RE: ENUM/E.164 books

2003-02-23 Thread Irwin Lazar


I've put some ENUM resources on http://www.itprc.com/tcp_ip.htm

Irwin


-Original Message-
From: Pete Kruckenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ENUM/E.164 books



Anyone have recommendations on good books (or similar
resources) on ENUM/E.164 for education, planning, design,
implementation and/or operation?

Pete.



RE: Symantec detected Slammer worm hours before

2003-02-23 Thread Terry Baranski

Apologies if this is old news.  It's from Thursday, but I didn't see it
until today.

Symantec comes clean Somewhat:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/29406.html

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Symantec detected Slammer worm hours before




Wow, Symantec is making an amazing claim.  They were able to detect the
slammer worm hours before.  Did anyone receive early alerts from
Symantec about the SQL slammer worm hours earlier?  Academics have
estimated the worm spread world-wide, and reached its maximum scanning
rate in less than 10 minutes.

I assume Symantec has some data to back up their claim.

http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/content.cfm?articleid=1985EID=0
  For example, the DeepSight Threat Management System discovered the
  Slammer worm hours before it began rapidly propagating. Symantec's
  DeepSight Threat Management System then delivered timely alerts and
  procedures, enabling administrators to protect against the attack
  before their environment was compromised.



Re: 223.255.255.0/24

2003-02-23 Thread bdragon

 I can imagine there is some reason why this was originally reserved thats 
 probably not valid any more..

It definately is not valid unless someone is living in the stone ages.
The network corresponds to the numerically highest Class C network,
and is reserved for a potential future classful special purpose
(as is 128.0.0.0/16, 191.255.0.0/16, and 192.0.0.0/24). Similar actual
special usage is 0.0.0.0/8 and 127.0.0.0/8.

So, it relies upon the assumption that there are still pre-cidr systems
out there, and that a special-usage /24 would be needed in the future.

While I can see some Classful gear still being out there, I doubt any
new special-purpose blocks will be needed, and if they are, they will
likely just be pulled out from somewhere in the middle.

 However seems like a lot of effort to change documents and policies for a single 
 /24 !

I could go either way. I highly doubt we really need to preserve the
reserved status, but if it ceases to be reserved, someone really needs
to explicitly state that.

So far, I've received no response from IANA or APNIC on the subject.

 Steve



Re: 223.255.255.0/24

2003-02-23 Thread Simon Lyall

On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So far, I've received no response from IANA or APNIC on the subject.

http://www.apnic.net/mailing-lists/apops/archive/2003/02/msg9.html

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Re: 223.255.255.0/24

2003-02-23 Thread Anne Lord


hi Simon, 

In light of the discussions on this list and subsequent to the posting
referenced below, use of this network has been added to the agenda of
the Address Policy SIG as an AOB discussion item by the community.  

http://www.apnic.net/meetings/15/sigs/policy/index.html

The Address Policy SIG is part of the 15th APNIC Open Policy Meeting which 
is taking place in Taiwan this week in conjunction with APRICOT.  See:

http://www.apnic.net/meetings/index.html

The session will be multicast - multicast info will be on the website
later today.

The outcome of the discussions at the Address Policy SIG will be posted
to this list.

regards,
Anne

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http://www.apnic.netfax: +61 7 3858 3199
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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Simon Lyall wrote:

 
 On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So far, I've received no response from IANA or APNIC on the subject.
 
 http://www.apnic.net/mailing-lists/apops/archive/2003/02/msg9.html
 
 




Re: 223.255.255.0/24

2003-02-23 Thread Randy Bush

 The outcome of the discussions at the Address Policy SIG will be posted
 to this list.

where, one hopes, discussion will continue, yes?

randy



Re: 223.255.255.0/24

2003-02-23 Thread bmanning

 
 
  The outcome of the discussions at the Address Policy SIG will be posted
  to this list.
 
 where, one hopes, discussion will continue, yes?
 
 randy
 
why would an APNIC/AP region specific issue need to be discussed
on the NANOG list and not the RIPE/AFNOG/et.al. regional ops lists?
This is a prefix delegated to the APregion and so they should be
the ones who set the policies for the prefixes they are responsible
for. I appreciate their willingness to share the outcome of their
deliberations, but why NAites have any special say in AP policies
is a bit beyond me.

--bill


untied

2003-02-23 Thread Randy Bush

could someone else please check the dns for www.united.com?  the servers
for united.com seem to delegate www.united.com, but the delegatee seems
not to return an soa.  i get very confusing results.

randy, feeling stoopid



Re: untied

2003-02-23 Thread Scott Kupferschmidt

[EMAIL PROTECTED] host -a www.united.com
Trying null domain
Trying domain isprime.com
rcode = 3 (Non-existent domain), ancount=0
Trying null domain
Host not found, try again.

Sincerely,

Scott Kupferschmidt
ISPrime, Inc.
866.502.4678 ext. 3
AIM: Scott ISPrime - ICQ: 174337249

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Randy Bush wrote:

 
 could someone else please check the dns for www.united.com?  the servers
 for united.com seem to delegate www.united.com, but the delegatee seems
 not to return an soa.  i get very confusing results.
 
 randy, feeling stoopid
 
 



Re: 223.255.255.0/24

2003-02-23 Thread Sean Donelan

On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   why would an APNIC/AP region specific issue need to be discussed
   on the NANOG list and not the RIPE/AFNOG/et.al. regional ops lists?
   This is a prefix delegated to the APregion and so they should be
   the ones who set the policies for the prefixes they are responsible
   for. I appreciate their willingness to share the outcome of their
   deliberations, but why NAites have any special say in AP policies
   is a bit beyond me.

The question is really whether IANA properly implemented the relevant
RFC's by delagating a block containing a reserved special use address to a
registry without maintaining the previous reservations on those addresses.

Its not up to APNIC how to handle the reserved special use addresses, just
like the other special use addresses in ARIN's space are really outside
of ARIN's scope.  ARIN can't re-assign special use addresses in its
space for other purposes. Nor should APNIC or RIPE or LANIC or any other
registry which is assigned a /8 block containing special use addresses.

Its not APNIC bashing.  If the ARIN board got to gether and decided to
assign 128.0.0.0/16 I think folks would be raising questions about ARIN.

IANA should have properly excluded the IANA reserved special use block
from the delegation to APNIC, just like the other reserved special use
blocks are reserved from ARIN's use.




Re: untied

2003-02-23 Thread Randy Bush

 btw, when querying bind9 and requesting
 'any www.united.com', i get servfail, but when requesting 
 'A www.united.com', i do get a response.

that is the reaction to their misconfiguration.

i am in a dual-stack universe over here (iij/tokyo).  so the
browser, looking for an A or , probably issues a query
for ANY.

united's dns is sorely broken.  anyone know how to get their
attention.  i can't email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the same
reason.

randy



Re: untied

2003-02-23 Thread Avleen Vig

On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 02:03:30PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote:
 could someone else please check the dns for www.united.com?  the servers
 for united.com seem to delegate www.united.com, but the delegatee seems
 not to return an soa.  i get very confusing results.

Hmm
host -t NS united.com:
united.com name server dns02.uls-prod.com.
united.com name server dns01.uls-prod.com.

host -t A www.united.com dns01.uls-prod.com:
www.united.com has address 64.95.89.8

host -t A www.united.com dns02.uls-prod.com:
www.united.com has address 64.95.89.8

host -t SOA united.com dns01.uls-prod.com:
united.com SOA ns0.uls-prod.com. hostinfo.ualloyalty.com. 2002112102 300
3600 604800 86400

host -t SOA united.com dns02.uls-prod.com:
united.com SOA ns0.uls-prod.com. hostinfo.ualloyalty.com. 2002112102 300
3600 604800 86400

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Re: untied

2003-02-23 Thread Ross Veach
At 2:03 PM +0900 2/24/03, Randy Bush wrote:
could someone else please check the dns for www.united.com?
Doesn't look good...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home 3% dig @a.gtld-servers.net www.united.com

;  DiG 8.3  @a.gtld-servers.net www.united.com
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;  www.united.com, type = A, class = IN
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
united.com. 2D IN NSDC1LBS1.ULS-PROD.com.
united.com. 2D IN NSDC2LBS1.ULS-PROD.com.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
DC1LBS1.ULS-PROD.com.   2D IN A 64.95.89.4
DC2LBS1.ULS-PROD.com.   2D IN A 64.95.88.4
;; Total query time: 104 msec
;; FROM: emily.isdn.uiuc.edu to SERVER: a.gtld-servers.net  192.5.6.30
;; WHEN: Sun Feb 23 23:37:35 2003
;; MSG SIZE  sent: 32  rcvd: 117
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home 4% dig @DC1LBS1.ULS-PROD.com. www.united.com. any

;  DiG 8.3  @DC1LBS1.ULS-PROD.com. www.united.com. any
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 4
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;  www.united.com, type = ANY, class = IN
;; Total query time: 55 msec
;; FROM: emily.isdn.uiuc.edu to SERVER: DC1LBS1.ULS-PROD.com.  64.95.89.4
;; WHEN: Sun Feb 23 23:37:57 2003
;; MSG SIZE  sent: 32  rcvd: 32
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home 5% dig @DC2LBS1.ULS-PROD.com. www.united.com. any

;  DiG 8.3  @DC2LBS1.ULS-PROD.com. www.united.com. any
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 4
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;  www.united.com, type = ANY, class = IN
;; Total query time: 72 msec
;; FROM: emily.isdn.uiuc.edu to SERVER: DC2LBS1.ULS-PROD.com.  64.95.88.4
;; WHEN: Sun Feb 23 23:38:32 2003
;; MSG SIZE  sent: 32  rcvd: 32
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home 6%


Re: untied (fwd)

2003-02-23 Thread Christopher L. Morrow

fwd per request...

(I'm not sure how to contact united, though I'd guess PNAP/InterNap might
know, since I see the fictional www.united.com through there)

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:36:00 +0900
From: Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Christopher L. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: untied

bingo!!

so, please post to nanog

and if you know how to get to untied, ...

 So, looks like:

 dig www.united.com

 returns:

  dig www.united.com

 ;  DiG 8.1  www.united.com
 ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
 ;; got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6
 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
 ;; QUERY SECTION:
 ;;  www.united.com, type = A, class = IN

 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 www.united.com. 5S IN A 64.95.89.8

 ;; Total query time: 32 msec
 ;; FROM: sharpie.argfrp.us.uu.net to SERVER: default -- 153.39.56.91
 ;; WHEN: Mon Feb 24 05:22:35 2003
 ;; MSG SIZE  sent: 32  rcvd: 48

 then:

  dig www.united.com

 ;  DiG 8.1  www.united.com
 ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
 ;; got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6
 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 13, ADDITIONAL: 13
 ;; QUERY SECTION:
 ;;  www.united.com, type = A, class = IN

 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 www.united.com. 4S IN A 64.95.89.8

 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 COM.1d20h32m39s IN NS  A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
 COM.1d20h32m39s IN NS  G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
 COM.1d20h32m39s IN NS  H.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
 COM.1d20h32m39s IN NS  C.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
 COM.1d20h32m39s IN NS  I.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
 COM.1d20h32m39s IN NS  B.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
 COM.1d20h32m39s IN NS  D.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
 COM.1d20h32m39s IN NS  L.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
 COM.1d20h32m39s IN NS  F.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
 COM.1d20h32m39s IN NS  J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
 COM.1d20h32m39s IN NS  K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
 COM.1d20h32m39s IN NS  E.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
 COM.1d20h32m39s IN NS  M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.

 ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
 A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 4d20h43m26s IN A  192.5.6.30
 G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 21h40m30s IN A  192.42.93.30
 H.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 21h40m30s IN A  192.54.112.30
 C.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 21h40m30s IN A  192.26.92.30
 I.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 21h40m30s IN A  192.43.172.30
 B.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 21h11m25s IN A  192.33.14.30
 D.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 21h31m38s IN A  192.31.80.30
 L.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 5h52m10s IN A   192.41.162.30
 F.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 21h40m30s IN A  192.35.51.30
 J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 7h42m59s IN A   192.48.79.30
 K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 7h43m IN A  192.52.178.30
 E.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 10h26m34s IN A  192.12.94.30
 M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 23h34m11s IN A  192.55.83.30

 ;; Total query time: 10 msec
 ;; FROM: sharpie.argfrp.us.uu.net to SERVER: default -- 153.39.56.91
 ;; WHEN: Mon Feb 24 05:22:36 2003
 ;; MSG SIZE  sent: 32  rcvd: 483


 and that repeats over and over and over... HOWEVER,

  dig NS united.com

 ;  DiG 8.1  NS united.com
 ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
 ;; got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6
 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 2
 ;; QUERY SECTION:
 ;;  united.com, type = NS, class = IN

 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 united.com. 23h59m52s IN NS  dns01.uls-prod.com.
 united.com. 23h59m52s IN NS  dns02.uls-prod.com.

 ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
 dns01.uls-prod.com. 1d11h2m40s IN A  64.95.89.200
 dns02.uls-prod.com. 1d11h2m40s IN A  64.95.88.200

 ;; Total query time: 1 msec
 ;; FROM: sharpie.argfrp.us.uu.net to SERVER: default -- 153.39.56.91
 ;; WHEN: Mon Feb 24 05:22:51 2003
 ;; MSG SIZE  sent: 28  rcvd: 112

 and then querying from one of them direct gets:

 timeouts for: 64.95.89.200 and 64.95.88.200

 So, their DNS is busted it seems :( bummer for them. (or was this not what
 you were seeing?)



 --Chris
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 On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Randy Bush wrote:

 
  could someone else please check the dns for www.united.com?  the servers
  for united.com seem to delegate www.united.com, but the delegatee seems
  not to return an soa.  i get very confusing results.
 
  randy, feeling stoopid
 




Re: untied

2003-02-23 Thread Allan Liska

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Hello Randy,

Monday, February 24, 2003, 12:03:30 AM, you wrote:

RB could someone else please check the dns for www.united.com?  the servers
RB for united.com seem to delegate www.united.com, but the delegatee seems
RB not to return an soa.  i get very confusing results.

This is just a guess, but it appears that the two servers
authoritative for www.united.com are load balancers:

dc1lbs1.uls-prod.com
dc2lbs1.uls-prod.com

And it looks like you are correct:

vbind.com /home/allan#dig @dc1lbs1.uls-prod.com www.united.com SOA

;  DiG 9.2.1  @dc1lbs1.uls-prod.com www.united.com SOA
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 168
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.united.com.IN  SOA

;; Query time: 37 msec
;; SERVER: 64.95.89.4#53(dc1lbs1.uls-prod.com)
;; WHEN: Mon Feb 24 00:52:08 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 32


But that may be intentional...


allan
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Re: untied

2003-02-23 Thread Randy Bush

ross?  lazarus arises!  wow!

 could someone else please check the dns for www.united.com?
 Doesn't look good...

they seem to be making similar messes with ual.com, ua2go, ...
and all the stuff that links from their pages.

but it probably 'works' if your host is not dual stack, could you
please confirm?

it's a plot to keep me from getting a reservation to ietf!

randy

ps: really nice to know you're still out there hackin'



Re: untied

2003-02-23 Thread Richard A Steenbergen

On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 02:46:44PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote:
 
 ross?  lazarus arises!  wow!
 
  could someone else please check the dns for www.united.com?
  Doesn't look good...
 
 they seem to be making similar messes with ual.com, ua2go, ...
 and all the stuff that links from their pages.

Just so United doesn't feel bad, www.aol.com also fails in a dual stack 
environment.

-- 
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