Re: ICANN registrar supporting v6 glue?

2007-06-30 Thread James Cloos

 Barrett == Barrett Lyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Barrett Apparently GoDaddy does not support v6 glue for their customers,
Barrett who does?

I know that gkg.net does.

And entering them is via the same web form as v4 addresses.

-JimC
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Re: The Choice: IPv4 Exhaustion or Transition to IPv6

2007-06-30 Thread Mark Andrews

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
John Curran wrote:
 Steve -
  
 For the first end site that has to connect via IPv6,
 it will be very bad if there is not a base of IPv6
 web/email sites already in place.

As the network administrator for a Web hosting company, I've not seen 
any coherent (and useful) information about how I can provide both IPv6 
addressing and IPv4 addressing for the sites I host.  I'm in the process 
of doing OS upgrades, and IPv6 is included...but currently I shut off 
IPv6 because I don't have a IPv6 firewall solution yet.

Well there are lots of firewalls that support IPv6.  If you can't
find one you really have not searched.

That includes DNS, by the way.  I'm deploying new DNS servers, and would 
be *very* interested in how to convince BIND 9.2.4 to answer IPv6 queries.

listen-on-v6 { any; };

If you want finer acls than that in listen-on-v6 then you want
BIND 9.3 (currently 9.3.4) or BIND 9.4 (currently 9.4.1).

Another issue:  the Plesk Web control panel software from SW-Soft 
doesn't seem to have any support for IPv6.  The CPanel Web Host Manager 
at least lets me create  records in zone files, so roughly 1/3 of my 
customers *could* have IPv6 capability.

Lurkers:  tutorials welcome.


Re: ICANN registrar supporting v6 glue?

2007-06-30 Thread Mark Andrews

Barrett Lyon wrote:
=20
 Apparently GoDaddy does not support v6 glue for their customers, who
 does?  I don't think requiring dual-stack v6 users perform v4 queries t=
o
 find  records is all that great.

At least eNom does.

There are a few others but it tends to be that you have to raise a
support ticket to actually get the records in, most webinterfaces don't
support it yet unfortunately.

One note here is that even though you can get glue into com/net/org
using this method, there is no IPv6 glue for the root yet, as such even
if you manage to get the IPv6 glue in, it won't accomplish much (except
sending all IPv6 capable resolvers over IPv6 transport :) as all
resolvers will still require IPv4 to reach the root. One can of course
create their own root hint zone and force bind, or other dns server, to
not fetch the hints from the real root, but that doesn't help for the
rest of the planet. (Root alternatives like orsn could fix that up but
apparently their main german box that was doing IPv6 is out of the air)

You don't change the hints you just provide zones that override
B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET, F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET, H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET,
K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET and M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET or just use your
own ROOT-SERVERS.NET zone with the s added in.

In the few couple of years I've only seen two outages with the
IPv6 root instances.  In both cases they were fixed soon after
reporting the outage.

Mark

B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  A   192.228.79.201
B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  2001:478:65::53
F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  A   192.5.5.241
F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  2001:500::1035
H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  A   128.63.2.53
H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  2001:500:1::803f:235
K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  A   193.0.14.129
K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  2001:7fd::1
M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  A   202.12.27.33
M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  2001:dc3::35

Note also that various ccTLD's are able to add glue to your zone on
request (notably .fr/.ch/.nl/.se do so already for quite some time)

Greets,
 Jeroen


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Re: ICANN registrar supporting v6 glue?

2007-06-30 Thread Stephen Wilcox

On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 11:16:40PM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote:
 
 Barrett Lyon wrote:
 =20
  Apparently GoDaddy does not support v6 glue for their customers, who
  does?  I don't think requiring dual-stack v6 users perform v4 queries t=
 o
  find  records is all that great.
 
 At least eNom does.
 
 There are a few others but it tends to be that you have to raise a
 support ticket to actually get the records in, most webinterfaces don't
 support it yet unfortunately.
 
 One note here is that even though you can get glue into com/net/org
 using this method, there is no IPv6 glue for the root yet, as such even
 if you manage to get the IPv6 glue in, it won't accomplish much (except
 sending all IPv6 capable resolvers over IPv6 transport :) as all
 resolvers will still require IPv4 to reach the root. One can of course
 create their own root hint zone and force bind, or other dns server, to
 not fetch the hints from the real root, but that doesn't help for the
 rest of the planet. (Root alternatives like orsn could fix that up but
 apparently their main german box that was doing IPv6 is out of the air)
 
   You don't change the hints you just provide zones that override
   B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET, F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET, H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET,
   K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET and M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET or just use your
   own ROOT-SERVERS.NET zone with the s added in.

I've read your email twice and I dont follow. 

Either you are telling me

a) Provide my own hints with  included (you specifically say thats not what 
you mean tho)

or

b) Serve my own root zone. From a root operator, surely thats not right either 
(I hope!)?

   In the few couple of years I've only seen two outages with the
   IPv6 root instances.  In both cases they were fixed soon after
   reporting the outage.

So there are v6 roots out there? Where are they hiding and why arent they being 
provided in the hints file or NS queries on . ?

Steve

 
 B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  A   192.228.79.201
 B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  2001:478:65::53
 F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  A   192.5.5.241
 F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  2001:500::1035
 H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  A   128.63.2.53
 H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  2001:500:1::803f:235
 K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  A   193.0.14.129
 K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  2001:7fd::1
 M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  A   202.12.27.33
 M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  2001:dc3::35
 
 Note also that various ccTLD's are able to add glue to your zone on
 request (notably .fr/.ch/.nl/.se do so already for quite some time)
 
 Greets,
  Jeroen
 
 
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Re: ICANN registrar supporting v6 glue?

2007-06-30 Thread Jeroen Massar
Stephen Wilcox wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 11:16:40PM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote:
[..]
  You don't change the hints you just provide zones that override
  B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET, F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET, H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET,
  K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET and M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET or just use your
  own ROOT-SERVERS.NET zone with the s added in.
 
 I've read your email twice and I dont follow. 
 
 Either you are telling me

You want option c:

c) Serve your own version of root-servers.net containing 's

This never occurred to me but it indeed is the best way to do it. All
the root-servers have names in root-servers.net, as such just make your
own master zone containing:

B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  A   192.228.79.201
B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  2001:478:65::53
F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  A   192.5.5.241
F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  2001:500::1035
H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  A   128.63.2.53
H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  2001:500:1::803f:235
K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  A   193.0.14.129
K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  2001:7fd::1
M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  A   202.12.27.33
M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600IN  2001:dc3::35

+ optionally the other roots-servers as found on www.root-servers.org

And presto. You don't even have to turn of glue fetch etc, as the above
zone will override the glue then anyway.

Good one Mark, thanks.

Greets,
 Jeroen




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Re: Cable-Tying with Waxed Twine

2007-06-30 Thread Travis H.
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 09:41:22PM -0700, Larry Beaulieu wrote:
 Lacing is a lot slower than using platic ties, and doing it is rough on your 
 fingers.  If you're lucky you know a data tech who can show you how to do it
 properly, it's really not something that you can just describe in writing. 

Sounds like a good use for youtube.
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 death may die. - H.P. Lovecraft, The Call of the Cthulhu
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Re: messy

2007-06-30 Thread Travis H.
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 03:48:18PM -0500, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
 Lucy Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  and hard to read...
  http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf

I had the same reaction at first.

Incidentally, you can get this for cheap from the GPO.

I have it on my wall as reference art.

It came in handy the other day when looking for the possibility of
interference between cell phone and wifi.

 different frequencies of RF have different performance
 characteristics.  unlike ip addresses, a 1 mhz allocation at 180 mhz
 and a 1 mhz allocation at 6.5 ghz are not fungible.

Plus, large installed bases; xceivers for different frequencies
are not always interchangable, even with PLL/xtal changes.

But yeah, any HAM can tell you that different bands do different
things...  some bounce off the ionosphere (shortwave/HF) and some
penetrate walls better than others (low frequencies).  Some are
refracted and diffused by rain, and some aren't, etc.  Heck, some can
be bounced off the moon (it's called moonbounce, but don't expect
anything but morse to be understandable).  I think I read somewhere
that the USS Liberty SIGINT ship had a large dish for this kind of
communication (makes direction-finding fairly difficult).

As a consequence, you find bands for radiolocation (RADAR) and
mobile radio and such spread all over the place.

If you're 300 miles from civilization, and it's raining, and all the
mobile radio bands were in the range ruined by rain, and someone
suffered a life-threatening injury, that would be bad.

There are a lot of lobbyists and vested interests in allocation
fights, but I think that's a smaller factor than the others mentioned
above.
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 death may die. - H.P. Lovecraft, The Call of the Cthulhu
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