Re: An Internet IPv6 Transition Plan

2007-07-29 Thread Petri Helenius


Stephen Wilcox wrote:

Now, if you suddenly charge $2.50/mo to have a public IP or $15/mo for a /28 it 
does become a consideration to the customer as to if they _REALLY_ need it
  

Where would this money go to?

Pete




Re: An Internet IPv6 Transition Plan

2007-07-29 Thread Peter Dambier


Petri Helenius wrote:


Stephen Wilcox wrote:

Now, if you suddenly charge $2.50/mo to have a public IP or $15/mo for 
a /28 it does become a consideration to the customer as to if they 
_REALLY_ need it
  


Where would this money go to?


To ip-squatters.

Get your allocation now and turn it into gold tommorow.

p2p people will be happy if they can get rid of their tunnels.
With rfc 1918 addresses for all there will be no more
filesharing, voip, spam and troyans.

Cheers
Peter and Karin

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Re: An Internet IPv6 Transition Plan

2007-07-29 Thread Stephen Wilcox

On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:50:10AM +0200, Peter Dambier wrote:
 
 Petri Helenius wrote:
 
 Stephen Wilcox wrote:
 
 Now, if you suddenly charge $2.50/mo to have a public IP or $15/mo for 
 a /28 it does become a consideration to the customer as to if they 
 _REALLY_ need it
   
 
 Where would this money go to?

you could subsidise all those v6 rollouts everyone is talking about ;p

seriously, figuring out what to do with some spare money shouldnt be a big 
concern.. if we dont pool it centrally under collective authority then  what 
pete says below will happen:

 To ip-squatters.
 
 Get your allocation now and turn it into gold tommorow.
 
 p2p people will be happy if they can get rid of their tunnels.
 With rfc 1918 addresses for all there will be no more
 filesharing, voip, spam and troyans.

really? because p2p doesnt work behind NAT, and computers behind NAT dont get 
infected?

this is the Internet today and NAT has no effect on the above.

Steve



Re: An Internet IPv6 Transition Plan

2007-07-29 Thread Peter Dambier


Stephen Wilcox wrote:

On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:50:10AM +0200, Peter Dambier wrote:

p2p people will be happy if they can get rid of their tunnels.
With rfc 1918 addresses for all there will be no more
filesharing, voip, spam and troyans.



really? because p2p doesnt work behind NAT, and computers behind NAT dont get 
infected?

this is the Internet today and NAT has no effect on the above.



I am pessimistic. The malware will find its way.

It is port 25 smtp that goes away and takes part of the spam away too.

Ways have been found to drill holes into NAT-routers and firewalls,
but they are working only as long as it is only you who wants to break
out of the NAT. As soon as the mainstream has only left rfc 1918 addresses
p2p will stop.

I see lots of p2p-ers already communicating via IPv6 tunnels.
They are prepared.


Kind regards
Peter and Karin


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94/8, 95/8 allocated to the RIPE NCC

2007-07-29 Thread Leo Vegoda


Hi,

The IANA IPv4 registry has been updated to reflect the allocation of  
two /8 IPv4 blocks to the RIPE NCC in July 2007: 94/8 and 95/8. You  
can find the IANA IPv4 registry at:


http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space

Please update your filters as appropriate.

Regards,

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Leo Vegoda
IANA Numbers Liaison