Re: [Nagios-users] Sugguestion/Question?

2006-07-22 Thread Hugo van der Kooij
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, Tom Tran wrote:

>   Supposed you are the network admin,  sitting in front of huge monitor and 
> managing a status map of your entire network which has about 200 critical 
> servers...  if all the servers are up and running..   So, they are all green. 
>   How do you know which one has a problem like Running out of disk space or 
> exchange process has just stopped?  If you can propagate,  when the exchange 
> process stopped, it goes to critical status..  this child service will 
> propagrate to the parent node... and the network admin will see.. Oh.. 
> something is wrong with node xyz. because it's RED.. so let me drill down 
> that node to see what's going on?

Just suppose you want to keep an eye out for trouble. Then you want to
have the TAC screen on the main board.

That screen will show you very well if any issue arises.

Hugo.

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Re: [Nagios-users] Sugguestion/Question?

2006-07-22 Thread Tom Tran
Hello Harper,     Just my 2 cents..  :-)     I am not sure who I can contact but If you guys need help with QA or Dev, I can give a hand because I used to work on Unicenter... :-)     Thanks,  Tom Tran  eesimed.comHarper Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Hi Tom,Good thought. I think the meta-issue is what features go into adashboard. Propagation and drill-down are good ones to consider. Adashboard should present actionable information at a glance. There havebeen status map improvement discussions and I believe work is inprogress on it. You might check the archives to see who is working it.Cheers,- HarperTom Tran wrote:> Dear Harper and All,> > Thank you very
 much for you explanation. I am totally clear and I> have no problem with that at all.> > However, don't you think it's better this way.> > Supposed you are the network admin, sitting in front of huge monitor> and managing a status map of your entire network which has about 200> critical servers... if all the servers are up and running.. So, they> are all green. How do you know which one has a problem like Running> out of disk space or exchange process has just stopped? If you can> propagate, when the exchange process stopped, it goes to critical> status.. this child service will propagrate to the parent node... and> the network admin will see.. Oh.. something is wrong with node xyz.> because it's RED.. so let me drill down that node to see what's going on?> > Best regards,> Tom Tran,> PS: The statements above is CONSTRUCTIVE suggestion. I am not
 trying> to compare Nagios to any product. It is just my thought to help us to> have a better Nagios if you guys think my suggestion is useful.> > > > */Harper Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:> > Hi Tom,> Nagios has two top-level types of check, host checks and service> checks. Host checks are a check that verifies the host is up. It's> generally defined as a ping check. Service checks check services like> disk, cpu, swap, etc. are running on the host. By default, Nagios> checks a service and if it is in alarm, it runs the host check. If> the host check fails, Nagios sends host notification and doesn't send> service notification. If the host is up, it sends the service> notification.> > Nagios, only runs the host checks if the service fails. So if the> disk is bad, it's set critical, but the host check ping still works so>
 the host is not set down. This is intentional because if the disk> fails, and the host check fails, disk notifications are suppressed as> well as the other services being checked, and you get one alarm that> the host is down and not one alarm each for each service. Feature> > Nagios doesn't have propagation like Unicenter. It has a host check> so it can suppress alarm storms.> > Hope this helps.> Regards,> - Harper> Harper Mann> Groundwork Open Source> 510-599-2075 (cell)> > Tom Tran wrote:>> Dear All,> >> I am a newbie with Nagios but long time user of Enterprise>> Management (CA Unicenter in particular)...> >> Here is my suggestion (not sure If i implemented correctly...) or it>> has been designed this way.> >> Suppose I am monitoring a Server which I am trying to
 monitoring>> the following:>> Ping, disk space, Load...> >> And i set the threshold for my disk space.. and the disk space>> exceeds my critical threshold; therefore, the status for my Disk>> Space Watcher is Red (Critical)...> >> According to what i see right now.. the status for the whole server>> is GREEN.. I am not sure it is supposed to be green? Isn't it>> supposed to be RED because of the propagation from a child level?> >> Hope my explanation is clear enough.> >> Best regards,>> Tom Tran>> EESImed.> > >> */Deborah Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:> >> Hi,> >> I'm running Suse 9.1 with Nagios 2.0b4> >> I have a service alerting as Critical which I then acknowledged.>> Notifications were then supressed.>>
 However, I had to restart Nagios sometime later after adding>> some further>> services/hosts and it seems that the acknowledgement still>> remains across>> the restart but the notifications have started again.> >> Is this expected behaviour ? I've trawled through the docs and>> archives but>> cannot find a definitive>> answer so any advice would be appreciated.> >> thanks,>> deborah> > > >> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom> they>> are addressed. Any unauthorised distribution or copying is strictly>> prohibited.> >> Whilst Kognitio Limited takes steps to prevent the transmission of>> viruses via
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Re: [Nagios-users] Sugguestion/Question?

2006-07-22 Thread Tom Tran
Dear Harper and All,     Thank you very much for you explanation.   I am totally clear  and I have no problem with that at all.     However,  don't you think it's better this way.     Supposed you are the network admin,  sitting in front of huge monitor and managing a status map of your entire network which has about 200 critical servers...  if all the servers are up and running..   So, they are all green.   How do you know which one has a problem like Running out of disk space or exchange process has just stopped?  If you can propagate,  when the exchange process stopped, it goes to critical status..  this child service will propagrate to the parent node... and the network admin will see.. Oh.. something is wrong with node xyz. because it's RED.. so let me drill down that node to see what's going on?   
  Best regards,  Tom Tran,  PS:  The statements above is CONSTRUCTIVE suggestion.  I am not trying to compare Nagios to any product.It is just my thought to help us to have a better Nagios if you guys think my suggestion is useful.     Harper Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hash: SHA1Hi Tom,Nagios has two top-level types of check, host checks and servicechecks.  Host checks are a check that verifies the host is up.  It'sgenerally defined as a ping check.  Service checks check services likedisk, cpu, swap, etc. are running on the host.  By default, Nagioschecks a service and if it is in alarm, it runs the host check.  Ifthe host check
 fails, Nagios sends host notification and doesn't sendservice notification.  If the host is up, it sends the servicenotification.Nagios, only runs the host checks if the service fails.  So if thedisk is bad, it's set critical, but the host check ping still works sothe host is not set down.  This is intentional because if the diskfails, and the host check fails, disk notifications are suppressed aswell as the other services being checked, and you get one alarm thatthe host is down and not one alarm each for each service.   FeatureNagios doesn't have propagation like Unicenter.  It has a host checkso it can suppress alarm storms.Hope this helps.Regards,- - HarperHarper MannGroundwork Open Source510-599-2075 (cell)Tom Tran wrote:> Dear All,>  > I am a newbie with Nagios but long time user of
 Enterprise> Management (CA Unicenter in particular)...>  > Here is my suggestion (not sure If i implemented correctly...) or it> has been designed this way.>  > Suppose I am monitoring a Server which I am trying to monitoring> the following:>   Ping, disk space, Load...>  > And i set the threshold for my disk space.. and the disk space> exceeds my critical threshold; therefore,  the status for my Disk> Space Watcher is Red (Critical)...>  > According to what i see right now.. the status for the whole server> is GREEN.. I am not sure it is supposed to be green?  Isn't it> supposed to be RED  because of the propagation from a child level?>  > Hope my explanation is clear enough.>  > Best regards,> Tom Tran>
 EESImed.>>> */Deborah Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:>> Hi,>> I'm running Suse 9.1 with Nagios 2.0b4>> I have a service alerting as Critical which I then acknowledged.> Notifications were then supressed.> However, I had to restart Nagios sometime later after adding> some further> services/hosts and it seems that the acknowledgement still> remains across> the restart but the notifications have started again.>> Is this expected behaviour ? I've trawled through the docs and> archives
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Re: [Nagios-users] Sugguestion/Question?

2006-07-22 Thread Tom Tran
Hello Ted,     I am sorry but I thought Mr/Ms Deborad has the same problem..  that's why I did tag along.     Best regards,  Tom TranTedman Eng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  First off, please do not REPLY to a message if you're not replying to that message.  Post a NEW message.     Secondly, Nagios' design separates Hosts from Services.  Nagios does not actively monitor hosts.  Yes, it checks hosts, but it does not monitor
 them.  What's the difference?  Think of hosts as points or intersections along a road, services as being houses along the side of these roads.  Nagios only monitors houses (services).  If for some reason it cannot reach a house, it checks to see if there is a problem in the road (host) preventing it from getting to the house (service), and reports these findings to you.     If you want Nagios to work like CA's product, that can be done as well, but you'll lose ther ability to determine where along the roadway is the problem.  To do this, use check_cluster for your check-host-alive.   -Original Message-From: Tom Tran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:02 AMTo: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: [Nagios-users] Sugguestion/Question? Re: Notifications and acknowledgements  Dear All,     I am a newbie with Nagios but long time user of Enterprise Management (CA Unicenter in particular)...     Here is my suggestion (not sure If i implemented correctly...) or it has been designed this way.     Suppose I am monitoring a Server which I am trying to monitoring the following:    Ping, disk space, Load...     And i set the threshold for my disk space.. and the disk space
 exceeds my critical threshold; therefore,  the status for my Disk Space Watcher is Red (Critical)...     According to what i see right now.. the status for the whole server is GREEN.. I am not sure it is supposed to be green?  Isn't it supposed to be RED  because of the propagation from a child level?     Hope my explanation is clear enough.     Best regards,  Tom Tran  EESImed.  Deborah Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Hi, I'm running Suse 9.1 with Nagios 2.0b4I have a service alerting as Critical which I then acknowledged.Notifications were then supressed. However, I had to restart Nagios sometime later after adding some furtherservices/hosts and it seems that the
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Re: [Nagios-users] Sugguestion/Question?

2006-07-22 Thread Deborah Martin



i 
think my post has gotten mixed up with this one! 

  -Original Message-From: Tedman Eng 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 20 July 2006 22:08To: 
  'Tom Tran'; nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: Re: 
  [Nagios-users] Sugguestion/Question?
  First off, please do not REPLY to a message if you're not replying 
  to that message.  Post a NEW message.
   
  Secondly, Nagios' design separates Hosts from Services.  Nagios 
  does not actively monitor hosts.  Yes, it checks hosts, but it does not 
  monitor them.  What's the difference?  Think of hosts as points or 
  intersections along a road, services as being houses along the side of 
  these roads.  Nagios only monitors houses (services).  If for some 
  reason it cannot reach a house, it checks to see if there is a problem in the 
  road (host) preventing it from getting to the house (service), and 
  reports these findings to you.
   
  If 
  you want Nagios to work like CA's product, that can be done as well, but 
  you'll lose ther ability to determine where along the roadway is the 
  problem.  To do this, use check_cluster for your 
  check-host-alive.
   
  
-Original Message-From: Tom Tran 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 
10:02 AMTo: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: 
[Nagios-users] Sugguestion/Question? Re: Notifications and 
acknowledgements
Dear All,
 
I am a newbie with Nagios but long time user of Enterprise Management 
(CA Unicenter in particular)...
 
Here is my suggestion (not sure If i implemented correctly...) or it 
has been designed this way.
 
Suppose I am monitoring a Server which I am trying to monitoring 
the following:
  Ping, disk space, Load...
 
And i set the threshold for my disk space.. and the disk space exceeds 
my critical threshold; therefore,  the status for my Disk Space Watcher 
is Red (Critical)...
 
According to what i see right now.. the status for the whole server is 
GREEN.. I am not sure it is supposed to be green?  Isn't it supposed to 
be RED  because of the propagation from a child level?
 
Hope my explanation is clear enough.
 
Best regards,
Tom Tran
EESImed.
Deborah Martin 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi, 
  I'm running Suse 9.1 with Nagios 2.0b4I have a service 
  alerting as Critical which I then acknowledged.Notifications were then 
  supressed. However, I had to restart Nagios sometime later after 
  adding some furtherservices/hosts and it seems that the 
  acknowledgement still remains acrossthe restart but the notifications 
  have started again. Is this expected behaviour ? I've trawled 
  through the docs and archives butcannot find a definitiveanswer so 
  any advice would be appreciated. thanks,deborah 
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Re: [Nagios-users] Sugguestion/Question? Re: Notifications andacknowledgements

2006-07-22 Thread Morris, Patrick
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Tom Tran
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:02 AM
> To: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Nagios-users] Sugguestion/Question? Re: 
> Notifications andacknowledgements
> 
> Suppose I am monitoring a Server which I am trying to 
> monitoring the following:
>   Ping, disk space, Load...
>  
> And i set the threshold for my disk space.. and the disk 
> space exceeds my critical threshold; therefore,  the status 
> for my Disk Space Watcher is Red (Critical)...
>  
> According to what i see right now.. the status for the whole 
> server is GREEN.. I am not sure it is supposed to be green?  
> Isn't it supposed to be RED  because of the propagation 
> from a child level?

No, that is incorrect.  Read the Nagios docs for an understanding of the
difference between host and service checks.

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Re: [Nagios-users] Sugguestion/Question?

2006-07-20 Thread Tedman Eng



First 
off, please do not REPLY to a message if you're not replying to that 
message.  Post a NEW message.
 
Secondly, Nagios' design separates Hosts from Services.  Nagios does 
not actively monitor hosts.  Yes, it checks hosts, but it does not monitor 
them.  What's the difference?  Think of hosts as points or 
intersections along a road, services as being houses along the side of 
these roads.  Nagios only monitors houses (services).  If for some 
reason it cannot reach a house, it checks to see if there is a problem in the 
road (host) preventing it from getting to the house (service), and reports 
these findings to you.
 
If you 
want Nagios to work like CA's product, that can be done as well, but you'll 
lose ther ability to determine where along the roadway is the problem.  To 
do this, use check_cluster for your check-host-alive.
 

  -Original Message-From: Tom Tran 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:02 
  AMTo: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: 
  [Nagios-users] Sugguestion/Question? Re: Notifications and 
  acknowledgements
  Dear All,
   
  I am a newbie with Nagios but long time user of Enterprise Management (CA 
  Unicenter in particular)...
   
  Here is my suggestion (not sure If i implemented correctly...) or it has 
  been designed this way.
   
  Suppose I am monitoring a Server which I am trying to monitoring the 
  following:
    Ping, disk space, Load...
   
  And i set the threshold for my disk space.. and the disk space exceeds my 
  critical threshold; therefore,  the status for my Disk Space Watcher is 
  Red (Critical)...
   
  According to what i see right now.. the status for the whole server is 
  GREEN.. I am not sure it is supposed to be green?  Isn't it supposed to 
  be RED  because of the propagation from a child level?
   
  Hope my explanation is clear enough.
   
  Best regards,
  Tom Tran
  EESImed.
  Deborah Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  Hi, 
I'm running Suse 9.1 with Nagios 2.0b4I have a service 
alerting as Critical which I then acknowledged.Notifications were then 
supressed. However, I had to restart Nagios sometime later after adding 
some furtherservices/hosts and it seems that the acknowledgement still 
remains acrossthe restart but the notifications have started again. 
Is this expected behaviour ? I've trawled through the docs and 
archives butcannot find a definitiveanswer so any advice would be 
appreciated. thanks,deborah 
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[Nagios-users] Sugguestion/Question? Re: Notifications and acknowledgements

2006-07-20 Thread Tom Tran
Dear All,     I am a newbie with Nagios but long time user of Enterprise Management (CA Unicenter in particular)...     Here is my suggestion (not sure If i implemented correctly...) or it has been designed this way.     Suppose I am monitoring a Server which I am trying to monitoring the following:    Ping, disk space, Load...     And i set the threshold for my disk space.. and the disk space exceeds my critical threshold; therefore,  the status for my Disk Space Watcher is Red (Critical)...     According to what i see right now.. the status for the whole server is GREEN.. I am not sure it is supposed to be green?  Isn't it supposed to be RED  because of the propagation from a child level?     Hope my explanation is clear enough. 
    Best regards,  Tom Tran  EESImed.  Deborah Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Hi, I'm running Suse 9.1 with Nagios 2.0b4I have a service alerting as Critical which I then acknowledged.Notifications were then supressed. However, I had to restart Nagios sometime later after adding some furtherservices/hosts and it seems that the acknowledgement still remains acrossthe restart but the notifications have started again. Is this expected behaviour ? I've trawled through the docs and archives butcannot find a definitiveanswer so any advice would be appreciated. thanks,deborah This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential
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