RE: $50,000 reward for Verizon cable cutter
Maybe a current Verizon employee looking for extra OT... Chuck Church Lead Design Engineer CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE Netco Government Services - Design & Implementation Team 1210 N. Parker Rd. Greenville, SC 29609 Home office: 864-335-9473 Cell: 703-819-3495 [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x4371A48D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Brady Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 10:32 PM To: Hannigan, Martin Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: $50,000 reward for Verizon cable cutter Your not giving customers enough credit, your a customer yourself arn't you? Do you know how to cut those cables? Would anyone else on the list who isn't a disgruntled verizon employee? On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:26:04 -0500, Hannigan, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Disgruntled customers don't know how to cut X hundred pair cables. > > --- > Martin Hannigan > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verisign, Inc. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: nanog@merit.edu > Sent: Fri Jan 14 19:10:35 2005 > Subject: Re: $50,000 reward for Verizon cable cutter > > Sean Donelan wrote: > > >Verizon is offering a $50,000 reward for information about several > >acts of cut cables in the last couple of months. At least three lines > >were cut in the last week. > > > >http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/01/13/veri zon_ > seeking_information_about_cable_cutter/ > > > > > > > With a power saw? Goodness, that sounds noisy in the middle of the > night. I'd have thought a low tech ax would do the job. :-) > > Probably a disgruntled customer, with cable bundles that repair says > were supposed to be replaced 12 years ago, but engineering says isn't > in the budget (like my SBC/Ameritech neighborhood in Ann Arbor). > > Sigh, not enough criminal instinct here. > > -- > William Allen Simpson > Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32 > -- Joshua Brady
Re: $50,000 reward for Verizon cable cutter
Hannigan, Martin wrote: Nate, customers are not OSP savvy. The ones that could be would be like you, me, and vin. Those are few and between. Yeah, we are an odd bunch. I've found that my friends and others think of it as magic. And find it wierd that I'm always looking up into the air, especially at intersections or while riding along as a passenger, commenting on things. Why doesn't everybody _look_ around? Though, it does rub off and do some good. This past political season one of the telecomm managers was still marvelling about a fundraiser we attended a couple of year ago: "Amazing, she knew what a CLEC was!" -- William Allen Simpson Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32
Re: $50,000 reward for Verizon cable cutter
Nate, customers are not OSP savvy. The ones that could be would be like you, me, and vin. Those are few and between. If I were DHS/FBI/SS? Employee or ex employee involvement. Circa 98 possibly. It is familiar for Boston area transmission. -M --- Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Verisign, Inc. -Original Message- From: Nathan Allen Stratton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Hannigan, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; nanog@merit.edu Sent: Fri Jan 14 19:58:04 2005 Subject: Re: $50,000 reward for Verizon cable cutter On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Hannigan, Martin wrote: > I know how to cut those cables from experience. A customer isn't showing up > with a battery powered Makita to do it. And they don't know where to cut to > do max damage. If they were cutting SLC splice boxes, sure. Not this. IMHO. > These cuts indicate knowledge. I may be wrong. @shrug@ You have not talked to enough ISPs who have been killed by the ILECs. They know what to do... I am not defending them in any way, it is wrong, but they have a lot of customers who have clue to get back at them if they are ticked off. -Nathan
Re: $50,000 reward for Verizon cable cutter
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Hannigan, Martin wrote: > I know how to cut those cables from experience. A customer isn't showing up > with a battery powered Makita to do it. And they don't know where to cut to > do max damage. If they were cutting SLC splice boxes, sure. Not this. IMHO. > These cuts indicate knowledge. I may be wrong. @shrug@ You have not talked to enough ISPs who have been killed by the ILECs. They know what to do... I am not defending them in any way, it is wrong, but they have a lot of customers who have clue to get back at them if they are ticked off. -Nathan
Re: $50,000 reward for Verizon cable cutter
I know how to cut those cables from experience. A customer isn't showing up with a battery powered Makita to do it. And they don't know where to cut to do max damage. If they were cutting SLC splice boxes, sure. Not this. IMHO. These cuts indicate knowledge. I may be wrong. @shrug@ -M --- Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Verisign, Inc. -Original Message- From: Joshua Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Hannigan, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; nanog@merit.edu Sent: Fri Jan 14 19:31:30 2005 Subject: Re: $50,000 reward for Verizon cable cutter Your not giving customers enough credit, your a customer yourself arn't you? Do you know how to cut those cables? Would anyone else on the list who isn't a disgruntled verizon employee? On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:26:04 -0500, Hannigan, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Disgruntled customers don't know how to cut X hundred pair cables. > > --- > Martin Hannigan > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verisign, Inc. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: nanog@merit.edu > Sent: Fri Jan 14 19:10:35 2005 > Subject: Re: $50,000 reward for Verizon cable cutter > > Sean Donelan wrote: > > >Verizon is offering a $50,000 reward for information about several > >acts of cut cables in the last couple of months. At least three lines > >were cut in the last week. > > > >http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/01/13/verizon_ > seeking_information_about_cable_cutter/ > > > > > > > With a power saw? Goodness, that sounds noisy in the middle of the > night. I'd have thought a low tech ax would do the job. :-) > > Probably a disgruntled customer, with cable bundles that repair says > were supposed to be replaced 12 years ago, but engineering says isn't > in the budget (like my SBC/Ameritech neighborhood in Ann Arbor). > > Sigh, not enough criminal instinct here. > > -- > William Allen Simpson > Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32 > -- Joshua Brady
Re: $50,000 reward for Verizon cable cutter
Your not giving customers enough credit, your a customer yourself arn't you? Do you know how to cut those cables? Would anyone else on the list who isn't a disgruntled verizon employee? On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:26:04 -0500, Hannigan, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Disgruntled customers don't know how to cut X hundred pair cables. > > --- > Martin Hannigan > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verisign, Inc. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: nanog@merit.edu > Sent: Fri Jan 14 19:10:35 2005 > Subject: Re: $50,000 reward for Verizon cable cutter > > Sean Donelan wrote: > > >Verizon is offering a $50,000 reward for information about several > >acts of cut cables in the last couple of months. At least three lines > >were cut in the last week. > > > >http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/01/13/verizon_ > seeking_information_about_cable_cutter/ > > > > > > > With a power saw? Goodness, that sounds noisy in the middle of the > night. I'd have thought a low tech ax would do the job. :-) > > Probably a disgruntled customer, with cable bundles that repair says > were supposed to be replaced 12 years ago, but engineering says isn't > in the budget (like my SBC/Ameritech neighborhood in Ann Arbor). > > Sigh, not enough criminal instinct here. > > -- > William Allen Simpson > Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32 > -- Joshua Brady
Re: $50,000 reward for Verizon cable cutter
Disgruntled customers don't know how to cut X hundred pair cables. --- Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Verisign, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: nanog@merit.edu Sent: Fri Jan 14 19:10:35 2005 Subject: Re: $50,000 reward for Verizon cable cutter Sean Donelan wrote: >Verizon is offering a $50,000 reward for information about several >acts of cut cables in the last couple of months. At least three lines >were cut in the last week. > >http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/01/13/verizon_ seeking_information_about_cable_cutter/ > > > With a power saw? Goodness, that sounds noisy in the middle of the night. I'd have thought a low tech ax would do the job. :-) Probably a disgruntled customer, with cable bundles that repair says were supposed to be replaced 12 years ago, but engineering says isn't in the budget (like my SBC/Ameritech neighborhood in Ann Arbor). Sigh, not enough criminal instinct here. -- William Allen Simpson Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32
Re: $50,000 reward for Verizon cable cutter
Sean Donelan wrote: Verizon is offering a $50,000 reward for information about several acts of cut cables in the last couple of months. At least three lines were cut in the last week. http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/01/13/verizon_seeking_information_about_cable_cutter/ With a power saw? Goodness, that sounds noisy in the middle of the night. I'd have thought a low tech ax would do the job. :-) Probably a disgruntled customer, with cable bundles that repair says were supposed to be replaced 12 years ago, but engineering says isn't in the budget (like my SBC/Ameritech neighborhood in Ann Arbor). Sigh, not enough criminal instinct here. -- William Allen Simpson Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32
$50,000 reward for Verizon cable cutter
Verizon is offering a $50,000 reward for information about several acts of cut cables in the last couple of months. At least three lines were cut in the last week. http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/01/13/verizon_seeking_information_about_cable_cutter/
