Product Evaluations and Comments

2002-04-02 Thread Don Lundquist


Not sure if I am following protocol for this list, but I was hoping to
get constructive comments to product eval comparisons between Riverstone
 Cisco. If anyone has performed evals between these two vendor products
I would welcome that info off-list...

Regards,
Don Lundquist
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Re: How to get better security people

2002-04-02 Thread Sean Donelan


On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Christopher E. Brown wrote:
   I think it comes down to being able to deal creatively with a
 lack of total control, and find ways to limit what you cannot
 eliminate.

Security specialists can't be everywhere, can't do everything, and
can't stop every bad thing.  The reality is the people who have
the biggest impact on security don't have security in their job
title. Instead of a neighborhood watch do we need a network watch?
While we need a few people with deep security knowledge, we also
need to spread a thin layer of security pixie dust throughout the
entire organization.

Is it really a lack of control.  While some security specilists
carry a big stick, on most projects security is just one of
many specialities required to work together. If you are a
security specialist, just getting invited to a project before
its finished is a major accomplishment.




Re: How to get better security people

2002-04-02 Thread Jake Khuon


### On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 01:17:59 -0500 (EST), Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
### casually decided to expound upon Christopher E. Brown
### [EMAIL PROTECTED] the following thoughts about Re: How to get better
### security people:

SD While we need a few people with deep security knowledge, we also
SD need to spread a thin layer of security pixie dust throughout the
SD entire organization.

It's just like it is within the IETF process...  Security considerations
must be undertaken by everyone.


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