GSM Association and NeuStar Sign Agreement to Offer Root DNS Services
It can be of operational interest or it can fuel a new flame about alternative DNS roots. http://www.neustar.com/pressroom/files/announcements/ns_pr_09282005.pdf GSM Association and NeuStar Sign Agreement to Offer Root DNS Services to More than 680 Global GSM Mobile Operators ... NeuStar's Root DNS service will serve two functions: first, to register domain names under the suffixes gprs and 3gppnetwork.org, which are used to register private domain names that allow operators to retrieve routing information when a subscriber accesses data and multimedia services on a roaming or home network. For example, a U.S. mobile subscriber traveling on business in Singapore will be able to access a video or audio file using their mobile device while roaming on a local GSM network. Additionally, NeuStar will operate the master DNS root server and provide updates to GRX (GPRS Roaming Exchange) and MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service) providers, allowing mobile operators to access updated DNS routing information. ...
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different meaning of 'root server'. pretty surely written by a droid. randy
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Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: It can be of operational interest or it can fuel a new flame about alternative DNS roots. Another flame fest? Possibly, but only if caused by lack of understanding where the Neustar DNS root will be living. This DNS structure for GPRS roaming lives in its own separate universe. As GSM in general does. :) GPRS providers do (usually) offer a connected mobile handset the possibility to connect to TheInternetAtLarge -- no flames about walled gardens, please :) . For Internet access the mobile will query what you might call 'DNS-proper' ; i.e. the mobile's domain namespace is in the real Internet. The services provided by Neustar will live in the non-public IP space that connects the GPRS (and IMS, and MMS) infrastructure, which is separate from the end-user (mobile device) IP space. Cheers, Romeo http://www.neustar.com/pressroom/files/announcements/ns_pr_09282005.pdf GSM Association and NeuStar Sign Agreement to Offer Root DNS Services to More than 680 Global GSM Mobile Operators ... NeuStar's Root DNS service will serve two functions: first, to register domain names under the suffixes gprs and 3gppnetwork.org, which are used to register private domain names that allow operators to retrieve routing information when a subscriber accesses data and multimedia services on a roaming or home network. For example, a U.S. mobile subscriber traveling on business in Singapore will be able to access a video or audio file using their mobile device while roaming on a local GSM network. Additionally, NeuStar will operate the master DNS root server and provide updates to GRX (GPRS Roaming Exchange) and MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service) providers, allowing mobile operators to access updated DNS routing information. ...
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On 30/09/05, Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It can be of operational interest or it can fuel a new flame about alternative DNS roots. http://www.neustar.com/pressroom/files/announcements/ns_pr_09282005.pdf It is not a public root and it is not available over the internet either A closed service available solely over the gprs network I guess gprs phones will query real dns to access real internet resources --srs -- Suresh Ramasubramanian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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It is not a public root and it is not available over the internet either A closed service available solely over the gprs network Until the users want to access the same stuff from their PC and they petition for it to be in the public root too To the public if it looks like internet they expect it to work like internet brandon
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It is not a public root and it is not available over the internet either A closed service available solely over the gprs network * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brandon Butterworth) [Fri 30 Sep 2005, 12:55 CEST]: Until the users want to access the same stuff from their PC and they petition for it to be in the public root too To the public if it looks like internet they expect it to work like internet You are misunderstanding. The data in .gprs is used by infrastructure in the GSM networks to decide where a user's home station is. End users have no way of interacting with this infrastructure (beyond turning on their phones outside their home country). When a user surfs the internet from their handheld device they get the real Internet, not some walled garden that has .gprs. -- Niels.
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You are misunderstanding. I'm extrapolating, things rarely stay restricted to the original use they existed for. At some point I expect they'll put something on it that users become aware of and think it'd be much more convenient if we could use the same on the internet The data in .gprs is used by infrastructure in the GSM networks to decide where a user's home station is. If they restrict it to internal use then it's non news, anyone can make up stuff with risk of later collision, and isn't on topic here. brandon
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Management of Naming, Addressing, and the related directory service (DNS) is properly part of Network Operations. Thus, on topic for NANOG. At 9/30/2005 01:43 PM +0100, Brandon Butterworth wrote: snip/ If they restrict it to internal use then it's non news, anyone can make up stuff with risk of later collision, and isn't on topic here. brandon - James R. Cutler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 02:33:13PM +0200, Niels Bakker wrote: Hi, To the public if it looks like internet they expect it to work like internet You are misunderstanding. The data in .gprs is used by infrastructure in the GSM networks to decide where a user's home station is. End users have no way of interacting with this infrastructure (beyond turning on their phones outside their home country). He has a point. Remember Het Net* as it was before they proxiet to the real internet. Users expected the internet and after a while, they got it. -- Sabri please do not throw salami pizza away * Het Net, translated as The Net was an attempt by the dutch national telco in the late 90's to come up with a big intranet where users could dialup, using RFC1918 addresses and visit community and commercial sites. After a few months, proxy-support to the real internet was added and even later it was integrated into Planet.nl, a dutch dsl-isp.
