RE: NOC contact for he.net

2003-07-02 Thread Mike Leber


The correct phone number for the he.net NOC is 510 580 4100.

I'll make sure where ever that 408 (very old) number shows up is updated.

On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Todd Mitchell - lists wrote:
> (408) 282-1540 - noc@
> 
> | -Original Message-
> | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of
> | Roy
> | Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:18 AM
> | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | Subject: NOC contact for he.net
> | 
> | 
> | I have lost my copy of the contact list for the NOCs.  Can someone
> | supply the contact ingo for he.net?
> | 
> 
> 

+- H U R R I C A N E - E L E C T R I C -+
| Mike Leber   Direct Internet Connections   Voice 510 580 4100 |
| Hurricane Electric Web Hosting  Colocation   Fax 510 580 4151 |
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.he.net |
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Re: NOC contact for he.net

2003-07-02 Thread Mike Leber


On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Roy wrote:
> I have lost my copy of the contact list for the NOCs.  Can someone 
> supply the contact ingo for he.net?

Please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] to contact the he.net NOC.

Mike.

+- H U R R I C A N E - E L E C T R I C -+
| Mike Leber   Direct Internet Connections   Voice 510 580 4100 |
| Hurricane Electric Web Hosting  Colocation   Fax 510 580 4151 |
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.he.net |
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RE: NOC contact for he.net

2003-07-02 Thread Todd Mitchell - lists

(408) 282-1540 - noc@

| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
| Roy
| Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:18 AM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: NOC contact for he.net
| 
| 
| I have lost my copy of the contact list for the NOCs.  Can someone
| supply the contact ingo for he.net?
| 




NOC contact for he.net

2003-07-02 Thread Roy
I have lost my copy of the contact list for the NOCs.  Can someone 
supply the contact ingo for he.net?



Re: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-07-02 Thread Rob Thomas

Hi, NANOGers.

] Oh, joy -- more spam instead of telemarketers.

UGH.  This of course requires more hosts sending spam, which in turn
raises the value of a compromised host or router.

Thanks,
Rob.
-- 
Rob Thomas
http://www.cymru.com
ASSERT(coffee != empty);




Re: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-07-02 Thread Vadim Antonov


On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:

> Oh, joy -- more spam instead of telemarketers.

Joy, actually, since e-mail is not prone to giving unsolicited wake-up
calls to those of us who live graveyard shift.

--vadim



Re: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-07-02 Thread Steven M. Bellovin

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Stephen Sprun
k" writes:
>
>Thus spake "Tomas Daniska" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> A: No. Placing your number on the National Do Not Call Registry will stop
>most, but not all, telemarketing calls. Some businesses are exempt from the
>national registry and still can call you even if you place your number on
>it. Exempt businesses include:
>>
>> long-distance phone companies
>> airlines
>> banks and credit unions; and
>> the business of insurance, to the extent that it is regulated by state
>law.
>> ... political organizations, charities, telephone surveyors or ...
>
>Nearly every call I get today is by companies on the 'exempt' list, go
>figure.
>

Oh, it might get worse -- here's the first paragraph of a Wall Street 
Journal story:

NEW YORK -- With millions of people signing up to stop
receiving pesky sales calls, the nation's biggest marketers
are preparing a new round of potentially annoying advertising
pitches via e-mail and direct mail.

Oh, joy -- more spam instead of telemarketers.

--Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb (me)
http://www.wilyhacker.com (2nd edition of "Firewalls" book)




Re: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-07-02 Thread Stephen Sprunk

Thus spake "Tomas Daniska" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> A: No. Placing your number on the National Do Not Call Registry will stop
most, but not all, telemarketing calls. Some businesses are exempt from the
national registry and still can call you even if you place your number on
it. Exempt businesses include:
>
> long-distance phone companies
> airlines
> banks and credit unions; and
> the business of insurance, to the extent that it is regulated by state
law.
> ... political organizations, charities, telephone surveyors or ...

Nearly every call I get today is by companies on the 'exempt' list, go
figure.

S



RE: Newbie network upgrade question, apologies in advance to NANOG

2003-07-02 Thread Andy Dills

On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Vandy Hamidi wrote:

>
> I would agree only under certain limited situations. Per packet load
> balancing COULD increase jitter, and if you're running VOIP (or similar
> protocols) could degrade performance.  It could also affect TCP
> performance (on OSes not SACK enabled) as well. This would only really
> happen if you're T1's are near capacity (~above 80% or so).  Near when
> queues start causing noticeable delays.
>
> If were talking about 2 identically configured T1's, on the same router,
> through the same loop provider, connected to one ISP--I highly doubt a
> situation where packet reordering would arise.  It's not impossible, but
> unlikely as all the circuits would be utilized the same, thus queue
> delays should be similar across the board.
>
> I've done this on a private network with 4 T1's and never had a problem.
> We were pushing 100GB database dumps across it and performance did
> quadruple over the single T1.

Yes, but the original poster was dealing with DS3s connected to different
NAPs, which is why the packet out-of-order issue can be significant.

Andy

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Andy Dills
Xecunet, Inc.
www.xecu.net
301-682-9972
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RE: Newbie network upgrade question, apologies in advance to NANOG

2003-07-02 Thread Vandy Hamidi

I would agree only under certain limited situations.
Per packet load balancing COULD increase jitter, and if you're running VOIP (or 
similar protocols) could degrade performance.  It could also affect TCP performance 
(on OSes not SACK enabled) as well.
This would only really happen if you're T1's are near capacity (~above 80% or so).  
Near when queues start causing noticeable delays.

If were talking about 2 identically configured T1's, on the same router, through the 
same loop provider, connected to one ISP--I highly doubt a situation where packet 
reordering would arise.  It's not impossible, but unlikely as all the circuits would 
be utilized the same, thus queue delays should be similar across the board.

I've done this on a private network with 4 T1's and never had a problem.  We were 
pushing 100GB database dumps across it and performance did quadruple over the single 
T1.


-=Vandy=-

-Original Message-
From: prue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 1:21 PM
To: Vandy Hamidi
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Newbie network upgrade question, apologies in advance to
NANOG


Vandy,

>Also, you may want to set your border router (the one with the serials to your 
>ISP) to route "per packet" as opposed to allowing the routes to cache.  This 
>will distribute the bandwidtch evenly across your T1's.  If you don't, then a 
>single high traffic session or destination can consume an uneven amount of 
>bandwidth on one of your lines.  You can ask your ISP to do this as well for 
>incoming packets.

That is not such a good idea generally.  If you do this then you get packet 
reordering.  This can be detrimental to TCP performance.

Walt



Re: AS-Tree Utility

2003-07-02 Thread Russ Haynal


These online tools provide visually interesting AS-related maps:
  Graphical AS Matrix:
http://www.netlantis.org/index.html?menu=2&page=sagm
  Graphical AS Path:
http://www.netlantis.org/index.php?menu=2&page=gasp
  Jasvpi (Java Autonomous System Path visualization):
 http://lab.verat.net/Jaspvi/
At 01:16 PM 6/27/2003 -0500, Malayter, Christopher wrote:
I'm curious if anyone could point me to a utility for AS-Tree mapping from a
routing table output?  I searched the archive a bit, and didn't find
anything.
Thanks ahead!
-Chris/AS4181


_
 Russ Haynal - Internet Instructor, Speaker and Paradigm Shaker
 "Helping organizations gain the most benefit from the Internet"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://navigators.com 703-729-1757


Re: Sources for cheap/used lan testing equipment?

2003-07-02 Thread Andy Dills

On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Stephen Milton wrote:

>
> Checked ebay, and there wasn't much available.
>
> Need something for 10/100 ethernet cable testing, as well as
> diagnostics.  Like Fluke LanMeter 685 or such.

I'd doubt there is much of a market for that...

The people who have them find far more value in them than what they could
get selling them used, and this is probably one of the first items to
disappear out the back door in an employee's backpack from companies in
bankruptcy...

And they're not very common to begin with. A friend of mine has
one...which he kept when his company laid him off.

Good luck,
Andy

---
Andy Dills
Xecunet, Inc.
www.xecu.net
301-682-9972
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Sources for cheap/used lan testing equipment?

2003-07-02 Thread Stephen Milton

Checked ebay, and there wasn't much available.

Need something for 10/100 ethernet cable testing, as well as
diagnostics.  Like Fluke LanMeter 685 or such.

TIA.

Steve Milton
ISOMEDIA.COM


RE: Newbie network upgrade question, apologies in advance to NANOG

2003-07-02 Thread Vandy Hamidi

Also, you may want to set your border router (the one with the serials to your ISP) to 
route "per packet" as opposed to allowing the routes to cache.  This will distribute 
the bandwidtch evenly across your T1's.  If you don't, then a single high traffic 
session or destination can consume an uneven amount of bandwidth on one of your lines. 
 You can ask your ISP to do this as well for incoming packets.

-=Vandy=-

-Original Message-
From: Andy Dills [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 3:02 PM
To: Mary Grace
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newbie network upgrade question, apologies in advance to
NANOG



On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Mary Grace wrote:

> So, is it still true that we do not need anything more powerful than a 4500
> or 4700 to run this system?  I believe that is true if we take default
> routes advertised by the upstream on both sides, and the two diverse-path
> circuits ARE being advertised out of the same upstream AS, but is it still
> true if we were nuts enough to want to take full routes anyway from this
> same provider?

If you're multihomed to the same provider, I wouldn't even bother with
getting an ASN and running BGP at all.

I assume they are providing your IP space as well...if so, let them
announce the route, and let their internal routing policy decide which
circuit delivers the bits to you.

Then, just configure two static default routes, to the two serial ports of
your upstream. In this scenario, you're current router should be fine.
Buy your router used, you're wasting your money otherwise.

To answer your question directly, there is essentially no benefit to
taking full routes from your provider from each location.

Andy

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Andy Dills
Xecunet, Inc.
www.xecu.net
301-682-9972
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bellsouth.net postmaster.

2003-07-02 Thread micah mcnelly



Does anyone have a direct phone # for the 
bellsouth.net postmaster dept?  Please reply off list before I go 
postal.  I have sent 10 emails to them within the last week without any 
ticket generation or response.  ?!?!?!?!
 
/micah
 


RE: Charter Communications R.whois?

2003-07-02 Thread Mike Damm
Title: Charter Communications R.whois?









http://abuse.charter.net/



 

Best to use the web form. No matter who I call, no one can find an
actual working number for an abuse department.

 

Or as a last resort... http://puck.nether.net/netops/nocs.cgi?ispname=Charter

 

  -Mike

 

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Michael Damm, MIS Department, Irwin Research & Development

V: 509.457.5080
x298 F: 509.577.0301 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 

-Original Message-
From: McBurnett, Jim
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003
6:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Charter Communications
R.whois?

 

Hello all, 
I am
trying to get some SWIP data on a charter customer, for an ABUSE issue.

Charter's
Abuse group is either non-existant or does not care... 

Does anyone have any information, they can pass to
me? 

Thanks, 
Jim









Charter Communications R.whois?

2003-07-02 Thread McBurnett, Jim
Title: Charter Communications R.whois?






Hello all,

I am trying to get some SWIP data on a charter customer, for an ABUSE issue.

Charter's Abuse group is either non-existant or does not care...


Does anyone have any information, they can pass to me?


Thanks,

Jim