RE: Hotmail/MSN postmaster contacts?
Paul,, I seem to remember Hotmail having issues with this type of mechanism.. You may want to do a search on Hotmail Violating RFCS or something to that effect to verify this. Have fun ErIc From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Weier, Paul Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:28 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Hotmail/MSN postmaster contacts? Any Hotmail/MSN/Live postmasters around? My company sends subscription-based news emails -- which go to thousands of users within Hotmail/MSN/Live. I appear to be getting blocked recently after years of success. I have read the postmaster doco at MSN. I have put SPFs for SenderID into many of my news station domains but it doesn't seem to be affecting my success at delivery over other domains which do not yet have any such configs. What am I missing to get unblacklisted? I can't seem to find any human contact info on there. Any offline contact would be greatly appreciated. Apologies for the noise. -- Paul Weier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 240/4
Wow,, that's pretty heavy.. I understand and can appreciate the passion involved with this topic. But Ladies and gentlemen, please lets keep it civil ok.. In some way, shape or form we are all in this together.. Some may be less informed then others, or perhaps a difference in opinion or point of view as understood by the individual.. Please when making sarcastic/ or opinionated comments please consider all parties involved.. It in my impression this list is used for intelligent, collaboration, not flame wars over a touchy topic.. so please try to keep that in mind. ok. I do like the facility this forum provides and would like to keep it like that, it would be a sad day when people (key resources) drop off this list due to the over-whelming feeling of being (crapped on) because of the difference of vision or opinion.. Pls. lets try and keep it safe ok.. Apologies for the off topic comments, but I truly felt it is/was necessary.. Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Wilcox Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: 240/4 On 18 Oct 2007, at 09:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, this has descended to a point where we need some fact injection. You get a D on those facts because you did not review the literature, did not attempt reasonable coverage of the problem space, and did not investigate whether or not there were other versions of the software that have been patched to support 240/4. step awy from the crack pipe... Joe's facts were excellent. I read his email and thought wow, this will kill this thread for sure why on earth would you want to go and hack this stuff together, knowing that it WILL NEVER WORK so, as using these IPs publically isnt feasible why bother privately. you may as well use RFC1918 or IPv6. the latter whilst not without issues is at least being rolled out as part of a series of standards that are 10+yrs old i am really struggling with some of the logic being given here. more specifically the omissions in that logic are glaring. not attempt to engineer a solution that will work for everybody .. not our reponsibility to fix every problem out there .. I believe that people are not that stupid. .. We do not have a good reason to deny them that possibility. .. This is easy for vendors to fix. .. It is a trivial amount of work for the IETF to release the address space .. removing the 240/4 blockages could also be considered a trivial level of effort. .. those of us who do not want or need 240/4 addresses can ignore it. .. The cost is effectively zero in the first case, .. why should anyone try and convert them to the one true Internet architecture? i think you are somewhat deluded. Steve
RE: OT: Visio or Autocad
It is my uinderstanding that we should use what really works for the individual.. Just because certain individuals OVERUSE Visio for various reasons, I feel that the usage of the best tool to fit the situation is perfectly acceptable. In the end, the printout will still look the same right?? If people want to update the diagram, I feel if you are the source of this diagram then unless you specifically delegate control to someone all revisions should come from or be made by you.. I personally think Visio is way too complex and over done.. Microsoft makes it complicated so that they can not only make money on the purchase of the license, but also rake in the $ from potentially unnecessary training due to the complexity that they have built into the nature of the application.. IE: Microsoft: lets make it so everyone could have a use for it, and lets make it so complicated that we can recover on the training aspect.. It's the Micro$oft Way, rather than fight it, just sitback and be assimiliated. Sounds like a startrek thing.. ;) Although, on the flipside, Microsoft does have it's place in the community, most of their applications seem to help increase productivity and seem to be researched and developed pretty deeply.. Bottom line is, Time and place for everything. Thanks 4 ur time and attention, all the best, e. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Herrin Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 5:11 PM To: Stephen Fulton Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: OT: Visio or Autocad On 10/10/07, Stephen Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone using Autocad for network design? What are your thoughts? Stephen, I still use Corel Draw 3 for my network diagrams, so its not unheard of to use something other than Visio. The main benefit to Visio comes when -someone else- needs to make an update to your network diagram. They probably have access to a copy of Visio and enough knowledge about using it to make a minor tweak to your diagram. The same can't be said of Autocad. Or Corel Draw. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3005 Crane Dr.Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
RE: OT: Visio or Autocad
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Herrin Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 5:11 PM To: Stephen Fulton Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: OT: Visio or Autocad On 10/10/07, Stephen Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone using Autocad for network design? What are your thoughts? Stephen, I still use Corel Draw 3 for my network diagrams, so its not unheard of to use something other than Visio. The main benefit to Visio comes when -someone else- needs to make an update to your network diagram. They probably have access to a copy of Visio and enough knowledge about using it to make a minor tweak to your diagram. The same can't be said of Autocad. Or Corel Draw. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3005 Crane Dr.Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
RE: Question on Loosely Synchronized Router Clocks
Agreed. That does seem strange.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Bush Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:11 PM To: Xin Liu Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Question on Loosely Synchronized Router Clocks Xin Liu wrote: If a router's clock is off by more than 5 minutes, it cannot forward packets this is false. i suggest you do more reading. randy
