Re: Global Crossing Contact / BGP and SONET interaction question

2006-07-26 Thread Forrest W Christian


Randy Epstein wrote:
I don't have an answer to the root cause of your problem, and I'm not 
looking for a discussion on route dampening (there are enough debates 
onthis issue to make your head spin), but may I suggest you raise your 
hold timers to prevent your BGP sessions from going down on short 
disturbances as these?
From what I can tell the disturbances are less than a second in 
duration.   It doesn't appear that this is a hold-timer issue, although 
I would like GX to set it at something higher than 90 seconds (mine is 
already at a higher value- but the lower value wins during 
negotiation).I really suspect that either a) GX has some semi-weird 
configuration where the SONET ring switching from the normal to the 
protect path and back causes BGP to reset on the border router I'm 
attached to or b) There is a separate issue which is causing BGP to 
flap.  Or of course, something else completely different.


Unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure out how to talk to anyone 
at GX which actually has access to the routers and knows anything about 
BGP.  


-forrest


Re: Eurid suspends more than 74,000 .eu domain names

2006-07-26 Thread Simon Waters

On Tuesday 25 Jul 2006 18:04, Henry Linneweh wrote:

 I think this operationally impact some people
 
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9001972

Anyone else note the irony that the domain names were registered through 
domainsbyproxy.com so he is complaining about his own customers.

People willing to put up with Eurid burocracy three times over deserve all the 
domain names their own money can buy.


Re: Eurid suspends more than 74,000 .eu domain names

2006-07-26 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian


On 7/26/06, Simon Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9001972

Anyone else note the irony that the domain names were registered through
domainsbyproxy.com so he is complaining about his own customers.


Well ok - if his service gets abused he has every right to complain
about that, and to help turf them as and when they turn up.

He's got sound views on domain kiting, that man ..

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Re: Global Crossing Contact / BGP and SONET interaction question

2006-07-26 Thread Niels Bakker


* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randy Epstein) [Wed 26 Jul 2006, 07:44 CEST]:
Recently my BGP session has started flapping on the GX circuit... It 
looks something like this:


Jul 21 21:33:32.703 UTC: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 67.17.168.73 Up

There are no other log entries during the periods when this occur. 
Unfortunately this causes enough prefix flaps that any prefixes which 
are preferred through GX are damped for like a half hour by certain 
providers as my BGP routes get added/withdrawn through the GX link.
I don't have an answer to the root cause of your problem, and I'm not 
looking for a discussion on route dampening (there are enough debates on 
this issue to make your head spin), but may I suggest you raise your 
hold timers to prevent your BGP sessions from going down on short 
disturbances as these?


Wrong error condition - hold timer isn't triggered when the interface 
for a directly connected neighbor goes down.


You'll want Global Crossing to configure a hold-timer on their Juniper 
or a carrier-delay on their Cisco router.  Or configure no bgp 
fast-external-fallover but that has more side effects.



-- Niels.


Re: Global Crossing Contact / BGP and SONET interaction question

2006-07-26 Thread Ian Mason



On 26 Jul 2006, at 08:29, Forrest W Christian wrote:



Randy Epstein wrote:
I don't have an answer to the root cause of your problem, and I'm  
not looking for a discussion on route dampening (there are enough  
debates onthis issue to make your head spin), but may I suggest  
you raise your hold timers to prevent your BGP sessions from going  
down on short disturbances as these?
From what I can tell the disturbances are less than a second in  
duration.   It doesn't appear that this is a hold-timer issue,  
although I would like GX to set it at something higher than 90  
seconds (mine is already at a higher value- but the lower value  
wins during negotiation).I really suspect that either a) GX has  
some semi-weird configuration where the SONET ring switching from  
the normal to the protect path and back causes BGP to reset on the  
border router I'm attached to or b) There is a separate issue which  
is causing BGP to flap.  Or of course, something else completely  
different.


Unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure out how to talk to  
anyone at GX which actually has access to the routers and knows  
anything about BGP.

-forrest


The timing of protection switching on a SONET ring is of completely  
the wrong order to upset a BGP session. From memory there's a  
designed in upper bound of 200 mS from fault to fully restored with  
typical values being more like 50 mS.


One possibility that occurs to me is that the A end here might be  
using a router with a SONET card, and the router software is  
propagating a SONET event through the stack causing BGP to react to  
an event it wouldn't even see on a physically separate SONET ADM.  
That is pure speculation though.





RE: Global Crossing Contact / BGP and SONET interaction question

2006-07-26 Thread Neil J. McRae

You should be able to tell from (cisco speak) 

show controller pos a/b

The counters should be increasing if there are any issues with the line
or the path

Make sure both ends sync from the line (as it's a syncronous link).

A path switch event with won't impact BGP, if it did the entire internet
would be a constant
flap. Typically path switches are 50ms in the metro and not much longer
on long distance 
(or is done at the optical layer). It also could be that the protection
may need to be
uni-directional.

Make sure you set scramble on the link as some multiplexers still have
inband
traffic signal issues that IP traffic can trigger.

Regards,
Neil.



RE: Hot weather and power outages continue

2006-07-26 Thread david raistrick


On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, William S. Duncanson wrote:


Suprisingly, my cable TV goes out as well when the power goes, so it might
just be more than the CMTS that's going out.


It's your neighborhood distribution amp going out, or possibly a smaller 
amp between the neighborhood amp and your house (...or even one at your 
house...).


With the Digital Phone and similar rollouts, though, they've gotten better 
about putting battery backups on at least the neighborhood amps...they 
realized it was pointless to put batteries in the MTA if they don't put 
them on the amps..;)


...d

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Yahoo contact for dns issue

2006-07-26 Thread Paul - Neoverve


Hello,

Does anyone have a contact at Yahoo that could help with a dns issue on 
Yahoo's end?


I'm getting no where with thir Technical Support number.

TIA

--
Paul Norton
Server Support
neoverve

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760.744.7845
800.500.6580
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