Re: [Fwd: Important ICANN Notice Regarding Your Domain Name(s)]

2006-10-07 Thread Matt Ghali


On Fri, 6 Oct 2006, Chris Adams wrote:


Heh.  We had an IP (of a customer's mail server) that GoDaddy blocked.
They told us it had been blocked for something like 8 months (at which
time it had not been assigned to any customer); we had zero complaints
on record for that IP.  They couldn't tell us why it was blocked or how
to get the block removed.  When we asked to speak with a supervisor,
they told us that their supervisors didn't have phones.



I must be dumb, but how does a registrar 'block an ip' in a manner 
that affects anyone but themselves?



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  Moral indignation is a technique to endow the idiot with dignity.
- Marshall McLuhan


Re: ICANN ordered by Illinois court to suspend spamhaus.org

2006-10-07 Thread Steve Linford


On 7 Oct 2006, at 06:33, Gadi Evron wrote:

Information about this court ruling can be found on Spamhaus.s web  
site,

here:
http://www.spamhaus.org/archive/legal/e360/kocoras_order_6_10.pdf


While it's OK to discuss the issue of a U.S. court ordering ICANN to  
suspend domains of foreign organizations, please would NANOG refrain  
from threads making legal assumptions based on this particular case  
or comments otherwise giving the spammers ideas on how to get better  
orders from U.S. courts.


Spamhaus responded to the initial lawsuit and judgement here:
http://www.spamhaus.org/legal/answer.lasso?ref=3

  Steve Linford
  The Spamhaus Project
  http://www.spamhaus.org





Re: ICANN ordered by Illinois court to suspend spamhaus.org

2006-10-07 Thread Gadi Evron

This is a really good perspective on the subject, from an Illinois bar
lawyer:
http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/664

On Fri, 6 Oct 2006, Gadi Evron wrote:

> Information about this court ruling can be found on Spamhaus.s web site,
> here:
> http://www.spamhaus.org/archive/legal/e360/kocoras_order_6_10.pdf
> 
> Apparently, at this stage, it is only a proposed ruling. But I am no
> lawyer.
> 
>   Gadi.
> 
> 
> 



Re: [Fwd: Important ICANN Notice Regarding Your Domain Name(s)]

2006-10-07 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian


On 10/7/06, Matt Ghali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I must be dumb, but how does a registrar 'block an ip' in a manner
that affects anyone but themselves?



Godaddy also hosts a sizeable number of vanity domains registered with them
If you register with them you have the option of also buying NS, mail
and webhosting

--
Suresh Ramasubramanian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


RE: ICANN ordered by Illinois court to suspend spamhaus.org

2006-10-07 Thread Barry J. Featherstone

On 07 October 2006 12:02 Steve Linford wrote:

While it's OK to discuss the issue of a U.S. court ordering ICANN to suspend
domains of foreign organizations, please would NANOG refrain from threads
making legal assumptions based on this particular case or comments otherwise
giving the spammers ideas on how to get better orders from U.S. courts.

IMHO at this point the subject is off-topic, especially given the way some
members of this forum continually seek to give unqaulified legal advice.

Yes, the FINAL ruling will presumably have legal impications for both
spamhaus and ISP's who use their lists, BUT, until all litigation in this
case is settled, speculation and comment will NOT help. 

Pesonally speaking I know which I would prefer.. To see Spamahaus continue
its effective and much needed work in helping to limit the impact of major
spam sources.

Barry.
Director
Euhosts.net

http://www.euhosts.net



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HostRocket contact

2006-10-07 Thread Florian Weimer

Has anybody got a working HostRocket contact?  They (or their
customers) seem to have a larger security incident. 8-(

Alternatively, someone at Time Warner Telecom who can get in touch
with them would be helpful.


Re: ICANN ordered by Illinois court to suspend spamhaus.org

2006-10-07 Thread Thomas Leavitt

Here's an excerpt from the blog entry:

"Instead of badmouthing the judge, what I would imagine is far more
productive are letters from ISPs around the world attesting to the
importance of Spamhaus as an organization and emphasizing how it is
the individual ISP, not Spamhaus, making the affirmative choice to
stop e360s messages from entering your servers and your property."

The author also says:

"Maybe counsel for one of the larger ISPs would be willing to act as a
clearinghouse and file the letters, en masse, with the court."

I hope folks take these comments to heart.

I posted my own experience to the blog.

I encourage others to do so.

Thomas

Gadi Evron wrote:
> This is a really good perspective on the subject, from an Illinois bar
> lawyer:
> http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/664
>
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2006, Gadi Evron wrote:
>
>   
>> Information about this court ruling can be found on Spamhaus.s web site,
>> here:
>> http://www.spamhaus.org/archive/legal/e360/kocoras_order_6_10.pdf
>>
>> Apparently, at this stage, it is only a proposed ruling. But I am no
>> lawyer.
>>
>>  Gadi.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
>