Call for papers - Second Nordnog

2002-11-11 Thread Kurt Erik Lindqvist




(Apologies for eventual off-topic posting)

The second Nordic Operator Conference, Nordnog-2, will be held 12-13/2 
2003 at the Quality Globe Hotel in Stockholm, Sweden. For information 
on the hotel, please see http://www.globehotel.se/default_1.html.

If you have something you want to present, please contact 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To see the agenda, please look at 
http://www.nordnog.org.

For registration please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the 
followoing information :

First name:
Last name:
Company:
Attending Day1:
Attending Day2:


Best regards,

- kurtis -



Re: Call for papers - Second Nordnog

2002-11-11 Thread Kurt Erik Lindqvist



This was the call for papers

- kurtis -

On måndag, nov 11, 2002, at 16:10 Europe/Stockholm, Rasmus Aveskogh 
wrote:


Unfortunately there's a 404 on

http://www.nordnog.org/nordnog2/agenda.html

-ra

- Original Message -
From: Kurt Erik Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:06 pm
Subject: Call for papers - Second Nordnog





(Apologies for eventual off-topic posting)

The second Nordic Operator Conference, Nordnog-2, will be held 12-
13/2
2003 at the Quality Globe Hotel in Stockholm, Sweden. For
information
on the hotel, please see http://www.globehotel.se/default_1.html.

If you have something you want to present, please contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To see the agenda, please look at
http://www.nordnog.org.

For registration please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
the
followoing information :

First name:
Last name:
Company:
Attending Day1:
Attending Day2:


Best regards,

- kurtis -









Re: VeriSign Moves DNS Server To Boost Security

2002-11-11 Thread Stephen Sprunk

Thus spake Gil Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 In an effort to protect the Internet from future hacking attacks, VeriSign
 (Nasdaq: VRSN - news) has moved one of the Net's root servers to an
 undisclosed physical and virtual location.

Maybe I'm missing something...  J's virtual location aka IP address is now
available from every DNS server in the world, not to mention the public
announcement that VeriSign made to various lists.  How is this undisclosed?

S




Re: VeriSign Moves DNS Server To Boost Security

2002-11-11 Thread David Charlap

Stephen Sprunk wrote:

Thus spake Gil Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]


In an effort to protect the Internet from future hacking attacks, VeriSign
(Nasdaq: VRSN - news) has moved one of the Net's root servers to an
undisclosed physical and virtual location.


Maybe I'm missing something...  J's virtual location aka IP address is now
available from every DNS server in the world, not to mention the public
announcement that VeriSign made to various lists.  How is this undisclosed?


And how does it help anybody if a root server's address is made secret?

Wouldn't an off-line backup be just as useful and cheaper to implement?

-- David




RE: Could someone from Bell Nexxia contact me offlist

2002-11-11 Thread nanog

The Bell Nexxia looking glass is (I got this from traceroute.org):

http://looking-glass.in.bellnexxia.net:8080/




Mind sharing the Nexxia looking glass URL?

Thanks,

Joel

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nanog;jamesstewartsmith.com]
 Sent: November 10, 2002 12:35 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Could someone from Bell Nexxia contact me offlist



 I'm having a routing issue where anyone on the Bell Nexxia
 network can't connect to my web server, but they can get to
 every other IP
 address on the same network.  There seems to be something odd
 I found in a
 Bell Nexxia looking glass.   Any help would be appreciated.


 --
 James Smith

 CCNP Certified
 Sun Certified Systems Administrator for Solaris 8



-- 
James Smith

CCNP Certified
Sun Certified Systems Administrator for Solaris 8





telis

2002-11-11 Thread Scott Granados

Just a note, telis has cleared their bogan filters on 69.x.x.x and it
appears it was a couple weeks ago my fault:).  THey also were very
responsive with this so hats off to them.

THanks again!

Scott





huge power outage in sj

2002-11-11 Thread Scott Granados

Just a note, about ten minutes ago a big jult went through our building at
35 S. Market and we lost power entirely.  It looks like 55 S market is
also with out power although I assume generators have kicked in.  Cause is
unknown yet but there is lots of fire and police activity near by so
probably a substation or something blew up.





Re: huge power outage in sj

2002-11-11 Thread George William Herbert


I have a couple of companies I work with reporting 55 South Market
San Jose also lost AC power temporarily, but the generators are on
and stable at this time.

No word as to the cause from either of them.


-george william herbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




PCCW/CAIS as transit

2002-11-11 Thread Bogdan Surdu

Hi,

Can someone give me a few impressions (offline) about PCCW/BtN (ex CAIS)
as transit supplier.

Thanks,

Tim
---
Be different. Think.





Re: huge power outage in sj

2002-11-11 Thread Roy

No effects here in South San Jose!

Scott Granados wrote:

 Just a note, about ten minutes ago a big jult went through our building at
 35 S. Market and we lost power entirely.  It looks like 55 S market is
 also with out power although I assume generators have kicked in.  Cause is
 unknown yet but there is lots of fire and police activity near by so
 probably a substation or something blew up.




Re: VeriSign Moves DNS Server To Boost Security

2002-11-11 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:39:25 CST, Stephen Sprunk [EMAIL PROTECTED]  said:
 Maybe I'm missing something...  J's virtual location aka IP address is now
 available from every DNS server in the world, not to mention the public
 announcement that VeriSign made to various lists.  How is this undisclosed?

You know that, and think it's silly.  I know that, and think it's silly.

But it keeps the CEOs from getting distracted from their management by
buzzword path.  Something Is Being Done, and It's All OK Now.





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Breaking Stuff by Fixing NAT

2002-11-11 Thread Crist J. Clark

We have some dial-up-like customers behind a device doing the dreaded
Network Address Translation (NAT). We are doing one-to-one
NAT. Customers get PPP connections with 10/8 addresses. The NAT is
done far down stream from our end of the point-to-point connnection at
the border with our ISP. Do not ask me why it was done that way. The
network engineers want to discontinue doing NAT. From our point of
view, NAT doesn't provide any benefits (it did take a while to get it
to sink in that it provides no security, and we do need to add some
BGP complexity since before packets could get NATed at any egress
point and find their way back). NAT only created continuous
headaches.

But there are still management reservations, the only reservation we
do not have a good answer for is the (arbitrary) claim that turning
off NAT may break stuff for customers who depend on it. Now we have
customers that do some pretty messed up stuff, and everybody knows
about various commercial apps that do really, really messed up stuff,
but none of us can think of anything that turning NAT off will
break. But perhaps all of our minds are just too cluttered with all of
the weird stuff that turning off NAT will allow to _work._

Has anyone here been in a similar situation? Did turning off NAT break
anything? Is anyone aware of or can think of anything that turning off
NAT might break? (Ignore the fact any customers connected during the
actual change may have service intrupted. I am only worried about
something that doesn't work next time they dial-up after the change.)

Thanks.
-- 
Crist J. Clark | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/| [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Breaking Stuff by Fixing NAT

2002-11-11 Thread Eliot Lear

Crist J. Clark wrote:


But there are still management reservations, the only reservation we
do not have a good answer for is the (arbitrary) claim that turning
off NAT may break stuff for customers who depend on it. Now we have
customers that do some pretty messed up stuff, and everybody knows
about various commercial apps that do really, really messed up stuff,
but none of us can think of anything that turning NAT off will
break. But perhaps all of our minds are just too cluttered with all of
the weird stuff that turning off NAT will allow to _work._


I have to admit a certain amount of amusement when I read this.

In general you should be okay.  The things that could break are likely 
those things that have IP addresses hardcoded.  None of the following 
checks is any different than what you would do to renumber a network.

So, check your access lists on your routers, check any UNIX 
configuration files, as well as any SSL certificates that were somehow 
gotten with 10/8 addresses.  Also, if you do H.323, check your gateway 
configurations.  Users that make use of personal firewalls may have some 
minor complications along these same lines, particularly if servers are 
changing addresses.

The one change that you should be mindful of is this: if the company 
*was* relying in some way on security through obscurity, you may need to 
add a few additional protections, particularly if you want to prevent 
peer-to-peer access, such as Gnutella.  Make sure that you have a real 
firewall in place, as you should have before ;-)

Regards,

Eliot



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2002-11-11 Thread Harsha Narayan

Hi,

   Can anyone please tell me the answer to the following question?

   How do ISPs manage the allocations they get from the RIRs? More
specifically, do they make the assignments from this sequentially or not?
Are multihoming assignments to customers amidst non-multihoming
assignments?

   I ask this because /23s and /24s seem to be scattered over a wide area
- they are not adjacent to each other.


Harsha.





RE:

2002-11-11 Thread Phil Rosenthal

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-nanog;merit.edu] On Behalf Of
Harsha Narayan
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 



How do ISPs manage the allocations they get from the RIRs? More
specifically, 
 do they make the assignments from this sequentially or not? Are
multihoming 
 assignments to customers amidst non-multihoming assignments?

I ask this because /23s and /24s seem to be scattered over a wide
area
 - they are not adjacent to each other.

Single-homed customers migrating to multi-homed is one thing that would
cause this.

--Phil





Re: Breaking Stuff by Fixing NAT

2002-11-11 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:04:07 PST, Crist J. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]  said:

 Has anyone here been in a similar situation? Did turning off NAT break
 anything? Is anyone aware of or can think of anything that turning off
 NAT might break? (Ignore the fact any customers connected during the

If the users have been getting a static address in the 10/8 range, they may
have it hardcoded someplace.  If they've been getting their address/netmask/
DNS/etc via DHCP, then they'd already have discovered it breaks when they
hardcode it since the next time they connect they'll be up a creek.
-- 
Valdis Kletnieks
Computer Systems Senior Engineer
Virginia Tech




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