RE: AS 7018 BGP blackhole / ATT contact sought

2007-11-07 Thread michael.dillon

  I am sorry to hear you have encountered difficulties Nathan.  Your 
  request will be forward to team members within ATT today for 
  assistance.
 
 Thanks, Ren.  I will wait to hear from one of these team 
 members you referred to.

I went to http://puck.nether.net/netops/ and tried to search for ATT.

Nothing.

Then I tried AT and I got a list that included 4 entries for ATT. I
wonder whether those ATT entries are up to date and whether someone is
planning to update them, if not.

Also, a suggestion for Jared. Perhaps you could drop the search
function, which clearly is inferior to Ctrl-F in my browser, and just
provide a bunch of links for all possible first letters of the names in
your database.

--Michael Dillon


Re: Friendly XO Mail-operational contact ?

2007-11-07 Thread Andy Davidson



On 7 Nov 2007, at 12:50, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:


You sure XO hasn't been playing with banner delays, and your MTA is
timing out before establishing an smtp connection?


Yep


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ time telnet dalsmlprd08.dal.dc.xo.com 25
Trying 207.88.96.46...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused

real0m0.170s


I did call their NOC who couldn't help directly (which I expected),  
but also couldn't pass me on to someone who could. 
 


Re: Returned mail: 17 Delivery failures on Tue, 06 Nov 2007

2007-11-07 Thread Justin M. Streiner


On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Trent Lloyd wrote:


Yeh I get these as well.


I know the list admins and people from Merit are looking into why this is 
happening, so we'll see what they come up with.  At this point it's 
probably not necessary for other folks to post me-toos to the list.


jms


On 07/11/2007, at 11:16 PM, Alan Spicer wrote:

* Why do we have to continue to receive this delivery failure? It must be 
going to the whole list. It's not me being rejected so why do I care? This 
seems to come at least once a day now. This seems to be something new, or 
something new causing it.



Reporting-MTA: dns; mozart.merit.edu
Arrival-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 00:00:00 -0500 (EST)
Content-Type: text/plain

Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.2.0
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.7.1 message content rejected
Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 23:59:59 -0500 (EST)
X-Suppressed-Delivery-Status-Count: 17

---
Alan Spicer

Radio Amateur (General): KA4UDX
Restricted Radiotelephone: RR00022962
General Mobile Radio Service: WQHB349
([EMAIL PROTECTED]),([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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* http://www.marinetelecom.net/
*
* 954-683-3426 Business Mobile
* 866-977-5245 Toll Free 800#
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- Original Message - From: Mail Delivery Subsystem 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 03:30
Subject: Returned mail: 17 Delivery failures on Tue, 06 Nov 2007


 On this date, there were delivery failures where the associated
 deliver status notification messages were suppressed.
 
 --- The following addresses had suppressed delivery status notifications 
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Re: Returned mail: 17 Delivery failures on Tue, 06 Nov 2007

2007-11-07 Thread Trent Lloyd


Yeh I get these as well.

Trent

On 07/11/2007, at 11:16 PM, Alan Spicer wrote:

* Why do we have to continue to receive this delivery failure? It  
must be going to the whole list. It's not me being rejected so why  
do I care? This seems to come at least once a day now. This seems to  
be something new, or something new causing it.



Reporting-MTA: dns; mozart.merit.edu
Arrival-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 00:00:00 -0500 (EST)
Content-Type: text/plain

Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.2.0
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.7.1 message content rejected
Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 23:59:59 -0500 (EST)
X-Suppressed-Delivery-Status-Count: 17

---
Alan Spicer

Radio Amateur (General): KA4UDX
Restricted Radiotelephone: RR00022962
General Mobile Radio Service: WQHB349
([EMAIL PROTECTED]),([EMAIL PROTECTED])

DBA Alan Spicer Telcom / Alan Spicer Marine Telecom
Computer Services, Wired/Wireless Networking,
Cell/Sat/Landline Communications, General Consulting...
Marine, Business, Small Office and Home Office (SOHO)

* http://www.marinetelecom.net/
*
* 954-683-3426 Business Mobile
* 866-977-5245 Toll Free 800#
* 954-977-5245 Office
* skype:alanspicertelecom

- Original Message - From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 03:30
Subject: Returned mail: 17 Delivery failures on Tue, 06 Nov 2007



On this date, there were delivery failures where the associated
deliver status notification messages were suppressed.

--- The following addresses had suppressed delivery status  
notifications ---

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Friendly XO Mail-operational contact ?

2007-11-07 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04:39:42 ~ $ telnet dalsmlprd08.dal.dc.xo.com. smtp
Trying 207.88.96.46...
Connected to dalsmlprd08.dal.dc.xo.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
[long, long delay]
220 triton.xo.com ESMTP XO Communications mail gateway. Unauthorized
access prohibited. All activities will be logged. Wed, 7 Nov 2007
06:51:09 -0600

And that box is in Sherman Oaks CA.

You sure XO hasn't been playing with banner delays, and your MTA is
timing out before establishing an smtp connection?

On Nov 7, 2007 6:09 PM, Andy Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 hi,

 Can anyone put me in touch to a friendly XO mail admin ?  For 36
 hours (at least) my mail systems have been refused connections to any
 of the XO MXes listed in 'dig mx xo.com'.

 I've asked some other UK based operators, and roughly three-quarters
 get connection refused to the example I gave them -
 dalsmlprd08.dal.dc.xo.com.

 Many thanks
 Andy



 --
 Regards, Andy Davidson   //  Engineering
 Localphone Limited http://www.localphone.com
 +44-(0)114-3191919 //  Sheffield, UK







-- 
Suresh Ramasubramanian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


Re: Friendly XO Mail-operational contact ?

2007-11-07 Thread Tim Jackson

Contact your account manager, they can get it fixed in about an hour
w/ an internal IT ticket. They were doing the same thing to us.

--
Tim

On Nov 7, 2007 6:55 AM, Andy Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 7 Nov 2007, at 12:50, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

  You sure XO hasn't been playing with banner delays, and your MTA is
  timing out before establishing an smtp connection?

 Yep


 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ time telnet dalsmlprd08.dal.dc.xo.com 25
 Trying 207.88.96.46...
 telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused

 real0m0.170s


 I did call their NOC who couldn't help directly (which I expected),
 but also couldn't pass me on to someone who could.




Re: Friendly XO Mail-operational contact ?

2007-11-07 Thread Andy Davidson



On 7 Nov 2007, at 14:01, Tim Jackson wrote:


Contact your account manager, they can get it fixed in about an hour
w/ an internal IT ticket. They were doing the same thing to us.


I don't open a business relationship with everyone that my users want  
to email. :-)




Fw: Returned mail: 17 Delivery failures on Tue, 06 Nov 2007

2007-11-07 Thread Alan Spicer
* Why do we have to continue to receive this delivery failure? It must be 
going to the whole list. It's not me being rejected so why do I care? This 
seems to come at least once a day now. This seems to be something new, or 
something new causing it.



Reporting-MTA: dns; mozart.merit.edu
Arrival-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 00:00:00 -0500 (EST)
Content-Type: text/plain

Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.2.0
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.7.1 message content rejected
Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 23:59:59 -0500 (EST)
X-Suppressed-Delivery-Status-Count: 17

---
Alan Spicer

Radio Amateur (General): KA4UDX
Restricted Radiotelephone: RR00022962
General Mobile Radio Service: WQHB349
([EMAIL PROTECTED]),([EMAIL PROTECTED])

DBA Alan Spicer Telcom / Alan Spicer Marine Telecom
Computer Services, Wired/Wireless Networking,
Cell/Sat/Landline Communications, General Consulting...
Marine, Business, Small Office and Home Office (SOHO)

* http://www.marinetelecom.net/
*
* 954-683-3426 Business Mobile
* 866-977-5245 Toll Free 800#
* 954-977-5245 Office
* skype:alanspicertelecom

- Original Message - 
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 03:30
Subject: Returned mail: 17 Delivery failures on Tue, 06 Nov 2007



On this date, there were delivery failures where the associated
deliver status notification messages were suppressed.

--- The following addresses had suppressed delivery status 
notifications ---

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Transcript of session is unavailable -








No information is available on specific messages.







No virus found in this incoming message.
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Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.20/1108 - Release Date: 11/3/2007 
9:42 PM


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Re: Getting DSL at your datacenter for OOB

2007-11-07 Thread David Ulevitch


chuck goolsbee wrote:


  I thought it would be cool to start up a little co-op in our 
building of
copper cross-connects between various providers STRICTLY for OOB network 
access. No sales involved, no revenue, strictly butt-saving OOB access. 
I was actually getting traction until one ... for lack of a better term 
party pooper... put the kibosh on the whole thing and ripped all the 
wiring out before we had finished.


Several of us thought it was a fine idea. I imagine it *could* work in 
certain buildings/environments with more enlightened facilities and 
technical people around.


I've mentioned it to EQNX and PAIX numerous times that it would be a 
value-add at the right price point.  They don't seem interested.


Most replies offlist seem to recommend just dealing with the hell that 
is the incumbent carrier ... or buying 1mbps-committed transit from 
someone willing to do it.  The problem with that is the $300+ MRC that 
places like EQNX and PAIX will charge for the ethernet XC.


Some other replies offered the you-scratch-my-back-I-scratch-yours 
solution of throwing an XC to each other in facilities like the Westin 
or the MMR at 111 8th where XC fees aren't MRCs.


-David


Re: [admin] Errors to NANOG list subscribers

2007-11-07 Thread Martin Hannigan

Folks,

A brief update.

The team at Merit has identified what is causing the mailer messages
to come back to the entire list. The admin team at Merit is working on
a solution. Please do continue to ignore the message. We'll update
again when there is a solution.

Best Regards,

Martin Hannigan
NANOG MLC Member


Re: Getting DSL at your datacenter for OOB

2007-11-07 Thread Leo Green

Try getting a hold of New Edge Networks.  I used to work for them, and
they have lots of experience setting up DSL in interesting situations,
for real technical users.  They've managed to get DSL installed in
airports, both in the non-secure as well as secure areas.  If anyone
can do it, their techs can.

http://www.newedgenetworks.com/

On Nov 7, 2007 3:12 PM, David Ulevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 NANOG,

 We've been trying to get DSL (instead of dial-up via a POTS line) at our
 datacenters for out-of-band access.

 We had a great experience doing this with Sonic.net at PAIX in Palo Alto
 but have had no success at our other sites. (Sonic.net isn't a national
 DSL provider)

 Has anyone found providers who can provision DSL circuits at: EQNX ASH,
 the MMR at 111 8th, and the Westin in Seattle?  Speakeasy, after trying
 valiantly, finally just gave up saying they just couldn't make it happen.

 Thanks,
 David Ulevitch




-- 
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 Opportunity is most often missed because it usually shows up in
overalls, looking like work.
--Mike Rowe


Re: Getting DSL at your datacenter for OOB

2007-11-07 Thread Alex Pilosov

On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, David Ulevitch wrote:

 We had a great experience doing this with Sonic.net at PAIX in Palo Alto
 but have had no success at our other sites. (Sonic.net isn't a national
 DSL provider)
 
 Has anyone found providers who can provision DSL circuits at: EQNX ASH,
 the MMR at 111 8th, and the Westin in Seattle?  Speakeasy, after trying
 valiantly, finally just gave up saying they just couldn't make it
 happen.
It's not rocket science. You order POTS line from the LEC. Then you order
DSL from your favorite shared-line DSL provider on that POTS line. 

Trying to get non-lineshared-dsl might be a challenge. 

However, I recommend POTS + DSL, for additional OOB-ness, you can plug
your DSL modem into the OOB ethernet and your analog modem into OOB serial
network.

fwiw, we are providing dsl to 111 8th MMR, the one running the free wifi
there :)


-alex [not posting as mlc anything]