Re: OT: Vendors Using NANOG for a Sales Channel

2007-10-27 Thread Martin Hannigan

On 10/26/07, Scott Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[ snip ]

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: David Ulevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Often times when I get these (and it's pretty often) I just take their
 email address and add it to my list of people we send out RFQs to.

[..and.. ]

 You obviously haven't had the experiences that some have had with sales folks 
 that use this method.  Some are like the little Chihuahua that won't quit 
 trying to hump your leg.  No matter how many times you tell them you're not 
 going to do it they keep trying.



The AUP that we ( the NANOG MLC) presented to the community at NANOG
41, which seemed to have wide support,  contained a new provision to
deal with this problem.

Hopefully, the steering committee will step up to the plate and approve soon.

-M


RE: OT: Vendors Using NANOG for a Sales Channel

2007-10-27 Thread Sherry Ollins

Just for the purpose of clarification - it was not the NANOG list that our
salesperson was using.  However, because the gentleman who brought it to our
attention cc'd NANOG - we apologized here as well.

Again -- very sorry for the distraction this created.

Kind regards,

Sherry Ollins
Director of Sales  Purchasing
Choice Resale LLC

310.804.3266  Voice
310.943.0427  Fax

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.choiceresale.com

AOL IM:  SherryCHOICE


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Subject: Re: OT: Vendors Using NANOG for a Sales Channel



On 10/26/07, Scott Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[ snip ]

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: David Ulevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Often times when I get these (and it's pretty often) I just take their
 email address and add it to my list of people we send out RFQs to.

[..and.. ]

 You obviously haven't had the experiences that some have had with sales
folks that use this method.  Some are like the little Chihuahua that won't
quit trying to hump your leg.  No matter how many times you tell them
you're not going to do it they keep trying.



The AUP that we ( the NANOG MLC) presented to the community at NANOG
41, which seemed to have wide support,  contained a new provision to
deal with this problem.

Hopefully, the steering committee will step up to the plate and approve
soon.

-M



Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?

2007-10-27 Thread Sean Donelan


On Sat, 27 Oct 2007, Mohacsi Janos wrote:
Agreed. Measures, like NAT, spoofing based accelerators, quarantining 
computers are developed for fairly small networks. No for 1Gbps and above and 
20+ sites/customers.


small is a relative term.  Hong Kong is already selling 1Gbps access
links to residential customers, and once upon a time 56Kbps was a big 
backbone network.


Last month folks were complaining about ISPs letting everything through
the networks, this month people are complaining that ISPs aren't letting
everything through the networks.  Does this mean next month we will be
back the other direction again.

Why artificially keep access link speeds low just to prevent upstream
network congestion?  Why can't you have big access links?




Comcast Contact

2007-10-27 Thread Gary Stanley


Can someone clueful from comcast.net contact me offlist please?

Thank you.
-G