RE: what will all you who work for private isp's be doing in a fe w years?
That's where I was going.. Residential fine.. have fun with a shared medium - but look at the offering cable companies have for their commercial clients (only can speak about NY). Monthly Fee $109.95 Downstream up to 3Mbps Upstream up to 384Kbps Monthly Fee $299.95 Downstream up to 3Mbps Upstream up to 512Kbps Monthly Fee $209.95 Downstream up to 768Kbps Upstream up to 768Kbps shawn. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Pinsky Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:30 PM To: Adam Jacob Muller Cc: Matt Bazan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what will all you who work for private isp's be doing in a few years? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Jacob Muller wrote: | | It's simple, | A DSL provider like speakeasy offers much more to a technical user like | myself than Comcast does, plus they have an incentive to keep me happy, | if i'm not i can leave and go with a competitor, comcast does, and has | on many occasions, simply told me to go f*ck myself when i have service | issues. (Sorry your modem died sir, the next we can get a tech out to | your place is 2 weeks, when i don't need a tech I know what it means | when a modem has a failure code). | | The fact is, DSL is a competitive market, Cable is not, competitive | markets keep customers happy, monopolies anger people. | And more than the technical user is the benefit to corporations and businesses that DSL providers offer. We see many companies using DSL as a cost effective replacement for backup services formerly run over dialup, ISDN, and other on-demand technologies. The AUPs, filtering policies, routing policies, etc of cable operators are simply not geared to meet the needs of even the most simplistic of corporate requirements. - -- = bep -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCgl0nE1XcgMgrtyYRAnKBAJ9kPK2/CQ9A+bqMIe4S/9oEZOEFjwCgw/bY k1AnnyyKLRIsNMZby0KBa/8= =dsjN -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Con Edison -NY
Any word on Con Edison Communication's major switch issue in NY? shawn
RE: [Insight?] OutPut Drops Cisco 7206VXR
Well, we took out the 'service-policy output map' on the FE which took the interface from WFQ to FIFO. There hasn't been an output drop in 5hrs. Thanks, shawn -Original Message- From: Gyorfy, Shawn Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:13 AM To: 'Majid Farid'; Church, Chuck; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Insight?] OutPut Drops Cisco 7206VXR The other side is an extreme summit 48 port switch. We took of Auto negotiate and hard set it to 100 Full. We swapped the Extreme, adjusted the buffers on the 7206, stopped using the FE on the board and used a card. I see a lot if discussion about FIFO and WFQ - that's the only thing we didn't do. I can't try it right now - I looked at different routers (1700s, 2600, and 3600s), and they have FIFO. buffers small permanent 420 buffers small max-free 534 buffers small min-free 79 buffers middle permanent 437 buffers middle max-free 558 buffers middle min-free 84 buffers big permanent 93 buffers big max-free 133 buffers big min-free 28 buffers verybig permanent 16 buffers verybig max-free 24 buffers verybig min-free 5 buffers large permanent 0 buffers large max-free 0 buffers large min-free 0 buffers huge permanent 0 buffers huge max-free 0 buffers huge min-free 0 -Original Message- From: Majid Farid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:09 PM To: Church, Chuck; Gyorfy, Shawn; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Insight?] OutPut Drops Cisco 7206VXR What is the other side set to? Is it FIFO or WFQ? Majid Farid ISP Specialist Telecom Ottawa Limited. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [P] 613.225.4631 ext 7220 [F] 613.225.0636 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Church, Chuck Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:18 PM To: Gyorfy, Shawn; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Insight?] OutPut Drops Cisco 7206VXR Isn't weighted fair queueing generally a bad idea on a LAN interface? Chuck Church Lead Design Engineer CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE Netco Government Services - Design Implementation Team 1210 N. Parker Rd. Greenville, SC 29609 Home office: 864-335-9473 Cell: 703-819-3495 [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x4371A48D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gyorfy, Shawn Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:49 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Insight?] OutPut Drops Cisco 7206VXR Yeah - we have traffic shaping: policy-map Outbound-Transmission-To-Core (We have 10) class Expedited-Forwarding-To-Core priority percent 50 class Hanover_13364_14025_37272-TS-To-Core shape average 1536000 192000 15000 class Queller_3266_3268_30989-TS-To-Core shape average 70 87500 15000 . . . (10) FastEthernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is DEC21140A, address is 0001.636e.1c00 (bia 0001.636e.1c00) Description: Connected to Extreme Summit48 Internet address is MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10 Kbit, DLY 100 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 12/255, rxload 3/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:21, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of show interface counters 00:37:12 Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 5397 Queueing strategy: weighted fair Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops) Conversations 0/82/256 (active/max active/max total) Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated) Available Bandwidth 25000 kilobits/sec 5 minute input rate 1505000 bits/sec, 979 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 5084000 bits/sec, 1590 packets/sec 2028319 packets input, 434456929 bytes Received 3 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored 0 watchdog 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 3453733 packets output, 1359654191 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out Serial2/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is M1T-T3+ pa Description: ny-0200 V#51HFGL605916 (DS3 to 39 Broadway POP) Internet address is MTU 4470 bytes, BW 44210 Kbit, DLY 200 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 8/255, rxload 29/255 Encapsulation PPP, LCP Open Open: CDPCP, IPCP, crc 16, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) Restart-Delay is 0 secs Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of show interface counters 00:37:49 Input queue: 1/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0 Queueing strategy: weighted fair Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops) Conversations 0/10/256 (active/max
[Insight?] OutPut Drops Cisco 7206VXR
What's up all, I have a question, maybe some have experienced this before- let me paint the picture for you first - We are running VoIP- customer's are experiencing static. I have a DS3 going for a Cisco 10k router to a Cisco 7206VXR M2T-T3+ pa Interface. As of right now, the current usage is about 5.5Mbps with an input rate of about 1425pps and output rate of 756. The Fast Ethernet is connected to an Extreme Switch. The FastE's usage right now is about 20Mbps with an input rate of 868pps and an output of 1541pps. On the FastE - we are seeing Output drops. They were at a constant interval, when we were running IOS c7200-p-mz.123-9a. As per cisco, we upgraded the IOS to c7200-p-mz.123-10 because of a possible buffer leak. Rather than just upgrading the IOS on the current box, we swapped it out to a new box and still recv output drops and Now the puppy decides to reboot every 15 minutes returning a, System returned to ROM by bus error at PC 0x60132C44, address 0xE16E2CD at 13:38:47 UTC Tue Oct 26 2004 Questions: (a) What would be causing the output errors - can't the processor and memory handle that? (b) what is that bus error? Thanks all, shawn.
RE: [Insight?] OutPut Drops Cisco 7206VXR
Yeah - we have traffic shaping: policy-map Outbound-Transmission-To-Core (We have 10) class Expedited-Forwarding-To-Core priority percent 50 class Hanover_13364_14025_37272-TS-To-Core shape average 1536000 192000 15000 class Queller_3266_3268_30989-TS-To-Core shape average 70 87500 15000 . . . (10) FastEthernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is DEC21140A, address is 0001.636e.1c00 (bia 0001.636e.1c00) Description: Connected to Extreme Summit48 Internet address is MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10 Kbit, DLY 100 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 12/255, rxload 3/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:21, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of show interface counters 00:37:12 Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 5397 Queueing strategy: weighted fair Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops) Conversations 0/82/256 (active/max active/max total) Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated) Available Bandwidth 25000 kilobits/sec 5 minute input rate 1505000 bits/sec, 979 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 5084000 bits/sec, 1590 packets/sec 2028319 packets input, 434456929 bytes Received 3 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored 0 watchdog 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 3453733 packets output, 1359654191 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out Serial2/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is M1T-T3+ pa Description: ny-0200 V#51HFGL605916 (DS3 to 39 Broadway POP) Internet address is MTU 4470 bytes, BW 44210 Kbit, DLY 200 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 8/255, rxload 29/255 Encapsulation PPP, LCP Open Open: CDPCP, IPCP, crc 16, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) Restart-Delay is 0 secs Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of show interface counters 00:37:49 Input queue: 1/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0 Queueing strategy: weighted fair Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops) Conversations 0/10/256 (active/max active/max total) Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated) Available Bandwidth 11052 kilobits/sec 5 minute input rate 5029000 bits/sec, 1584 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 1437000 bits/sec, 966 packets/sec 3460149 packets input, 1351120603 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 parity 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort 2005303 packets output, 418156501 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 applique, 0 interface resets 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out 0 carrier transitions rxLOS inactive, rxLOF inactive, rxAIS inactive txAIS inactive, rxRAI inactive, txRAI inactive -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:55 AM To: Gyorfy, Shawn Subject: Re: [Insight?] OutPut Drops Cisco 7206VXR Do you have any rate limiting on the Ethernet interface? The bus error.. I would say let cisco just replace your gear... that dosen't sound good. How is the bandwidth usage soo different? That dosen't sound right -Justin On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Gyorfy, Shawn wrote: What's up all, I have a question, maybe some have experienced this before- let me paint the picture for you first - We are running VoIP- customer's are experiencing static. I have a DS3 going for a Cisco 10k router to a Cisco 7206VXR M2T-T3+ pa Interface. As of right now, the current usage is about 5.5Mbps with an input rate of about 1425pps and output rate of 756. The Fast Ethernet is connected to an Extreme Switch. The FastE's usage right now is about 20Mbps with an input rate of 868pps and an output of 1541pps. On the FastE - we are seeing Output drops. They were at a constant interval, when we were running IOS c7200-p-mz.123-9a. As per cisco, we upgraded the IOS to c7200-p-mz.123-10 because of a possible buffer leak. Rather than just upgrading the IOS on the current box, we swapped it out to a new box and still recv output drops and Now the puppy decides to reboot every 15 minutes returning a, System returned to ROM by bus error at PC 0x60132C44, address 0xE16E2CD at 13:38:47 UTC Tue Oct 26 2004 Questions: (a) What would be causing the output errors - can't the processor and memory handle that? (b) what is that bus error? Thanks all, shawn.
Exodus Contact
Please can someone that deals with routing issues at Exodus.net contact me off the list, or if anyone knows of a good contact at Exodus.net please contact me off the list. Thanks in advance. Shawn.
