 Meerbusch

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RE: [Nagios-users] E-mail Message

2006-04-12 Thread lars.bruun-hansen
 
Why no more than one SMTP server on network?

Most easy is to install and configure sendmail on the server where
Nagios runs.

Technically this would be another SMTP server but you would simply use
it to forward mail to your main SMTP server. There is lots of
information on the Internet about how to configure sendmail to simply
forward all e-mail to another SMTP server.

Also I suggest you read the Nagios FAQ 
http://www.nagios.org/faqs/viewfaq.php?faq_id=150&expand=false&showdesc=
false

which pretty much says it all on this subject.

Lars


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hugo
Rebello
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 15:25
To: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Nagios-users] E-mail Message

Guys,

Can anyone help me about configure the Nagios to send e-mail message
using other SMTP server instead the SMTP server installed in the same
server of the Nagios ?

We cannot install two SMTP server on the same network, so I need
configure the Nagios to use my main SMTP server.

Thank you.
Hugo





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Re: [Nagios-users] E-mail Message

2006-04-12 Thread Hugo Rebello

Because the Security Policy.
We cannot have two MTA in the same network.

There is another problem using the MTA with Nagios. When I try send 
e-mail to Nextel e-mail, it doesn´t working because the Nextel check if 
the source e-mail exist.


So, I have two problems.

Thank you.
Hugo



jeff vier wrote:


On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 10:24 -0300, Hugo Rebello wrote:
 

We cannot install two SMTP server on the same network, so I need 
configure the Nagios to use my main SMTP server.
   



Why?
That's insanity.
 





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Re: [Nagios-users] E-mail Message

2006-04-12 Thread jeff vier
On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 10:24 -0300, Hugo Rebello wrote:
> We cannot install two SMTP server on the same network, so I need 
> configure the Nagios to use my main SMTP server.

Why?
That's insanity.


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[Nagios-users] E-mail Message

2006-04-12 Thread Hugo Rebello

Guys,

Can anyone help me about configure the Nagios to send e-mail message 
using other SMTP server instead the SMTP server installed in the same 
server of the Nagios ?


We cannot install two SMTP server on the same network, so I need 
configure the Nagios to use my main SMTP server.


Thank you.
Hugo





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