RE: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request

2006-08-17 Thread Robert J. Hantson

I have to agree...  I joined this list a few weeks ago, and am pretty
sad at the garbage I have to sift through.  It's more of a FLAME Thrower
if you ask me.

I'm giving it another few days, and I'm off to looking for other lists
that are much more useful than this deal here.

Robert Hantson
CTO/CIO - Network Operations
QBOS, Inc.
Dallas, TX

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Richard A Steenbergen
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:15 PM
To: Gadi Evron
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: i am not a list moderator, but i do have a request


On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:48:01PM -0500, Gadi Evron wrote:
 
 Paul, apparently, we are in disagreement! :)
 
 Botnets are an operational issue affecting most of every large carrier
to
 momspops service provider here.
 
 I believe a lot of the information about botnets, which is not that
 complex, is behind held in secret for no reason, and I release it when
 possible.
...
 This is probably one of the more active and interesting discussions in
the
 past year which are ON-TOPIC.

If this is all we have to talk about and it is on-topic, then NANOG has 
failed, and we need a new list where people can actually discuss network

operations.

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RE: SORBS Contact

2006-08-09 Thread Robert J. Hantson

So with all this talk of Blacklists...  does anyone have any suggestions
that would be helpful to curb the onslaught of email, without being an
adminidictator?

Right now, the ONLY list we are using is that which is provided through
spamcop. They seem to have a list that is dynamic and only blacklists
during periods of high reports, then takes them off the list after a
short time...

Or am I just a little naive?

Robert Hantson
Network Operations Director
QBOS, Inc - Dallas Texas
www.qbos.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Christopher L. Morrow
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:19 PM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: SORBS Contact




On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Allan Poindexter wrote:
 moanings of the hand wringers.  In the meantime my patience with email
 lost silently due to blacklists, etc. is growing thin.

don't let some third party you have no relation to determine the 'fate'
of
your email/messages? with all blacklists you run the same risk, someone
else now controls the fate of your 'service'. Unless you have some very
large hammer to beat them with it's going to cause you pain eventually,
when they decide that ${PROVIDER} is 'gone black' or whatever they call
it
these days... or they just fat finger some entry.

-Chris