Re: looking for Slammer infectee access link speeds

2004-05-02 Thread Deepak Jain

With colleagues I'm working on Internet-scale modeling of Slammer's 
behavior.
Its spreading dynamics significantly differed from those of most worms,
an effect we're pretty sure is related to the fact that unlike most 
worms,
an infected host's scanning often clogged the host's access link.

I think a more interesting aspect of this particular worm is that it 
only takes a single packet to infect a vulnerable host. As far as I know 
no other worm can do this. The effect is that even packets to broadcast 
or multicast address have the potential to infect.

I think this is really the most important point. Link speeds and such 
are not as significant, maximum packet rates probably are. The 
compromised servers didn't need to wait for confirmation of the packets 
they spit out, and since a high percentage of the packets between 
normal levels of traffic and pipe speed [until pipe speed was 
reached] you get a very high infection rate in moments.

Every other virus had to do a long more talking, was a lot more 
dependent on reciprocal communication.

It might be interesting to model how many pps infected machines would 
have to spit out to infect 100% of the Internet in a certain about of time.

Deepak Jain
AiNET


Re: looking for Slammer infectee access link speeds

2004-05-02 Thread vern

[resending from my NANOG-posting address, sigh]

 I think a more interesting aspect of this particular worm is that it 
 only takes a single packet to infect a vulnerable host. As far as I 
 know no other worm can do this.

That was true prior to the March Witty worm.

 The effect is that even packets to 
 broadcast or multicast address have the potential to infect.

It depends on the specifics of the server being exploited.  (In Witty's
case, it was passive infection!)

 I can tell you some stuff about AS12854.

Thanks!, I'll send you the list off-list.

Vern


Worms versus Bots

2004-05-02 Thread Sean Donelan

The antivirus vendors are bemoaning the fact the Sasser worm has been
slow to spread.  On the other hand, most of the vulnerable computers
seem to have already been taken over by one or more Bots days or weeks
before the worms arrived.

Other than the obvious, don't let a bot on get on your computer in
the first place, are there any opinions about the best anti-bot tools
for naive computer users?  The major virus vendors seem to be having
a bit of trouble dealing with bots, frequently recommending  manual
editing of files and use of regedit.  There is also a much longer
delay between the apperance of a new bot and updates to antivirus
packages.




Re: Mexico City Internet Bandwidth suggestions

2004-05-02 Thread Brian Moore

Paul,

 If we were to take a rough poll,
 which one of the two, Alestra or Avantel, would get the prize for
 highest uptime/availability?

Sorry for the delay.  I installed the network as a consultant 3 or so years ago.My 
client's Operations staff have been extremely competent in handling it
since then, so I haven't had to be involved since then.  I've asked them for
their input, and this is their response ...

Alestra has better uptime and is better for national (Mexico) routes.
Avantel has better international (especially USA) routes.

Hope that helps,

Brian