Re:Survey: Peering Staffing Levels

[Dean S Moran]

Dwight,

Contact Peter Jansen, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). He is *clearly* The Man when
it comes to peering, and I'm certain that he'd be more than glad to answer
all of your questions.




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Original Message
From: Dwight Ernest[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Survey: Peering Staffing Levels
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:11:13 -0400


Please forgive the non-operational content.

I'm interested in getting some idea of the level of staffing provided by 
NSPs and ISPs in their peering departments. In fact, I've been asked by 
my management to provide as much info about such levels as possible, 
without a need to disclose the identity of any responding company.

If you have time, and wish to participate, I'd sure appreciate it. I 
will provide a summary of the responses to respondents. No identifying 
information need be provided. Get a disposable email account at Hotmail 
or Yahoo if you'd like to be really anonymous. Any question may be 
skipped if you wish. I appreciate your assistance!

DO NOT RESPOND TO THE LIST!

1. Do your peering staff members do peering negotiations and planning 
only, or do they also do peering-related hands-on router engineering?
 ___ planning and negotiation only
 ___ planning, negotiation, and hands-on router stuff
 ___ something other than these two choices:
 __

2. What is the size of your peering staff?
 ___ full-time staff members
 ___ part-time staff members

3. Do you feel this staffing level is appropriate?
 ___ too high
 ___ just right
 ___ too low

4. What is the ballpark aggregate exchange volume in megabits/second at 
peak, for your AS, or for all of the ASses for which you are responsible?
 ___ mb/s @ peak

5. What is the primary location of the majority of your peering 
department's staff members?
 ___ USA
 ___ North America other than USA
 ___ Europe
 ___ Central or Western Asia
 ___ Eastern or Southeastern Asia
 ___ Australia/NZ
 ___ South America
 ___ Africa

6. Approximately how many private or public peers does your network 
exchange traffic with?
 ___ private peers
 ___ public peers

7. What percentage volume of your network's total exchange volume is 
exchange via peering (as opposed to being exchanged via transit)?
 ___% is exchanged via peering

Again, thank you very much for your participation.

Cheers,
--Dwight Ernest



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RE: ratios

[Dean S Moran]

Chris Parker wrote:

At 01:05 PM 5/9/2002 -0400, Daniel Golding wrote:


You can publicly denounce them on a forum like this, which has doubtful
effect.

It informs other networks of the actions taken by said carrier.  Od
carrier.  Other
networks may in turn change *their* business decisions based on that
information.

Right! With the (mostly) unregulated nature of the internet as it stands
right now, sometimes this is the only recourse we have when a provider does
something stupid.  Hopefully it'll cause said provider to wake up and smell
the roses, but with CW I doubt it.  They're too egotistical to cave in to
public pressure.

Additionally, punishing folks for enforcing rational peering
requirements is counterproductive.

What's so rational about asking for 5000 routes?

Rational is a pretty subjective concept.  :)  Overly restrictive
covenants wrt housing have been struck down in the past.  One could
make an analogy to overly restrive peering agreements if one wanted
to go down that particular rat hole...

I actually hope it happens, real soon.

I guess the best thing you can do is not take peering matters personally,
and to remember that peering decisions are business decisions, and they by
personalizing them, it creates unnecessary animosity.


How can I not take it personally when this person's business decision
directly and immediately affected mine? Not to mention my quality of life,
which is still recovering.

Dean





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