Re: [Nagios-users] Using contacts in host definition -- Bug ?
Hi, can you tell me how to disabling object inheritance completely?
the services inherit the contact_groups defined in host
thanks in advance!
On 09/27/2012 02:37 PM, Frost, Mark {BIS} wrote:
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From: Andreas Ericsson [mailto:a...@op5.se]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:08 PM
To: Nagios Users List
Cc: Frost, Mark {BIS}
Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] Using contacts in host definition -- Bug ?
On 09/26/2012 09:25 AM, Frost, Mark {BIS} wrote:
I believe this is a feature introduced in 3.3 or thereabouts. I've
always found it very irritating and wish there was some way to turn
off inheriting host contacts/contactgroups to services as it's never
what I want.
It's a half misfeature. The intention was (and is) that services with no
contactgroups OR contacts should inherit the ones from the host, but it
was coded up so that if the service had contactgroups (but not contacts)
it would inherit contacts (but not contactgroups) from the host. The
same
applied when the service had contacts but no contactgroups and the host
had contactgroups.
In 4.0 this is fixed so only services with neither contacts nor contact-
groups inherit them from the host.
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I still see that as a misfeature. I would rather have the preflight
check tell me there's an error because I forgot to define contacts
for the service than for it to assume that what I want is anything to
be inherited from a host definition. I'd be OK if that were the default
behavior and was configurable, but I'd be the first to disable that
in nagios.cfg if it were a configurable preference. Yeah, I know,
patches gleefully accepted :-).
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Re: [Nagios-users] Using contacts in host definition -- Bug ?
On 09/26/2012 09:25 AM, Frost, Mark {BIS} wrote:
I believe this is a feature introduced in 3.3 or thereabouts. I've
always found it very irritating and wish there was some way to turn
off inheriting host contacts/contactgroups to services as it's never
what I want.
It's a half misfeature. The intention was (and is) that services with no
contactgroups OR contacts should inherit the ones from the host, but it
was coded up so that if the service had contactgroups (but not contacts)
it would inherit contacts (but not contactgroups) from the host. The same
applied when the service had contacts but no contactgroups and the host
had contactgroups.
In 4.0 this is fixed so only services with neither contacts nor contact-
groups inherit them from the host.
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Re: [Nagios-users] Using contacts in host definition -- Bug ?
-Original Message-
From: Andreas Ericsson [mailto:a...@op5.se]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:08 PM
To: Nagios Users List
Cc: Frost, Mark {BIS}
Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] Using contacts in host definition -- Bug ?
On 09/26/2012 09:25 AM, Frost, Mark {BIS} wrote:
I believe this is a feature introduced in 3.3 or thereabouts. I've
always found it very irritating and wish there was some way to turn
off inheriting host contacts/contactgroups to services as it's never
what I want.
It's a half misfeature. The intention was (and is) that services with no
contactgroups OR contacts should inherit the ones from the host, but it
was coded up so that if the service had contactgroups (but not contacts)
it would inherit contacts (but not contactgroups) from the host. The same
applied when the service had contacts but no contactgroups and the host
had contactgroups.
In 4.0 this is fixed so only services with neither contacts nor contact-
groups inherit them from the host.
--
Andreas Ericsson andreas.erics...@op5.se
I still see that as a misfeature. I would rather have the preflight
check tell me there's an error because I forgot to define contacts
for the service than for it to assume that what I want is anything to
be inherited from a host definition. I'd be OK if that were the default
behavior and was configurable, but I'd be the first to disable that
in nagios.cfg if it were a configurable preference. Yeah, I know,
patches gleefully accepted :-).
Mark
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Re: [Nagios-users] Using contacts in host definition -- Bug ?
On 09/27/2012 02:37 PM, Frost, Mark {BIS} wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Andreas Ericsson [mailto:a...@op5.se]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:08 PM
To: Nagios Users List
Cc: Frost, Mark {BIS}
Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] Using contacts in host definition -- Bug ?
On 09/26/2012 09:25 AM, Frost, Mark {BIS} wrote:
I believe this is a feature introduced in 3.3 or thereabouts. I've
always found it very irritating and wish there was some way to turn
off inheriting host contacts/contactgroups to services as it's never
what I want.
It's a half misfeature. The intention was (and is) that services with no
contactgroups OR contacts should inherit the ones from the host, but it
was coded up so that if the service had contactgroups (but not contacts)
it would inherit contacts (but not contactgroups) from the host. The same
applied when the service had contacts but no contactgroups and the host
had contactgroups.
In 4.0 this is fixed so only services with neither contacts nor contact-
groups inherit them from the host.
--
Andreas Ericsson andreas.erics...@op5.se
I still see that as a misfeature. I would rather have the preflight
check tell me there's an error because I forgot to define contacts
for the service than for it to assume that what I want is anything to
be inherited from a host definition. I'd be OK if that were the default
behavior and was configurable, but I'd be the first to disable that
in nagios.cfg if it were a configurable preference. Yeah, I know,
patches gleefully accepted :-).
Well, disabling object inheritance completely is pretty simple. Doing
it on a per-variable basis is less so.
I'm on the fence with this. On the one hand I really don't care what
the default is. On the other hand I really don't want bugreports from
people who're relying on that feature and suddenly realize it's gone
missing.
As a workaround for your particular case, you could specify a catch-all
service template which other service templates reference, where you set
contactgroups and contacts to something that doesn't exist. That way
you'll get your error and I can dodge bugreports ;)
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Re: [Nagios-users] Using contacts in host definition -- Bug ?
I believe this is a feature introduced in 3.3 or thereabouts. I've always found it very irritating and wish there was some way to turn off inheriting host contacts/contactgroups to services as it's never what I want. Mark -Original Message- From: Schimpke, Dr. Thomas - bhn [mailto:schimpke.tho...@bhn-services.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:58 AM To: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Nagios-users] Using contacts in host definition -- Bug ? Hi, I noticed some strange behaviour if I add a contact to a host definition in Nagios 3.3.2 (or so) and 3.4.1. It seems, that if I add a contact to a host, this contact will be automatically added to all services on this host also - I've checked this using the objects cache file. This kind of inheritance does not seem to happen with normal contact groups. From the documentation: This is a list of the short names of the contacts that should be notified whenever there are problems (or recoveries) with this host... One may read this like: ...the list of contacts is notified for each and every problem (even in the services) associated with the host. But for the contact_groups: This is a list of the short names of the contact groups that should be notified whenever there are problems (or recoveries) with this host. And there this kind of inheritance does not take place. So at least, the behaviour is inconsistent - but I suspect this is a bug. You may want to have a phone call in the middle of the night, because your server went downBut I think you don't want to have a call for *all* services on the host... Cheers, Thomas -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null
