Re: SendGate: Sendmail Multiple Vulnerabilities (Race Condition DoS, Memory Jumps, Integer Overflow)

2006-03-26 Thread Martin Hannigan



On Sat, 25 Mar 2006, Gadi Evron wrote:


 Brandon Butterworth wrote:
 > > There are two exploit code samples I saw. There are two remote exploits
 > > for one of them so far that are public that I know of.
 >
 > Please provide reference URLs or the code, if not then stop spreading FUD.

 No.
 Talk to you after the first worm.



Hopefully we're not talking about blackworm.




That's just about as good of a statement as a demand for a phallus size
check.  If you can't back up claims, it is FUD by definition.  So, just like
BB wrote above:


 > [...] stop spreading FUD.



Gents, killfiles. This is not the only forum where this particular
topic has been questioned as nothing more than common.


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Re: FUD and exploit code [was: Re: SendGate: Sendmail Multiple Vulnerabilities]

2006-03-26 Thread Matt Ghali


On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Gadi Evron wrote:


Okay, if you insist we talk of exploits here, I take back the "talk after
the first worm".


So you really are admitting that you were simply spreading more 
self-aggrandizing FUD?


You may not stick to your promises, but at least you are honest 
about when you are lying.


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Re: my favorite DR story

2006-03-26 Thread Chris Owen


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On Mar 26, 2006, at 6:21 AM, neal rauhauser wrote:

 They had no off site backup of any of their data and there was no  
configuration information on their network beyond my recall of what  
I'd help install two years before the tornado. This is certainly a  
testament to the value of clean livin', but I sure wouldn't  
recommend that as a DR strategy.


This is still my favorite tornado/network related item:

http://home.hubris.net/owenc/tornado/

Back in the early days I was out of the town for I think one of the  
first times ever after starting the business (at ISPC maybe?).  I  
logged on to see a huge drop in the number of people dailed up at a  
time when it should have been going up.  I was a bit freaked out when  
I noticed at the same time the temperature had fallen 40 degrees in  
about 20 minutes.  A quick call home let me connect the dots.


Chris

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Re: SendGate: Sendmail Multiple Vulnerabilities (Race Condition DoS, Memory Jumps, Integer Overflow)

2006-03-26 Thread Todd Vierling

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006, Gadi Evron wrote:

> Brandon Butterworth wrote:
> > > There are two exploit code samples I saw. There are two remote exploits
> > > for one of them so far that are public that I know of.
> >
> > Please provide reference URLs or the code, if not then stop spreading FUD.
>
> No.
> Talk to you after the first worm.

That's just about as good of a statement as a demand for a phallus size
check.  If you can't back up claims, it is FUD by definition.  So, just like
BB wrote above:

> > [...] stop spreading FUD.

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Re: Fire in bakery fries fiber optic cable

2006-03-26 Thread Sean Donelan

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Mark Smith wrote:
> A few years back there was a photo floating around of a fibre that had
> been destroyed by a stray bullet. Does anybody know of it, or have a
> copy ?

This is more common in some areas of the country than other areas.
Shooters will take potshots at microwave towers, cables of all
types on utility poles, and even the occasional electrical transformer.
The shot itself may not cause an immediate outage, but the hole lets
rain in causing an outage later.  They also shoot stop signs, mailboxes
and just about everything else.



my favorite DR story

2006-03-26 Thread neal rauhauser




http://www.flickr.com/photos/avyakata/67337020/


  This is Manion's Auction House in Kansas City, Kansas. The photo was 
taken the day after an F3 tornado went over the top of the site. The 
smooth, gray rectangle just below the trailer is not parking ... that is 
the floor of what used to be a ranch home on property which had been 
hastily tarpapered to protect the basement.


  The tornado took the top floor of the house, which contained about 
twenty PCs, four servers, all of their comm gear, and spread it in a 
thousand yard long debris field.


  Employees turned out and walked the debris field finger tip to finger 
tip, looking for customer consigned property and the contents of their 
office. They found every PC, every server, and every bit of 
communcations equipment. No one thought to take a picture of their Cisco 
3640, which was found under a Catepillar D-7 bulldozer which had been 
rolled two hundred yards by the storm.


 The business owner's house is just to the left of the area covered by 
the photo and it suffered minor damage. Their systems were brought there 
to a room in the basement and the IT guys set to work. Monitors were 
destroyed but every single PC was located and found to be operational. 
They lost one drive in one raid array on their servers but everything 
else was functional. We plugged their 3640, Local Director, and firewall 
back in and had them running again five hours after the storm, and that 
included my three hour drive time from Omaha.



 They had no off site backup of any of their data and there was no 
configuration information on their network beyond my recall of what I'd 
help install two years before the tornado. This is certainly a testament 
to the value of clean livin', but I sure wouldn't recommend that as a DR 
strategy.




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Re: Fire in bakery fries fiber optic cable

2006-03-26 Thread Mark Smith

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:05:49 -0600
neal rauhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
>   The fiber cable hit by bullet was in New Jersey if I'm recalling 
> correctly ... this was maybe four or five years ago. If memory serves 
> (and forty *is* uncomfortably close) this was part of a cable modem plant.
> 

Maybe this one is it. I think it was around 1999, possibly 98, when I saw it.

Thanks,
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Re: Fire in bakery fries fiber optic cable

2006-03-26 Thread neal rauhauser



 The fiber cable hit by bullet was in New Jersey if I'm recalling 
correctly ... this was maybe four or five years ago. If memory serves 
(and forty *is* uncomfortably close) this was part of a cable modem plant.



Mark Smith wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:16:34 -0500
Aaron Gagnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


This one?

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2471255~root=cable,opt~mode=flat



Could be. Keith Woodworth sent me this version of it off list :

http://please.rutgers.edu/show/broadband/fibercable.jpg

I seem to remember it being on some sort of fault report, maybe that is
a copy of the original photo.

Thanks,
Mark.




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