RE: Firewall opinions wanted please - clarification

2004-03-16 Thread Nicole


 As much as I hate to follow up my own post, I suppose I was a bit too vauge
for my own good =]

 We do not run any cisco gear and we are in a Class A data facility.
 
 By proxy I did not mean to imply NAT. I cannot remember the proper term but
what I mean is full packet handeling as opposed to packet inspection. 

 Security is important but the budget limit is only up to about 3K. I have been
trying to get the client a firewall for some time and am just now getting the
go ahead.  



 Sorry for any vaugeness but I usually like to not say to much as to sway
opinions one way or another and to learn more as any knowlege I have may be
wrong or out of date.



  Nicole



On 16-Mar-04 Unnamed Administration sources reported Nicole said :
> 
> 
> 
>  Hi
>  I am looking for a good but reasonably priced firewall for a 40 or so server
>  site. Some people swear by Pix, others swear at it a lot. Also I have heard
> good things about Netscreen. Or any others you would recommend for protecting
> servers on a busy network. Don't really need anything with VPN just the
> standard http, ftp, ssh, https, type traffic up to 100mb throughput.
>  From what I have heard a proxy firewall would be best? 
> 
>  
> 
>  Thanks in advance!!
> 
> 
>   Nicole
> 
>
 




Re: Firewall opinions wanted please - clarification

2004-03-16 Thread Brandon Shiers
Sonicwall makes a great product that can run in STANDARD (Proxy) mode. 

Their prices are pretty good as well, espicially if you buy them 
through a reseller.  We deploy many of these firewalls every year and 
they are great!

Thanks,

Brandon
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:07:26 -0800 (PST)
 Nicole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 As much as I hate to follow up my own post, I suppose I was a bit 
too vauge
for my own good =]

 We do not run any cisco gear and we are in a Class A data facility.
 
 By proxy I did not mean to imply NAT. I cannot remember the proper 
term but
what I mean is full packet handeling as opposed to packet 
inspection. 

 Security is important but the budget limit is only up to about 3K. 
I have been
trying to get the client a firewall for some time and am just now 
getting the
go ahead.  



 Sorry for any vaugeness but I usually like to not say to much as to 
sway
opinions one way or another and to learn more as any knowlege I have 
may be
wrong or out of date.



  Nicole



On 16-Mar-04 Unnamed Administration sources reported Nicole said :
> 
> 
> 
>  Hi
>  I am looking for a good but reasonably priced firewall for a 40 or 
>so server
>  site. Some people swear by Pix, others swear at it a lot. Also I 
>have heard
> good things about Netscreen. Or any others you would recommend for 
>protecting
> servers on a busy network. Don't really need anything with VPN just 
>the
> standard http, ftp, ssh, https, type traffic up to 100mb 
>throughput.
>  From what I have heard a proxy firewall would be best? 
> 
>  
> 
>  Thanks in advance!!
> 
> 
>   Nicole
> 
>
 





Re: Firewall opinions wanted please - clarification

2004-03-16 Thread Alexei Roudnev

You mean _PROTOCL HANDELING_, I believe.

I do not know, why people are paying so much attention to it.  Important
questions are:

- which services are you providing for the public?
- who will handle all your SSL sessions, if any (may be, Load Balancers?
Then you do not bother about FW proxy for them);
- who will handle all http requests (yes, proxy can help here, but it is not
the only way);
- who will inspect mail content (not SMTP protocol, but attachments etc)?
- who will handle your ssh sessions, if you have inbound shh?
- who will handle your inbound VPN or PPTP, if you use it?
- are DDOS attacks dangerous for you (you host SCO, for example) or not (you
provide specific servic for 100 companies, not for wide public);
- do you use host level IDS / change control?

PIX is excellent firewall... for many purposes, but not for others (and not
as a proxy, of course). It is impossible to select anything without knowing
answers on this questions...

AlexeiRoudnev



> >  As much as I hate to follow up my own post, I suppose I was a bit
> > too vauge
> > for my own good =]
> >
> >  We do not run any cisco gear and we are in a Class A data facility.
> >
> >  By proxy I did not mean to imply NAT. I cannot remember the proper
> > term but
> > what I mean is full packet handeling as opposed to packet
> > inspection.
> >
> >  Security is important but the budget limit is only up to about 3K.
> > I have been
> > trying to get the client a firewall for some time and am just now
> > getting the
> > go ahead.
> >
> >
> >
> >  Sorry for any vaugeness but I usually like to not say to much as to
> > sway
> > opinions one way or another and to learn more as any knowlege I have
> > may be
> > wrong or out of date.
> >
> >
> >
> >   Nicole
> >
> >
> >
> > On 16-Mar-04 Unnamed Administration sources reported Nicole said :
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Hi
> > >  I am looking for a good but reasonably priced firewall for a 40 or
> > >so server
> > >  site. Some people swear by Pix, others swear at it a lot. Also I
> > >have heard
> > > good things about Netscreen. Or any others you would recommend for
> > >protecting
> > > servers on a busy network. Don't really need anything with VPN just
> > >the
> > > standard http, ftp, ssh, https, type traffic up to 100mb
> > >throughput.
> > >  From what I have heard a proxy firewall would be best?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Thanks in advance!!
> > >
> > >
> > >   Nicole
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>



Re: Firewall opinions wanted please - clarification

2004-03-16 Thread Richard Cox

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 17:18:38 -0700
"Brandon Shiers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sonicwall makes a great product that can run in STANDARD (Proxy) mode.

As with any product, it's only as good as the support channel behind it
*in your locality* ... we have just removed Sonicwall from the list of
approved suppliers here because of a series of failures that left two
parts of our network unprotected for several weeks (and, if any other
Firewall vendors with _good_  European support are reading this thread,
you're welcome to contact us by mail if you feel you can do better than
Sonicwall's local representatives did ;-) )

-- 
Richard Cox



Re: [NANOG-LIST] RE: Firewall opinions wanted please - clarification

2004-03-16 Thread Brent Van Dussen
Another important question is who is going to be managing the firewall once 
it gets purchased and installed?  Buying a PIX is great but not if you 
don't have anyone that knows how to use it.  This applies to any vendors 
solution be it Checkpoint, IPTables, PIX, netscreen, etc..

Also by proxy do you mean statefull packet inspection?

-Brent



At 03:07 PM 3/16/2004, Nicole wrote:


 As much as I hate to follow up my own post, I suppose I was a bit too vauge
for my own good =]
 We do not run any cisco gear and we are in a Class A data facility.

 By proxy I did not mean to imply NAT. I cannot remember the proper term but
what I mean is full packet handeling as opposed to packet inspection.
 Security is important but the budget limit is only up to about 3K. I 
have been
trying to get the client a firewall for some time and am just now getting the
go ahead.



 Sorry for any vaugeness but I usually like to not say to much as to sway
opinions one way or another and to learn more as any knowlege I have may be
wrong or out of date.


  Nicole



On 16-Mar-04 Unnamed Administration sources reported Nicole said :
>
>
>
>  Hi
>  I am looking for a good but reasonably priced firewall for a 40 or so 
server
>  site. Some people swear by Pix, others swear at it a lot. Also I have 
heard
> good things about Netscreen. Or any others you would recommend for 
protecting
> servers on a busy network. Don't really need anything with VPN just the
> standard http, ftp, ssh, https, type traffic up to 100mb throughput.
>  From what I have heard a proxy firewall would be best?
>
>
>
>  Thanks in advance!!
>
>
>   Nicole
>
>